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Locked. No further comments permitted.BREAKING NEWS: Trumpcare fails, dead on arrival.
Mar 24 2017 12:48PM more by 1BadHombre
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The first failure of the art of the deal president Trump


are you tired of winning?
      
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Mar 24 2017 12:53PM     link to this

Like that was a surprise.... TrumpCare DOA.
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Mar 24 2017 01:20PM     link to this

So now we are stuck with Obamacare....

23 million Americans either paying the penalty OR asking for the dispensations and exceptions.

Huge number of counties in the country with only 1 or 2 choices of medical coverage.

Huge deficits will continue as this program is totally unsustainable and the subsidies continue to produce red ink.....

Many of the people that are 'counted' in the statistics are covered under Medicaid and NOT Obamacare....

Premium increases all in the double digits and some states as high as 50% or more.

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Mar 24 2017 01:21PM     link to this

Let's just see how bad Obamacare can be....wait another couple of years.......

Bet even Democrats might be screaming for change...
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Mar 24 2017 01:24PM     link to this

The art of the deal president Donald Trump was vociferously shouting and promising the followings:

1) We will rip apart the Iran Deal on day 1
2) We will repeal and replace Obamacarare
3) We will build a medieval wall and have Mexico pay for it


Iran deal is still in place, Obamacare is still in place, no wall is being built and Mexico not paying for squat, muslim travel ban was blocked twice.

Trump
"we will win so much that you will be tired of winning"

uhmmm.... Trump supporters are you tired of winning yet?
1BadHombre
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Mar 24 2017 01:32PM     link to this

for more than 7 years , I heard Republicans saying we will "REPEAL AND REPLACE OBAMACARE!"

Ok, ok ok.... you had 7 years to come up with a plan and now you have a Republican Senate majority, a Republican House of representative Majority, a Republican Cabinet, a Republican President....

.... No repeal ... no replace.... failure... all talk no PLAN!


LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Mar 24 2017 01:38PM     link to this

Lol
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Mar 24 2017 01:38PM     link to this

Companies are submitted proposals for the wall....

I guess you are totally ok with open borders and open travel in this country...hope the next terrorist doesn't ram YOU with his car....

The above stats will continue to haunt Obamacare....

The only fortunate thing about Obamacare is that the majority of Americans get their insurance from their employer.....but in 2020, the Cadillac tax finally kicks in after being delayed by Obama....so if you have REALLY good insurance through your employer and it exceeds government limits, your employer will have to pay a 40% EXCISE TAX for being so generous.....oh I wonder what employers will do....maybe REDUCE those great benefits to YOU....so they don't have to get hit with the tax.....

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Mar 24 2017 01:39PM     link to this

Get it together Republicans. Get it together
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Mar 24 2017 01:41PM     link to this

Hey DR....if the Republicans can't get it together, the Dems will get to live with the imploding Obamacare.....read up on what comes next with the Cadillac tax and additional costs of subsidies...subsidies are going to be moving upwards of 200 billion.....
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Mar 24 2017 01:44PM     link to this

@jazz
"Companies are submitted proposals for the wall.... "

You can draw plans, you can talk big, you can have photo ops but at the end of the day, just like repeal and replace Obamacare, where are you gonna get $20Billion dollars to build a medieval wall again?

oh the tax payers? and you think we are all cool with this malarkey ?



@jazz .... that's the craziest thing I have ever heard.

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Mar 24 2017 01:45PM     link to this

Also, keep in mind that ObamaCare was mostly ideas from the Republicans on health care, they just couldn't get their act together to pass anything. Needed a real leader.

Obama pulled it together, played politics, spun the deal, made it happen. Leader, dealmaker, master politician... Republicans felt all butthurt and never stopped whining.

Big Contrast... One Pres gets a deal done, even though not his perfect plan or even his ideas,

Next Pres, has the majority of Repubs in both houses, been whining for years about they
can't change healthcare cause the Democrats are mean and hurt their feelings and won't play nice.

So the Dems step back and say, ok, your turn... let's see what ya got.

