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some people are gonna have a stroke that you are suggesting CNN is a good source of info
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Try KCOP or KDOC
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I totally agree with lach.....
CNN....really. You shot a 10 foot hole in your entire blog comment with that one.
At CNN EVERYTHING is opinion. I don't think they have actually covered news like a news source for anything other than the weather. And even the weather brings about comments of climate change....
We do have a crisis of 'made up news'. The Pew Poll that was just taken noted that Americans view 'fake news' as a bigger problem than violent crime, climate change and racism. Further, 68% also say that made up news and information greatly impacts our confidence in our government institutions.
So yes, we have a crisis of lack of news credibility, but to state CNN as a reputable news source, your comment falls into the made up news category.
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KDOC.....
WALLY GEORGE.......yeah!
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CNN definitely has a bias to the left, in both their opinion pieces and their news coverage. And they are also sometimes sloppy and make mistakes. However, the facts they report are generally accurate and when they make factual errors they typically own up to them and issue a correction.
Fox, on the other hand regularly has factual errors and rarely acknowledges mistakes or inaccurate information it has broadcast. My gut tells me the inaccuracies on Fox are not unintentional.
Outlets such as Breitbart, intentionally disseminate false and misleading information. If you rely on it (and others like it) as a source, you are not interested in being informed, you are only interested in having your ideology reinforced.
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Oh, I forgot to mention one other important fact: I like big tits.
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As I said, it would be the most controversial part of my post. Many people have opinions on the sources listed. They're not perfect and there are articles and parts of shows that are opinion and not news, but each source is factual, credible and accountable.
I have no problem with people having their own opinions on those sources. Use some and not others as you choose, but please, by all means check your sources. When you don't, you are doing damage to our country and democracy in general.
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And then there's this amazing piece of video evidence...
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@lachineseguy
"some people are gonna have a stroke that you are suggesting CNN is a good source of info"
I know. I considered not even listing any sources in the original post. As maddening as I find the format at CNN, the fact is, they are reliably factual in their reporting and hold themselves accountable when they make a mistake.
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Every news outlet will be seen to have a political bent one way or the other based on the political bent of the person consuming it's content. That is not germane to this topic, only if they're credible, factual and accountable to their audience.
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Just keep telling yourself that CNN is not biased.
Yes, Fox is right biased, but CNN is left biased. As stated, story selection and coverage is definitely left biased. To call them a credible source is to ignore the meaning of 'credible', "able to be believed"
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@IRentLol
"All I repeat ALL news has spin whether it be to the right or to the left. Believe it or not AlJazeera USA used to be the most spin free news around but I haven't seen them around in a few years. It figures the only actual news program without the opinions of the reporters appears to be gone lol"
I agree, some more than others. In fact, most of the "spin" doesn't even show up on screen, but happens behind the scenes editorially when they're deciding what stories to cover or not cover.
It is the press' job to undo the spin the politicians put forth and some anchors/writers are better at it than others.
The real concern for us, though, is are they being factual? Are they challenging the misinformation that may occur on their program or as quotes in their article? Do they report factually? And in their opinion pieces, are they basing their opinions on facts?
In this day and age, it's difficult to avoid spin, but if you know what the facts are, it's easier to recognize spin when you hear it and not let it influence you.
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OAN is a pretty straight forward news site.
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george putnam ?
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@Jazz51
I hear you. But this is a whole other can of worms. Pinning down the baseline or middle point of media bias is a very subjective thing. What one person sees as middle of the road or fair, another may see as distinctly biased.
I'm only concerned with are they factual and accountable to their audience when they get it wrong. And CNN is.
As to your link, it's not exactly a professional or reliable source. It's method for coming to it's conclusions is not scientific in any way. The founder, Dave Van Zandt, gets his team together (no one knows how many make up this team or their political biases) and they rate each outlet on a scale of 1-10. Heck, even Van Zandt refers to himself as "an arm chair researcher on media bias and its role in political influence."
I don't think they're up to no good, but arm chair?
In an article from December of 2018, the Columbia Journalism Review referred to that website as amateur. It's a really good and comprehensive piece on the subject and worth the read. I'll link it below.
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Here are some you might check out.
The Economist is pretty middle of the road and they actually source their information.
