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hotsamantha4fun
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Locked. No further comments permitted.A degree isn't everything, but it's never nothing.
Feb 24 2017 05:47PM more by hotsamantha4fun
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Thanks for the quote, Socaliam.

What do you all think? Is education overrated? Underrated?

I know it's DEFINITELY too expensive.

~S
      
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RicRulez
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Feb 24 2017 07:36PM     link to this

Just my opinion, getting a degree to me is one of the biggest scams people believe in. It's just a piece of paper that doesn't guarantee success. Most people go to school to get a college degree to get a good job and they basically sell their souls working for the rest of their lives. The person at the very top make a profit from the efforts from the people at the bottom. Most employee help build other people's dreams rather than building their own dream. Many people try to climb up the corporate ladder rather than owning the ladder. And most people life their lives working rather than working to life. Even if someone loves their job, I bet they won't be saying "I wish I spend more time at my job" because I know they will be saying "I wish I spend more time enjoying life".

That is why entrepreneurs don't work for anybody and we don't pursue a piece of paper!!!
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Feb 24 2017 07:41PM     link to this

You are still going to work for a paycheck even if it's the 3rd or 5th degree. Have money work for you rather than work for money!
hotsamantha4fun
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Feb 24 2017 07:51PM     link to this

What if your degree is in something economically practical like business or finance?
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Feb 24 2017 07:59PM     link to this

Entrepreneurs don't go to school to learn from professors that have never created success. It's like someone trying to learn how to lose weight and they go out and pay a fat personal to teach them how to do it. Instead, what we do is go find a mentor who has actually done it. Why spend thousands of dollars on a business and economics degree when you are still going to learn how to work for somebody else's dream??? Plus it's very expensive
RicRulez
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Feb 24 2017 08:11PM     link to this

The smart thing would be to make your job a temporary thing and use your job to help fund your business until you can replace your job. The biggest mistake people do is they only build a business and their business owns them (like another jo.

Plus, the government loves taxing employees which is something school will never teach you. But you can have incentives as an entrepreneur because you are helping the economy.
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Feb 24 2017 08:21PM     link to this

I have a bachelors and a masters... I am proud of them. I paid for them myself, worked hard and learned a lot... and my career has benefitted from it. I put in the time and effort, and I am glad I did with no regrets.

My son is definitely going to college....

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Feb 24 2017 08:36PM     link to this

SoCalSpidey... listen to Blue.Diamond.

What do you keep after working for your company for 30 years? Nothing! You can get a pension plan or a 401K that is limited and when it runs out, you must go back to work at a very old age (especially if inflation goes up). That being said, if you want to make more money, you must go back and sacrifice part of your life to make more. There is only 24 hours in a day and what you use that time for is very valuable.

What do you keep when you build a business after 30 years? Everything! And you can pass it over to your son (where a job you cannot pass on). Build a future for yourself and for your family not your boss' family.
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Feb 24 2017 08:47PM     link to this

^^I said nothing about what I do for my career,who I work for or if I own my own business.... I have no idea what the heck you are talking about...

My comment was specific to the benefits that I got from education.

Goodness, maybe you need some education...


😅
artnjazz
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Feb 24 2017 08:49PM     link to this

If you don't have a degree, we will never agree.

^^^
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artnjazz
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Feb 24 2017 08:56PM     link to this

If you hate, you can't relate.
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Feb 24 2017 10:23PM     link to this

The key to success is knowing that you do not know it all.

The key is success is knowing to surround yourself with people who know more than you.

The key to success is knowing that you need to own the pie.

The key to success is making sure you throw some crumbs in the direction of people that know more than you who currently surround you.
hotsamantha4fun
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Feb 24 2017 10:24PM     link to this

"Looks fade."

Speak for yourself. I plan to be beautiful forever!
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Feb 25 2017 06:53AM     link to this

So now people are defining success?

Each person must define that for themselves.... One person's success is another person's failure...

That is pointless to try to judge...

