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Mar 13 2019 03:16PM more by Grumpy
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Yay or Nay ?

Gavin signed executive order to suspend execution in California.
      
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Mar 13 2019 03:23PM     link to this

There are over 700 inmates on California's death row awaiting the needle. Do all of them tomorrow and then we talk about it.

Gav is stepping on his dick already.
Grumpy
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Mar 13 2019 03:55PM     link to this

Well Trump is outraged. Trump is a stone cold killa.
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Mar 13 2019 04:00PM     link to this

As usual the Dem light bulbs step on their dicks!
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Mar 13 2019 05:33PM     link to this

Executing innocent people isn't OK. And you KNOW there are some innocents among the death row convicts. (Too many f_ck up'd prosecutions in the past being uncovered.)

However, the CA electorate said "yes" to executions so how can you stop what has become a "non-existent process?" (no executions in 30some yrs?)


Methinks Gavin f_cked up this one.
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Mar 13 2019 05:33PM     link to this





(grump, you know you're gunna get canned for this blog, right?)
Grumpy
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Mar 13 2019 06:41PM     link to this

I oppose the penalty unless its a smoking gun verdict. If its circumstantial then life is plenty enough.

I was on Death Row once, but Suge Knight showed me leniency and I was pardoned.
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Mar 13 2019 06:46PM     link to this

As for you pigeon lips.......if i get a can, it better be a 40 ounce.
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Mar 13 2019 07:12PM     link to this

fucking liberal loon, but at least tee is safe for a minute
Grumpy
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Mar 13 2019 07:46PM     link to this

I say we tie the pelican to a tree, and whip him with a stick.
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Mar 13 2019 08:24PM     link to this

That fucker.
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Mar 13 2019 09:07PM     link to this

about time we start a recall of the gov
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Mar 13 2019 09:15PM     link to this

Needle them all. Then Newson can use the vacant prison cells for affordable housing for the homeless.
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Mar 13 2019 10:09PM     link to this

Scott Peterson is laughing in his cell.
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Mar 13 2019 10:30PM     link to this

Gavin's such a pussy...


Disgrace of a human being...


Needs to turn in his man card big time...


Feel sorry for all of the Family's that had their loved one just brutally murdered by these heinous criminals who know nothing but violence and hate, and are proven incapable of rehabilitation, but yet the taxpayer's are on the hook to continue paying for their existence, and they're never subjected to atone for their evil sins against humanity...
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Mar 13 2019 10:31PM     link to this

Pete we voted him into office
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Mar 13 2019 10:49PM     link to this

The people voted to keep capital punishment but Gavin is defying it and giving the finger to the idiots who voted for him.
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Mar 13 2019 11:03PM     link to this

No one should be surprised by this move. Newsom said that he would respect the will of the voters on the death penalty, and since he’s a politician, we should have known he was lying.

He’s going against the will of the people and I heard he might actually be breaking the law by ordering the death chamber dismantled, but hey what are the odds it was going to get used. Oh yeah, California just completed all the steps that court injunction demanded before we could start trimming those death row numbers down.

If he’s going to effectively end it for his term in office, at least transfer all those fuckers to general population. Maybe some fucker with a shank will be able to accomplish what California has been unable to.
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Mar 13 2019 11:18PM     link to this

He did not end the death penalty only that no one would be put to death during his term as governor.
DAs will probably still ask for the death penalty on new and pending cases. He cannot commute the sentences to life without parole for most ( except those who only have one charge) as the Supreme Court has to approve each multi charge case individually and rejected Browns attempts recently on other cases that were not even death cases.
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Mar 13 2019 11:24PM     link to this

^^^ Gavin should have to tell that shit to Edna Bristol and Kathy Ryan's families...
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Mar 14 2019 04:59AM     link to this

It looks like it is purely political and nothing to do with conscience. There has not been a California execution in ages anyway. Also, he could handle them on a case by case basis as they come up, or maybe he is too lazy for that.

My problem with Newsom is not that he is a liberal but that he is a huge phony, and always has been.
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Mar 14 2019 05:31AM     link to this


None of that matters because the only approved method of execution in California is lethal injection. And the state can’t get the correct pharmaceuticals. So even if politicians had the stomach for it, can’t be done.

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Mar 14 2019 06:06AM     link to this

Inject a bullet, done.
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Mar 14 2019 09:59AM     link to this

Criminals are no longer afraid of the justice system in California.

Early release;
Time served;
Good behavior;
Felonies reduced to misdemeanors;
Cops now thought to be the bad guys;
Victims not respected.

We need to start killing some of these motherfuckers. Bring back hangings, the gas chamber, and firing squads. With firing squads, we can do 5-10 at a time!

We need to take this state back from the loons who have monopolized it!
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Mar 14 2019 10:10AM     link to this

What are your thoughts on the poor bastards that are innocent? Time has shown, that corrupt cops and prosecutors have swept it under the table just to show numbers?

Yes I agree, fast trak them assholes who are murdering bastards.
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Mar 14 2019 10:14AM     link to this

teeitup...