Today we see.
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Mar 24 2017 01:47PM     link to this

Obama fought for 13 months to push healthcare reform

Trump gave up in 3 weeks. Trump: "I'm done negotiating"

This lazy President has no discipline, what happened to the art of the deal?
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Mar 24 2017 01:49PM     link to this

btw, the idea that Obama care is imploding is a completely false idea that keeps being repeated as if that will make it true. Obamacare has been successful. Needs some tweaks.

Mostly, put real teeth in the individual mandate -- need young, healthy people to sign up or pay a fine larger than what the insurance would cost
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Mar 24 2017 01:50PM     link to this

He can't, then he would realize it's not the Dems fault
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Mar 24 2017 01:51PM     link to this

@Jazz the Republican

What about the Iran deal? Trump said he was going to "tear the Iran deal to shred on day 1"
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Mar 24 2017 01:52PM     link to this

loserloserloserloserloserloserloserloser......LOSER TRUMP! His little mouthpiece Spicer said he left it all on the field? OK time to bench the loser. He was afraid of a vote because he would have looked like more of a LOSER. OH, but trumpy said he may take it up again, "If Obamacare Implodes". Listening to him and his minions for so long I thought it already did. 7 Years to work on a plan and these repub losers couldn't figure it out?
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Mar 24 2017 01:53PM     link to this

sadly, this looks like the best Trump can do, a weak, short drive to nowhere.
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Mar 24 2017 01:53PM     link to this

Best part is watching Ryan bend over and take all this like the little bitch he is.
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Mar 24 2017 01:56PM     link to this

So much legislative time and taxpaying money wasted for NOTHING

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Mar 24 2017 02:05PM     link to this

What kind of teeth are you going to put into the individual mandates...raise the penalties to tens of thousands of dollars....put them in jail....cut off their hands...

Can't you understand, the people do not believe that what they are getting is worth what they are paying for it......

So unless the penalties become really harsh, you won't see any changes...and now that premiums are going up an average of about 20% for all plans, that will definitely keep the healthy ones away.....

And the Dems probably don't want to lose the under 25 vote by pissing them off
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Mar 24 2017 02:05PM     link to this

"Oops, my bad"
Hail to the cheese.
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Mar 24 2017 02:10PM     link to this

Jazz regroup dude get it together
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Mar 24 2017 02:16PM     link to this

new book: "The Art of the Repeal"
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Mar 24 2017 02:22PM     link to this

Three trips to Mar lago 11 million ish
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Mar 24 2017 03:00PM     link to this

Duh
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Mar 24 2017 03:05PM     link to this

The sad thing is if the WH had actually read the bill and not choose to go golfing on the weekends it may have passed.
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Mar 24 2017 03:09PM     link to this

No, Trump gotta take this L too
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Mar 24 2017 03:10PM     link to this

sndwoody...I didn't say it was......

Why do you make assumptions about what someone is saying...that isn't the ONLY vehicle terrorist attack.....

And DR....I am merely pointing out the realities of Obamacare...

In a way I hope Trump walks away from healthcare and lets wait a couple more years and see exactly HOW much this program is costing and how there will be NO options for people...

Then there might be a real push for reform.
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Mar 24 2017 03:11PM     link to this

Nope. He will blame the holdouts

Now for the real fun stuff. RUSSIA !!!! Can't wait to see what comes out in the next few months
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Mar 24 2017 03:13PM     link to this

Manafort is gonna sing like a canary.
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Mar 24 2017 03:14PM     link to this

+1 but it's a private concert
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Mar 24 2017 03:16PM     link to this

Unless he cuts a deal, then it will be a very public concerto. Either way the truth is gonna come out
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Mar 24 2017 03:19PM     link to this

sndwoody...what about the Berlin attack in 2016?

The Ohio State University attack?

I just mention car attacks in general......to have the OP think about how he might feel if a terrorist attack affected him.

Geraldo Rrivera changed his tune a whole bunch when his offspring was affected by the Paris attack.
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Mar 24 2017 03:22PM     link to this

Ohio State perpetrator was a Muslim Somali refugee (he was a legal permanent resident, but maybe we need better vetting...LOL)

Berlin....a Tunisian immigrant into Germany
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Mar 24 2017 03:28PM     link to this

geraldo...the voice of reason lately.
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