Just sayin....
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Feb 25 2017 07:48AM     link to this

All of degree is nice I tell my clients that they go to college to net work. It's the part of getting to know who you know. It is meeting people they can give you references and recommendations. But it's also a sense of personal accomplishment and it shows that you are able to attain and meet deadlines and goals. Well my family members are all making more money than I am I have that master's degree that they don't have. I've never used it because that's not where I wanted to go with my career but it was a promise to someone who is very dear to me and it was a promise to myself


+ Hi PK 😀
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Feb 25 2017 08:41AM     link to this

I believe in a degree. It's something nobody can take away from you, a commitment and accomplishment that you can be proud of. it's not that easy to get a degree. On the other hand I also believe in luck, being in the right place at the right time. Take me for example...my degree is in something that is totally unrelated to what I actually do, and the thing is I actually enjoy doing what I do almost as much as I enjoyed the sciences during college. I get paid enough to own my own home and 2 cars without any outside assistance from family or inheritance. And the kicker???...I wasnt even originally qualified to do the original position and now I'm at the respective top at my corporation...hence luck.
In my field of work I see they will take experience in lieu of education, but it's usually quite a few more years of work experience that they would accept instead of a 4-yr degree.
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Feb 25 2017 08:42AM     link to this

And I haven't seen anyone comment on DTB...I think he's being facetious about the 3th degree and means the 3rd degree
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Feb 25 2017 08:46AM     link to this

Most of the comments here seem oriented to the career value of a college degree.

But there's another whole aspect of the value of a broad, general college-degree level education that benefits you all of your life. It adds to your fund of knowledge, it opens your mind to new concepts that take discipline and focus to master, and trains you in a habit of application of your talents and energy toward a goal.

It introduces you to people who will likely be your friend for the remainder of your life. It exposes you to works of others that entertains and occupies your imagination for a lifetime.

And, if you happen to have been an ADHD squirmer and under-achiever in the school you attended before college, and knowing that many people's frontal cortex won't fully mature until their 20's, particularly those of young men, graduating from college can be a refreshing reassurance and confidence-builder to those young brains and teaches them that they're smart enough, focused enough, and skilled enough to be successful at whatever endeavor to which they apply themselves.
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Feb 25 2017 08:47AM     link to this

We all know people with a college degree who aren't doing shit and people who didn't step foot on a college campus who are very successful and vice versa. It's more about the individual's drive and ambition that determines success and more importantly happiness. Some folks are happy with working for a decent salary, investing and saving for retirement, nothing wrong with that, more security than being an entrepreneur. I know lots of business owners who lost a lot in '08, some were able to recover but some did not and had to start over but most of my friends working in corporate America kept their jobs. At the end of the day, decide what's important to you, not what others tell you is the right path.
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Feb 25 2017 10:07AM     link to this

tldr: College give you skills vital for starting and operating your own business, as well as being a wage slave.

I am very pro-college and education.. We can point to a lot of exceptions but, generally, it makes people better researchers, writers, communicators, and thinkers both creative and analytical. When an employee comes out of a humanities program at a good research university, I can usually be assured they can write in a way that won't make clients say "what?", and very importantly, they can research, think and figure things out and problem solve as opposed to hitting a roadblock and saying "Computer says, 'no'". That trait, along with the communication aspect is really invaluable if you're trying to start or run your own business. I really wish we as a society still valued getting a well rounded education, rather than letting short term economics rule everything. But in our culture, economics in general, especially short term, kind of does rule everything. So there is a strong issue of whether a degree is worth it sometimes given the potential cost. I was lucky and went to a great public school when, in retrospect, it was very affordable compared to now. It's tough as hell now. But keep in mind, many graduate programs (not in the professional schools, Medical, Law, etc., but many others) are well funded and tuition is waived if you're a top student and teach or do research. It's competitive though.
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Feb 25 2017 11:44AM     link to this

Like everything in life you get out of it what you put into it. Nonsense classes leading to a nonsense degree is worthless.

Look to the future; people are being replaced by robots; if you're not building the robot you better have a career that requires a person or you'll be out of work soon.

Look into a trade school; for instance become a dental assistant then work you way up to a dental hygienist which makes upwards of $100,000 or BMW school at graduation you have a job work you way up to a master mechanic and make $100,000. You can go to community college to become an ambulance driver, then take classes to become a paramedic and so on without a degree.

In short, just having a degree doesn't guarantee you a job anymore, don't go to school just to go to school.

Just do it, go to your local community college take one class see if you like it then go from there.
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