With the amount of appeals that are enacted by the death row criminals, I doubt anyone actually executed was innocent, at least not here in California. Might happen in the South, but our courts are so liberal, the criminal will never get railroaded.. The scrutiny of the original trial by multiple appellate courts would flag any fucked up prosecutions.

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Mar 14 2019 10:58AM     link to this

" Might happen in the South, but our courts are so liberal, the criminal will never get railroaded."

SMH
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Mar 14 2019 11:12AM     link to this

My completely unsolicited two cents....


I don't think state sanctioned murder is ever a good idea. Ever. Even if the guy is guilty and remorseless. It's not justice, it's revenge, and that's not something to be celebrated and shouldn't even be tolerated IMO. Besides, you're only creating more victims because yes, the prisoner's family didn't do anything, and they're losing a person they love and a member of their family. I don't understand how killing another person is supposed to solve anything. Let's not even talk about death row inmates who have mental illness or qualify as mentally retarded in one state, but not another, and the only difference between life and death for that person is a couple of hundred miles. It's arbitrary, and vengeful, and ridiculous.

Compassion teaches people a lot more than revenge does.


Aside from all that, if you want to look at JUST the costs, forget the fast track that you creepily vengeful fucks are so excited about... the costs alone of housing someone on death row far outweigh the costs of keeping them in prison for life, without a possibility of parole. If all you care about is the money, then keep them in prison forever. Better yet, make them do something productive and selfless with their life while they're in prison instead of just shelving them, because that accomplishes nothing and certainly doesn't act as a deterrent if you look at the stats. The South (FL, GA, AR, TX etc) executes prisoners at a rate far beyond the rest of the country, but has the highest murder rate, so STFU about deterrence. Don't need me to tell you that though, it's been proven time and time again, you can look up the studies yourself.


I'd like to think most people are good, or at least mean well..... But then I read threads like this and realize that there's a lot more violence and hatred in people's hearts than I'd like to admit. (and no, I'm not talking about death row inmates when I say that)
Revenge isn't justice and shouldn't be characterized as such.
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Mar 14 2019 11:17AM     link to this

I have three words for your costs.

Pay per view
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Mar 14 2019 11:19AM     link to this

you would, Lou.



nasty












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Mar 14 2019 11:54AM     link to this

I am not actually a proponent of the death penalty.

However, the voters in this State decided they are.

There are statistics all over the place about deterrence and rehabilitation, One thing is certain, a person who murders someone can't do it again if they are dead.

However, our society needs to be protected from those who are violent and are committing crimes against their fellow man. If that means a life sentence, so be it. However, we continue to water down sentencing and as stated above by yellowB2, criminals have little concern for the justice system.

There needs to be some deterrent and stiffer sentences might be the answer, NOT lighter ones.
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Mar 14 2019 01:07PM     link to this

@phyremedic... you should know better than to incoeprate facts into a debate with the left. Name calling and, often, race baiting are the tools of their trade.
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Mar 14 2019 01:10PM     link to this

Let’s make a deal with Slick Gavin. We’ll agree to no more executions under his watch if he lets us whack everyone on Death Row now. Clean slate for everyone.
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Mar 14 2019 01:25PM     link to this

Delaine spoke elequently. The death penalty discrimates against the poor and mentally handicapped.
Innocent people exist on death rows throughout the country. The spike in exonerations show this. In my opinion until human judgment is infallible how can one support the death penalty.?
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Mar 14 2019 02:19PM     link to this

If you are against killing someone under any circumstances that’s fine, I can understand that stance. I may not agree with it, but I can understand it.

However if your stance is that we shouldn’t have a Death Penalty because an innocent person “might” be put to death, give me a break. There are certainly safeguards that can be put in place, and a lot that are in place in California.

For those of you that are against the Death Penalty out of fear that an innocent person may get executed, let me ask you this? How do feel about an irrefutable case?

As a supporter of the Death Penalty, let me clarify my stance. I think it should be reserved for the most evil of crimes. I don’t think of the Death Penalty as a deterrent, it is punishment. Plain and simple. It is the concept that some people no longer deserve to draw breath, or see another day, after they have destroyed innocent lives. The argument that someone gets the Death Penalty is pure luck based on where they committed the crime is a dishonest argument. If the criminal did commit the heinous act in the first place, they wouldn’t have to worry about the Death Penalty.
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Mar 14 2019 02:35PM     link to this

@Delaine

I believe in death row and the death penalty. Our white women'z(like Delaine) must be protected from the filth that end up on death row. If we do not do this then these inmates will one day get of jail and steal them some (Delaine) white women'z. And that would be a tragedy ..
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Mar 14 2019 03:31PM     link to this

Life without parole is the only remedy to deal with the objections the bloggers have raised . And yes innocent people have been and will be put to death in this country.
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Mar 14 2019 04:41PM     link to this

Life without parole....

But then we get people who believe those same people deserve a second chance and we let them out, so we never seem to have life without parole.
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