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"Exactly to be biased and still factual all you have to do is leave out what you don't agree with"
Yup! That's why it's so important to know the facts and get them from as many different reputable sources as you can.
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Again, declaring a source biased is essentially in the eye of the beholder. To be factual and accountable is not.
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OP's credible sources
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TLDR
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Just keep telling yourself that CNN is a legitimate and unbiased news source......Heck, even the former head of CNN said the coverage of Trump was biased.....
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And I would highly doubt any journalists rating each other.
Here are a couple of interesting reads.
Both are a little dated, but I might expect the numbers are even worse today than when these polls were taken.
The White House press corp in 2016 did not have a single Republican. Really?
And the Washington Post poll showing only 7% of journalists categorize themselves as Republicans compared to 28% Democrat will certainly give an indication of leaning.....I bet all those Democrats are fairly and evenly covering the news about Trump.
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"I'm only concerned with are they factual and accountable to their audience when they get it wrong. And CNN is. "
Not sure if in Jazz's links above but after the Mueller Dossier was released CNN CEO Jeff Zucker defended their Muh Russia and negative coverage and stated their job was, "not to be factual and correct themselves but to report the news as they see it."
That'a not biased. Not at all.
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I may have gotten that slightly wrong, which makes me now a step above CNN.
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Coverage can (and usually is) biased. Facts, as the OP has pointed out, are not. To say CNN is not a legit source of information is simply wrong, and quite honestly, not even germane. The question is, are the facts they report accurate?
Get your information from multiple sources. But get it from accurate sources if you actually want to be informed. If you are getting information from sources that claim a huge pro-Trump crowd was demonstrating in England this week, but in fact they were using photos from two years ago, it’s bullshit. If you buy into this, you are willfully ignorant.
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Harpooner....you obviously are left leaning. I will give you my bias...I am a Republican.
You also obviously did not read any of my links. Even people now on the left are saying CNN is very biased.
Factual....I don't even have time to post all the times CNN didn't get it correct.
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Right, and there certainly isn’t any bias at CNN or the NYT. Get a Clue. You live in the land of opportunity and want to be led into socialism. All you have to do is work hard and you won’t be a loser
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1st - yes, big tits are absolutely the most important thing(s) in the world
and for as unbiased as we can generally find, try https://www.apnews.com/
a little more biased is https://www.csmonitor.com/ but still pretty accurate
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This guy is a fucking idiot if he thinks his list is reputable vs most others.
Being a fucking idiot is a bigger issue in our country.
PS - Suck a dick OP
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here ya go
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And Mexico is working on the Caravans swarming our border. I’ll bet CNN will say nothing about it.
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Ya think China and Mexico need us more than we need them?
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Yes
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OP, you lost any chance of fairness at CNN.
Absolute face plant.
Might as well have listed Fox.
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OP,
The Washington Post and the New York Times lack of integrity was scathingly called into question by Ted Koppel of Nightline fame for putting opinion pieces on their front pages and claiming them as factual news stories as opposed to opinion pieces.
If I had any doubt about what he was saying i got a chance to see it few days later myself. The Washington Post posted a news story on the internet that they claimed to be fact checking on statements Trump had made. The third statement they examined said Trump statement was factually correct but he was still wrong and they said pretty much the same about the fourth statement. At that point in time I realized they were trying to claim this fact checking as a news story but in reality it was a opinion piece disagreeing with Trump.
Of your list the best of the lot is probably BBC. Sadly enough Irent is correct that ALjazeera USA also put out a lot of facts you might not hear elsewhere. Unfortunately they no longer exist.
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Yes, much of the foreign press is far more objective than ours. The CNNs of the world are killing real journalism, possibly forever.
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But you can always trust ME.
Fair and balanced since Jan. 1. MAGA! (Making American Gournalism Admissible)
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There are 2 distinct and separate populations in America, those that watch CNN, and those that watch FOX News.
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Putnam ?
Ya he warned us about the illegal alien invasion back then. and even then it was to little to late.
RIP.
As for the others. Inforwars baby. Trumps the others 99% of the time.
It's all hear say until you have first hand knowledge.
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As soon as I saw your "credible" I fell on the floor laughing. You're full of shit.
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