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Jun 1 2018 02:28PM more by jazz51
Tags: Orange County, Current Events (All tags)

I would like to issue a formal apology for posting a picture regarding the Roseanne Barr Valerie Jarrett incident.

It was in bad taste and I was trying to be funny, but it was insensitive given the circumstances. It was not ever intended to be racist, but trying to poke some additional humor to a situation that obviously struck very hard with many people.

But I now would like to challenge many others on this site to take a closer look at what they post and even believe. What Roseanne Barr did was unspeakable, but likewise what Kathy Griffin, Michelle Wolf and Samantha Bee have done in the recent past also fall into a category of "across the line."

The intensity and outright hatred in this country is going too far. People on both sides have to scale it back so we can move forward as a nation. I don't like how our current President acts most of the time (although if you know many New York business people from Queens or the Bronx, you might have a better understanding), but I am in agreement with many of his policies. Further, from my perspective, the alternative choice was worse (and you Bernie supporters never even got a chance because of the process). We all can agree to disagree on political party and policy.

However, we must not drop into the abyss of vile and disgusting comments. I crossed the line and am sorry. But others are regularly crossing lines. We see it nightly with Colbert, Handler, etal, and an onslaught from comedians in their stand ups. Morning Joe, the View, and the list goes on and on, a daily outpouring of hatred and absolute PERSONAL disdain and mockery against the President.

Is it right to call someone the "C" word? I think not. But all we have so far is an apology from TBS and her and everyone is moving on. Not even a suspension let alone cancellation of the show. Ironically, Kathy Griffin came out saying Samantha Bee shouldn't apologize and Griffin actually took back her apology regarding the bloody head, so I guess she wasn't so sorry after all. I am sure someone will make a comment about what has happened to Griffin since....I have read it all. But what she did put her under scrutiny. You can't joke about a bomb in your carry or talk about killing the President. So be careful what lines you cross.

Also, I received a message from a member here that read:

"you are old and your ideas are no longer relevant to the world. Die off already"

Quite honestly, I believe THAT crossed the line as well. I may disagree with you but I certainly am not hoping for your demise.

So I challenge all of you....are you crossing lines? If so, should you maybe do what Kimmel said, "take a breath".

Let the investigations proceed. Whatever happens, happens. Let the elections carry out, and whoever is elected is elected. But also don't be so singularly focused that you can't see that 3.8% unemployment (18 year low) is a good thing. Wages are actually growing(up nearly 3%), we may be on the verge of some real progress in dealing with North Korea.

But don't forget about double standards and hypocrisy. Roseanne deserved to be cancelled. But an apology or even an apology taken back are probably not equal treatment. Are you being fair and balanced?....currently 90% anti Trump in network news doesn't seem very balanced to me.

But most of all, we can't get to a place where when we disagree with each other, we are saying I hope you die off or hold up a bloody head. Hopefully a civilized United States is better than that.

Have a good weekend.
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Jun 1 2018 04:25PM     link to this

Class act apology. I’m subscribing to Jazz
jazz51
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Jun 1 2018 04:42PM     link to this

Thanks, belly....I appreciate the comment.

But the person who called for me to die off has claimed I am just spinning and my apology was not sincere as I challenged others to look at their own bias....and look closer for double standards and hypocrisy in our society.

He can't even apologize for saying he hoped another human being would die off. Further evidence of the vile hatred in our society. He now wants me to fuck off and die....

So I guess at least I get some pleasure before he hastens my demise....

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Jun 1 2018 05:04PM     link to this

The fact that you have to actually apologize is the problem. Sorry someone is so thin skinned they wished ill to you. When they resort to such things they know they lost the debate and feel their beliefs threatened. The PC police are self righteous and self appointed, they will not let their own hypocrisy get in their way and will trip over themselves to declare they have moral high ground while at the same time being exactly all they claim to despise.
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Jun 1 2018 05:19PM     link to this

Thanks, Blue.

I guess I am frustrated that so many people can't see how screwed up everything is.

People want inclusion and tolerance and they then demonstrate they are neither themselves.

We have an entire media dumping on our President with 90% of the coverage being negative. He screws up just like the rest of us....but one misplaced word and the vultures attack.

If the tension and hostility don't ease up, I am not sure what will happen. Of course, the good thing, most of middle America is actually pleased with what is happening in the country....

Mostly the two coasts hate Trump and want him gone or like the person who wants me to die off........
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Jun 1 2018 05:20PM     link to this

frstnphnx

So true but so sad.....
jazz51
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Jun 1 2018 05:29PM     link to this

Oh AP, I am still having fun....and maybe we need a repeat of OUR fun.....
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Jun 1 2018 06:01PM     link to this

Jazz51 you have always been a humorous upbeat gentleman. I'm sure you meant no harm.
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Jun 1 2018 06:23PM     link to this

Jazz you are correct.
Some folks preach others to be compassionate, yet those peeps show no
Compassion.

Just recently if you recall a well known person went through
Scrutiny for her lifestyle. She got harassed and bullied over it
And commited suicide (I believe most of you know who this is).

Those people who bullied her labeled themselves as progressives.


Jazz what you did there was a joke. Nothing more...
It’s nice to see that there are genuine and caring people in
This community.

