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teeitup
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Locked. No further comments permitted.Healthcare argument
Sep 25 2017 05:08PM more by teeitup
Tags: Bay Area, Current Events (All tags)

Does the healthcare argument simply come down to:

1 Cover more people and spread the cost out over more people (even though the overall costs will go up)

or

2. Cover less people and spend less money so the overall cost is less in the future

Is that our only choices?
      
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InsearchofStarfish
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Sep 25 2017 05:36PM     link to this

pretty much

they have till saturday or it will never get done thru the simple majority in senate....so it ain't happening
ColossusJones
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Sep 25 2017 05:42PM     link to this


Why let private enterprise do something when the government can do so much less for so much more money?

trvlnman77
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Sep 25 2017 06:47PM     link to this

Of course not. Option 3 would be to do what Elon Musk did to rockets... reduce the unnecessary cost / high prices set by monopolies who don't innovate and don't really give a crap that their technology is decades old and their people are brain dead.

But that doesn't play well politically...
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Sep 25 2017 07:31PM     link to this

Obamacare = cover everybody and be out of office by the time the actual costs hit.


Typical of a politician.
teeitup
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Sep 25 2017 07:37PM     link to this

Trampcare = cover lot less people and be out of office by the timetens of millions get cut off from insurance.

Typical of a politician.




(What's the difference??)
Ispeed2U
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Sep 25 2017 08:01PM     link to this

Diff someone 's gonna get screwed by a burred screw so check first and be aware not unaware
socaliam
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Sep 25 2017 09:32PM     link to this

One is your fantasy.
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Sep 25 2017 10:36PM     link to this

Trumpet losing another battle...lol.

What a douche of a President!
Ispeed2U
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Sep 26 2017 08:30AM     link to this

This is a very difficult problem that can be solved by more contributors or by contributors who have the finances to accomplish it. Things are hurting in this area. I have excellent coverage but in the area I am treated I have seen at least 2 physicians bite the bullet this last year.

Both were top of the line and one saved me from medical things progressing in a way that would have, could have been difficult. While one who is supposed to be tops missed it and is still there. I no longer see him.

My particular thoughts are private insurance coupled with some funded by government which can be possible when more production originates from our country and can make the healthcare system the capability to be dynamic instead of static.














Facephuckker
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Sep 26 2017 09:02AM     link to this

considering there are only some 20 or so million on obammycare, most are illegals anyway
should they let the thing implode, they're no worse off than before it

90% of all citizens still have employer based insurance, which has nothing to do with the gov't crappy healthcare anyway
teeitup
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Sep 26 2017 10:52AM     link to this

Face, are you callin me an illegal??

And I will be worse off if Obamacare goes. Since this is no longer the Franken Decade but the Tee Decade, what happens to me does matter. MAGA, BELIEVE ME
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Sep 26 2017 12:28PM     link to this

EL GRUMPO PARA EL TRUMPO!
Mi Negrito!
teeitup
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Sep 26 2017 12:34PM     link to this





(Grump, did anyone ever tell you that beer is not a healthcare deduction...even if you are a drunk and need it)
teeitup
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Sep 26 2017 12:35PM     link to this

RIP REP.'S
Facephuckker
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Sep 26 2017 12:45PM     link to this

sorry tee, but if the sombrero fits
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Sep 26 2017 12:50PM     link to this

MD2020 is an elixir Tee.
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Oct 6 2017 04:45PM     link to this

Spend NO Money and let the rich live well and untaxed and the poor die in the streets. It works well in India !
InsearchofStarfish
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Oct 6 2017 07:17PM     link to this

untaxed? please expound on that a little
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Oct 6 2017 10:40PM     link to this

Good one frog
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Oct 7 2017 09:04AM     link to this

I choose option 3. Pay for you own damn medical plan! Quit expecting others to pay for your expenses.
juniorcalon
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Oct 7 2017 11:38AM     link to this

Affordable Healthcare is easy.

1) Cigarette, Alcohol, and Drugs. If we eliminated abuse of these, we wouldn't have a health crisis.

2) Babies cost a fortune. It takes a village, so have your damn baby in a village not a hospital

3) Old People- Hint: see Logan's Run.. Oh, that's me... OK..forget old people..
socaliam
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Oct 7 2017 11:58AM     link to this

3) continue the fuckery. Covered California rates going up 12.5% next year.

Obamadontgiveashit and he isn't subject to it.
Detroit51
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Oct 7 2017 12:20PM     link to this

The top 50 richest families in the US are the oligarchs that run this country. About 45 of the 50 are far right wing Republicans lead by the Koch brothers.These oligarchs virtually all of whom acquired their wealth from inheritance pay income taxes only if they wish. Most simply they can avoid taxes indefinitely by living off interest invested in Municipal bonds. This is why the GOP went nuts when their boy Trumpy indicated that Puerto Rico bonds may not be repaid. The mega rich can also live off selling stock which they enjoyed a step-up when inherited. At worst they owe 14% capital gains if their stock went up after they acquired it. Of course they can avoid taxes altogether by just borrowing against assets or by depreciating real estate ( trumps favorite). A few years ago Congress made an attempt to get the top tenth of a percent to pay taxes with the ATM but it has never worked as designed. Some mega rich families do pay some income tax. The Hilton sisters probably paid some taxes an TV earnings. They do not however pay taxes on their trust distributions which are estimated at nearly $1,000,000/month.

The one time the mega rich ARE taxed is when they die. The Koch brothers will have their GOP lackies do anything and compromise anywhere to get this odious tax repealed. It's just like the world beloved Leona Hemsley once said "Taxes are for poor people".
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