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US vs. Iran part 2, the revenge
Jun 22 2019 07:00PM more by sherkahn
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Keeping the discussion going, since this looks like this will continue to get ugly.

1. Trump has said that he would implement more sanctions on Monday. Experts in the US and abroad say that while his aggressive posturing may work with other nations, Iran seems to have been backed into a corner and will continue to strike, as it is the only response thst they have left that fets the results they want.

2. General Petreus gave some insight about the “last minute” change of heart, as a President is normally well aware of a potential body count before an order to strike is given, besides enemy counter strikes options. While he wasn’t in the room, and the way it was handled seemed strange.

So it was one of three things:

- Trump was bluffing, and he got called on by the Iranians.
- trump was walking a fine line of appeasing his war hawks, and looking like he had a position of strength for negotiations with Iran
- Trump’s leash was pulled by Putin, when Putin announced his displeasure on local Russian TV
      
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Jun 22 2019 07:30PM     link to this

Although Trump seems like a war mongering Republican he first was a Democrat.
Thinking long and hard, he decided not to engage. Good move on his behalf. Iran did not kill any Americans with the missile strike. Trump does not want war. His party does. I think Trump is playing all sides on this one. Typical Trump move. Smart man.
EL GRUMPO PARA EL TRUMPO!
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Jun 22 2019 08:14PM     link to this

more than likely we will hit them in the same measured response trump said
I think israel will strike first at their nuclear facilities
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Jun 22 2019 08:19PM     link to this

I think your right. Did you know Israel built a settlement name after Donald Trump.
They absolutely love him there. So what better way to pay him back then take the contract on Iran.
EL TRUMPO SI ES MUCHO SMARTO!
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Jun 22 2019 09:02PM     link to this

trump heights

teeitup
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Jun 22 2019 09:03PM     link to this

"trump lows"
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Jun 22 2019 09:17PM     link to this

fish bait
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Jun 23 2019 01:40PM     link to this

Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't

OP - you may be the biggest whiner of them all. There are others that are close, but you are definitely amoung the worst.

If he would have bombed them, guessing you would have whined about that as well?



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Jun 23 2019 01:42PM     link to this

And, just to pile on, you don't know shit. Just cause you list 3 scenarios doesn't mean any of them are true.

I have stated here many times. And will continue to do so.

You guys don't know shit. Your speculations are typically wrong. And he is stil not in jail. Or prison.

But we know all you got is whining. So, please continue.
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Jun 23 2019 01:44PM     link to this

Yup. They just cry and cry and cry. Big fucking babies. You know who you are. OP being the worst of the bunch.
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Jun 23 2019 02:42PM     link to this


One little-reported detail of this story is, like the tail of the stealth Blackhawk we left behind in Pakistan, we tipped our hand a bit too generously here. According to military sources, we crippled Iran’s air defense system with malware ahead of the attack that was then called off.
Now of course, Iran and by implication Russia, who sold them these systems, are aware we can do that.
#facepalm



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Jun 23 2019 02:44PM     link to this

And? Are you saying now we can no longer cripple it? Cause I doubt they have a way to stop it.
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Jun 23 2019 02:46PM     link to this

You realize we do that everytime we have plans on bombing anyone right? Cause we do. And it has never been stopped.
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Jun 23 2019 02:50PM     link to this

I agree with G. OP is the biggest Trump whiner and Fish is a close 2nd on HX.
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Jun 23 2019 02:53PM     link to this

that could be an issue if true

the fact that piece of news comes out in the first place is not that great and if true and more likely unbelievable(story)...anyone that leaked it will be found out and dealt with if true(capability/result)



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Jun 23 2019 02:57PM     link to this

You notice he did not link anything about this right? Probably more speculation.
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Jun 23 2019 03:02PM     link to this

Let me help you. Here is one article. Don't see mention of it being a problem.
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Jun 23 2019 03:04PM     link to this

Do you have one that says someone is speculating that this was a bad idea cause now they know? They have always known we are capable of it. We did the same in 1990. Took out their commuinications and radar within 10 minutes of the bombing. They were blind from the first bomb dropped.

So where is the problem? Are you just another whiner we can add to the list?

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Jun 23 2019 03:08PM     link to this

The list is growing fast!
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Jun 23 2019 03:11PM     link to this

Found another one. Here is all you almost had to bank on.

"There was no immediate reaction on Sunday morning in Iran to the US claims. Iran has hardened and disconnected much of its infrastructure from the internet after the Stuxnet computer virus, widely believed to be a joint US-Israeli creation, disrupted thousands of Iranian centrifuges in the late 2000s".

Shit, they disconnected from the internet in 2000 and we still found a way in. Silly boys.

Like I said, no one can stop us crippling them.
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Jun 23 2019 03:12PM     link to this

Does anyone really think the US would show our best cards over a downed drone with Iran? )
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Jun 23 2019 04:20PM     link to this

This is what happens when you meddle in the affairs of other countries. You make generational enemies. The US will never learn.
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Jun 23 2019 04:27PM     link to this

in your mind is that trump's fault?
TheRealGuido
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Jun 23 2019 04:29PM     link to this

Shit, we have been meddling in other countries business for a hell of a long time.

Obama did it too. Is he to blame?

Do I need to add you to the whiners list?
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Jun 23 2019 04:33PM     link to this

i am very interested in his answer here with his first(or i guess second) hand association with trump

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Jun 23 2019 04:44PM     link to this

ya i don't expect it
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