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You might want to think about this - inverted yield curve
Dec 4 2018 02:07PM more by teeitup
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We're currently at about "0" on this chart

Buckle your seat belts?
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Grumpy
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Dec 4 2018 04:06PM     link to this

Dow Jones down 800 points.
Thanks Trump.
teeitup
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Dec 4 2018 04:21PM     link to this

Good reason to be Grumpy today. Wait no, just be yourself.
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Dec 4 2018 04:25PM     link to this

I have been saying this for months.

But hey I will cover "shorts" when this goes down to 22,000 on the DOW.

teeitup
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Dec 4 2018 04:33PM     link to this

Might be on Thurs....
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Dec 4 2018 04:53PM     link to this

Obama entered office after a recession was ending, if he did nothing the market would rebound which it did.

Low DOW under Bush was ~6900.
Low DOW under Obama was ~6400

High DOW under Obama ~19,000
High Dow under Bush ~14,000

That's right the DOW hit 14,000 under Bush so just to get back to Bush era numbers the DOW needed to get to 14,000. The market didn't even get back to Bush levels until almost 2014. So in 8 years after a recession it went up ~5000 or so points. Matter of fact it was 17,000 when Trump won and took off right after.The DOW is currently 24,500 after a year and a half under Trump. Since his election the Dow has risen 33.00+ %.
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Dec 4 2018 05:08PM     link to this

You forget Mueller still has to release his report to Congress. Who knows where the Dow will be by then.
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Dec 4 2018 06:58PM     link to this


This exact same blog each time - be less greedy if you want less risk.

Manufacturing is up and that will be much more important than apps and shit to get more regular people working.

Until technology replaces them all and it should get fun in a few decades.
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Dec 4 2018 09:43PM     link to this

https://youtu.be/RJxVCsWzRx8
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Dec 5 2018 07:56AM     link to this

How’s the socialism that the Dems want to bring to America working out for France this week? I am no Trump fan but Bernie Sanders and Olivia Ocasio Cortez should be run off
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Dec 5 2018 08:42AM     link to this

So what are we talking about here -- a bent penis or an inverted nipple?
yellowB2
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Dec 5 2018 08:47AM     link to this

But in all seriousness, anyone who took home economics in school should know that the maturity rate on a 10 year treasury note is no indicator of the short of long term health of the economy.

Here's how rates on t-bills are set by the market:

During times of high economic growth, investors are less risk-averse and the demand for bills tends to drop. As T-bill yields rise, other interest rates rise as well. Other bond rates climb, the required rate of return on equities tends to rise, mortgage rates tend to rise and the demand for other "safe" commodities tends to drop.

So...in times of high economic growth (like now), t-bills tend to drop. So all those low points on your inverted nipple chart: those are times of high economic growth...like...right...now.

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Dec 5 2018 09:26AM     link to this

Special pls
teeitup
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Dec 5 2018 09:35AM     link to this

yellow, you forgot "high economic growth followed by recessions"

What goes up must come down...just how hard and how fast
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Dec 5 2018 02:49PM     link to this

put a dow in me I'm done
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Dec 5 2018 02:53PM     link to this

Yes all the Quantitative Easing through out Obamas Reign allowed the economy to soar beyond normal. Now that the Federal Reserve is raising rates the economy is adjusting to not having free money to speculate on all those shiny old/new tech stocks. Corrections are in order.
teeitup
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Dec 5 2018 04:23PM     link to this

^^^interesting part is that everybody and their mothers (except Tramp) knew that QE would have to end and the interest rates would have to rise. But I guess everyone had to get while the getting was good. FMLT.
teeitup
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Dec 5 2018 05:24PM     link to this

well maybe Tramp and a smelly feline.
teeitup
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Dec 10 2018 01:25PM     link to this

If you are riding the Disney Dow Jones Ride, I'm collecting E-tickets. Thunder Mountain ain't nothing compared to the Dow...WEEEEEEEEEEE!
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Dec 10 2018 10:50PM     link to this

umm, yeah, that graph does not properly depict an inverted yield curve, my man.

the inverted yield curve (and this is from memory) is such that the rise in rates due to maturity is at an exponentially increasing rate. Normally, the rise in rates is at a declining rate over time.

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