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Mar 16 2017 03:36AM more by InsearchofStarfish
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its good to see some of this stuff...means there could be some hope it can get under control.

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The cost for two EpiPens ranges from less than $100 in France to just over $200 in Germany. In New York City, a two-pack retails for $615 to $650, according to prescription drug-price tracker GoodRx. The product cost only $57 a shot when Mylan took over sales in 2007.Sep 28, 2016


they say the drug itself cost a buck...but other countries pay much less which is case for most drugs

get ready to short some drug companies
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CUMAlot
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Mar 16 2017 09:25AM     link to this

The price disparity for med is old news. The question is what is happening or going to happen to diminish the price disparity? I'll short the phamarcutical industry then.
InsearchofStarfish
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Mar 16 2017 12:59PM     link to this

i am sure that was one of many many examples

about 25 years ago remember having a surgery and they had to shave the pub area...i saw the bill a month or so later paid by insurance...it was basically an angiogram test for my finger circulation...total bill 27k. i was out of there in 3-4 hrs time.

itemized bill 55 bucks for disposable shaver....probably cost them a buck.

i also understand that some people don't pay and have to bill the shit out of people that can pay, but there is some fat to trim around easily. medicaid could help on the ones that can't pay.

medicare seems to have decent controlled cost structure for service...they pay hospital and doctors for prescribed price for various services....they can expand this for the people over 55 younger than 65...just make them pay the going rate.

InsearchofStarfish
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Mar 16 2017 01:00PM     link to this

i am ok with other repubs holding their feet to the fire...they have one chance to get this mostly right....nothing is perfect so that won't happen.

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Mar 16 2017 01:05PM     link to this

If the media spent only 25% of the time they currently spend running around bashing Trump and looked at drug cost abuse, medical over treatment, excessive billings, medicare fraud, etc. we would probably solve all our health care issues in this country.

But the media is lazy and biased and just can't comprehend that Trump got elected.

Message to media....get off your asses and help solve some of our health care problems with investigative reporting....
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Mar 16 2017 01:07PM     link to this

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jazz51
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Mar 16 2017 01:10PM     link to this

DR....investigative journalism is dead in this country. They used to dig into issues, identify problems, and bring to light the concern. They do nothing now....no research, no exploration of the REAL issues facing our country.

It is a well known that there is abuse in the health care delivery system.....but no one wants to address it. Trump at least has said we need to get to the bottom of the drug company charges.
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Mar 16 2017 01:11PM     link to this

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MUNK
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Mar 16 2017 01:12PM     link to this

I see that ^^
DelilahRose
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Mar 16 2017 01:14PM     link to this

Jazz ur comment means Nada u sound like Sean spicer
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Mar 16 2017 01:16PM     link to this

DR....list some meaningful journalism that has brought national attention to any health care issue OTHER than pissing and moaning about Trump.
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Mar 16 2017 01:17PM     link to this

Also, DR....how much did YOU pay in taxes last year.....????????????????????
InsearchofStarfish
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Mar 16 2017 01:20PM     link to this

trump is an asshole...but if anyone can help get this fixed..its him. obama had a chance and it was bad.

the thing i heard was this three stage process will never pass at the third stage where they need 60 votes....that is where the best stuff of the whole plan is to get costs down.



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Mar 16 2017 01:39PM     link to this

I'm still right !!
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Mar 16 2017 01:47PM     link to this

When I had to have my left nut removed all I paid was $100 insurance paid for everything including the prosthetic

@ all of you who bitch about paying for coverage


@ RIP lefty gone but not forgotten
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Mar 16 2017 01:47PM     link to this

Hey jazz I had to pay 1000 penalty for not having Aca. Don't assume u know a thing.
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Mar 16 2017 01:49PM     link to this

Thanks kellyann^
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Mar 16 2017 01:51PM     link to this

its Cunt to you faggot
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Mar 16 2017 01:54PM     link to this

You're welcome
DelilahRose
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Mar 16 2017 01:56PM     link to this

When did I say the aca was great?
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Mar 16 2017 01:57PM     link to this

Of course, like all good liberals...you didn't answer my question...I didn't ask about the ACA penalty....I asked about taxes.....and I highly doubt you actually paid taxes on this 'cash business'
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Mar 16 2017 01:58PM     link to this

And what annoys me is the fools budget cuts, so he can increase his defense spending. Which I agree we need however not at the expense of meals on wheels, arts programs, pbs,. That shit bugs me
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Mar 16 2017 02:00PM     link to this

Oh it's unheard of to work here and elsewhere?
InsearchofStarfish
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Mar 16 2017 02:02PM     link to this

i understand that fub...i was a college student looking at an itemized bill my insurance paid....27k test for 3 or 4 hrs. it was excessive...but i did say i also understand that they do work and don't get paid.

being in service business for a bit...i get it.


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Mar 16 2017 02:07PM     link to this

the penalty a 1000 percent or a 1000bucks?

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Mar 16 2017 02:07PM     link to this

And I bet you have read the entire budget....just single out meals on wheels....that should be a local or state cost NOT a federal one. The Federal government has gotten into far too many social programs that are a local concern.

Why is the government funding PBS? They can either survive on contributions or secure some corporate sponsor ships.

We have nearly a $20 trillion debt (about $10 trillion of it built up in Obama's 8 years). We have to roll back the budget on most everything to bring about something closer to a balance.

There have been so many cuts in the military that we do not have the resources to deal with all of the crazies in this world. But hey, when the whack job in North Korea launches his missile hope you are not in the blast zone...LOL.
InsearchofStarfish
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Mar 16 2017 02:07PM     link to this

1000 bucks...sorry i see it.

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Mar 16 2017 02:10PM     link to this

Justify cutting programs such as meals on wheels? I'm waiting make it sound realistic at least
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Mar 16 2017 02:12PM     link to this

I too lost my medical plan (it was a major medical that I bought for more catastrophic medical needs, knowing I could afford the daily out of pocket). Being self employed, I went to the exchange and bought a plan that like Fubar, cost me almost double what I was paying. Of course, this last year, my premium is well over double my old premium and my co pays went up to $40 for general service and $70 for a specialist....and I have a $5000 deductible....

Now that is a real health plan....

And thanks DR, for not actually paying the premium for the plan...so that caused MY premium to go up even more....

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Mar 16 2017 02:13PM     link to this

gov't is not easy...we have a 20 trillion dollar debt that pays 450billion in interest...maybe 50billion more after the interest increase.

tax cuts and repatriation will help make the cuts easier to handle over next few years. I saw some of the cuts were only 50percent of what obama increased them.
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Mar 16 2017 02:14PM     link to this

I'm still waiting?
jazz51
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Mar 16 2017 02:14PM     link to this

DR....read my lips....

Federal government has NO business funding Meals on Wheels....that is a local issue of how many people need such services. The government has butted its nose into so many programs that were NEVER expected to be part of our Federal tax dollars.
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Mar 16 2017 02:15PM     link to this

Yes, starfish....part of the problem was Obama increased shit so much, we need to roll back the costs.
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