Take care and I hope everyone has a great Friday evening
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Jun 1 2018 06:42PM     link to this

Stop blogging irent
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Jun 1 2018 06:44PM     link to this

Rent can't blog no more?
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Jun 1 2018 06:46PM     link to this

Mjmjmj- remember when you would bully me over being a retirement tease
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Jun 1 2018 06:51PM     link to this

Jazz, classy apology.

I'm gonna call you out on that "90% of media is anti Trump" stat, as I believe it to be unfounded and pulled out of thin air. Just because the majority of reputable news services call him out for constantly lying to the American people (and the world) doesn't mean they are anti Trump. That's their fucking job.

He had such a great opportunity to shake things up, too.
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Jun 1 2018 07:35PM     link to this

The prez absolutely enjoys lying and steering up bullshit more than anything.

That’s his absolute joy in life. Even more than unfaithfully fucking all the hotties he can get

His wanger In. So what if he can’t be loved by everyone right. He’s the greatest

Bull shiter who has ever lived and that needs to be respected.

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Jun 1 2018 07:37PM     link to this

Lol, you saying I'm a bully Belly?

Randy, I've done the math. Only 72.39 % of the media is anti Trump, not 90 %.
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Jun 1 2018 07:46PM     link to this

What news media should we follow and get our news from jazz51?
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Jun 1 2018 08:05PM     link to this

I find the blogs on HX keep me updated on current events, although I would prefer more sports topics and less political ones. And if you want to know what are the best eateries in a certain area, this is the place to be.
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Jun 1 2018 08:07PM     link to this

Media bias continues: 90% of Trump coverage in last three months has been negative, study says
Major broadcast news reports in September, October and November were hostile


i watch the other networks and cable when good shit actually happens and they half ass acknowledge it for 30seconds...the three hostages just released for instance was classic before knocking it down and talking about something else

the nightly news on the three networks has been ~90% anti trump the whole time





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Jun 1 2018 08:21PM     link to this

The first article is fake news. The second article found 81.28 % negative media bias, but that accounts for only the first 100 days he was in office. Not the current rates up to today, which as already pointed out is only 72.39 %.
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Jun 1 2018 08:31PM     link to this

here is an recent mrc study

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Jun 1 2018 08:31PM     link to this

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Jun 1 2018 08:32PM     link to this

Both of those sources lean heavily to the right. The Chicago Tribune was known as one of the worst newspapers ever.

What does the New York Post has to say?
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Jun 1 2018 08:51PM     link to this

His dishonesty is more up front and in your face than the other presidents

Who tried to hide they were lying..

Where he flaunts his dishonesty all the time by changing his tune when ever the fancy strikes him.
You can’t

Accuse him of trying to coverup. He doesn’t know how not to tweet which ever fantasy strikes him

Next.
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Jun 1 2018 08:52PM     link to this


An apology never contains a “but”.

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Jun 1 2018 08:55PM     link to this

Lol, the third article references the same "Media Research Center" as the first article for its stats, except it was from 2018 instead of 2017.

So the "Media Research Center" did studies in 2017 & 2018 and both times found a 90 % bias against Trump.

Can anybody say fake studies done by the same group that always comes up with 90 %?

At least 93.43 % of you should be able to.
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Jun 1 2018 09:02PM     link to this

summary: a long ass racist excuse.
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Jun 1 2018 09:20PM     link to this

Jazz, class act response
Lead by example!

Thanks for taking the initiative, your humble actions are noted!
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Jun 2 2018 06:24AM     link to this

Have you noticed, people who were screaming that Tump was behaving badly are behaving like jackasses themselves. Examples FU Colbert and Megan C. These people belong in the Ringling Brothers Circus or in a mental institute, but they shut down. I am very impressed with the level of hatred. Amusing to me. All these people are making Trump look like a saint. Don't understand why people have to get worked out so much. Just chill out.
"Can we all just get along"
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Jun 2 2018 07:26AM     link to this

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Jun 2 2018 09:09AM     link to this

Someone needs to get laid!
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Jun 2 2018 09:24AM     link to this

Thanks to all the kind words.

I do understand, I probably should have broken this post into to parts. ....the apology and then the rant about how we are not coming together but tearing each other apart. We are Gay Americans, Black Americans, African Americans, Mexican Americans, etal. When do we start being Americans? That is what my message was and much of this labeling is driven or at least pushed by the media as they track down small radical groups and tout their actions....on both sides. White Supremacists and Black Lives Matter are both really small groups when it come to the overall population of the U.S. But they get lots of press. Good hard working middle class Americans never are heard from, expect at the ballot box, and any more, the choices are pretty weak.

Heck, look at our last Presidential Election....enough said for the two candidates....both bad.

So if you feel my apology should have stood alone, i agree. But try to re read the rest with the thought we need to all be less negative and work together for the good of all.
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Jun 2 2018 09:26AM     link to this

And whether the news is 90% or 70% negative...there are lots of things that are happening that are good in this country, but we don't see those things, since there is so much hatred.
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Jun 2 2018 10:31AM     link to this

Very well said Jazz
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Jun 2 2018 10:53AM     link to this

jazz you’re woke!
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Jun 2 2018 01:38PM     link to this

1. Yes, women should be able to use the C word, just as AA use the N word. 2. Trump wants apologies, when has he ever apologized for hundreds of slurs and insults he has used? 3. The media is biased against Trump? Have you ever read his tweets? How about Fact check says he has lied over 3,000 times...at least. And these are documented by his tweets.
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Jun 2 2018 01:39PM     link to this

Sam Bee should be fires, as should the orange clown!
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