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Jul 24 2019 12:05PM more by InsearchofStarfish
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is acting a little feeble

not a good hearing...funny hearing his energy answering in the affirmative when the dems are trying to make their case...almost like they practiced this and he is excited to have heard the question before

zero energy or ability to answer a repub question

      
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Jul 24 2019 12:49PM     link to this

Yeah he didn't come across super well in the first part of the morning, at least from what I saw. Once he warmed up he did a lot better.


In his defense though, he's trying to be very specific with his answers, and from what I saw the GOP were asking a number of questions about things that had nothing to do with the report, or in a way that was designed to try and get him to contradict himself. I can't blame him for wanting to be extremely specific, and make sure that what they were quoting actually did match what was in the report. I'd want to do the same thing if that were me in his position. Poor guy looks like he didn't sleep a wink last night. I haven't watched since the first half this morning tho, so I don't know what this afternoon's looked like.


I get what the Dems are trying to do here though. A lot of Americans haven't read the Mueller Report and have no idea that there's even anything bad in it, they just screech about Fusion GPS and then stop listening. The content is pretty damning though.
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Jul 24 2019 01:16PM     link to this

The Dems are terrible strategists.
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Jul 24 2019 01:19PM     link to this

LOL @ House "Intelligence" Committee. RULE 1, NEVER ask a question you don't know the answer to. Most of the representatives were mediocre at best.

And if the Russians were helping Trump, you can bet the Chinese were helping Hilary.

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Jul 24 2019 02:20PM     link to this

Let's have another round hearings and another Russia investigation...

This is in lieu of actually coming up with some solutions the problems in the country.
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Jul 24 2019 02:48PM     link to this

This involves a hostile country meddling in our election to help a candidate of their choice.
I'm sure all you pro Trump people really enjoyed it when Clinton got impeached for getting a blow job by a consenting adult.
Yeah, that was not a waste of time and money.
I'm surprised Trump isn't selling his jizz, I'm sure his hx fan club would gulp it up.
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Jul 24 2019 02:56PM     link to this

LOL what evidence is there that the Chinese were helping Hillary?! And what do either of the Clintons have to do with the Russian gov't, it's extensive troll farms and bots, and dark money meant to sway voters in an American election? They're even further removed if you want to talk about obstruction of justice.



Did any of y'all who read the Mueller report, actually read it with an open mind?
Or maybe you didn't read it at all.... Because Fusion GPS, Hillary Clinton, "it's just opposition research", "collusion isn't a legal term", and "even Mueller said he can't indict."

Just guessing lol




fite fite fite fite fite!
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Jul 24 2019 03:25PM     link to this

Dammit Fubar. Stop being reasonable. I'm trying to have a fite here.
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Jul 24 2019 03:39PM     link to this

I'm not even sure what we're talking about anymore
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Jul 24 2019 03:46PM     link to this

knew someone well with alzheimer's...I would bet 1000 bucks mueller's diag will be coming out in the next 30months....should be next 6mos, but that would fuck the dem's case up

same exact speech pattern...both extremely well educated and that provides cover in the early stages


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Jul 24 2019 03:49PM     link to this

Bill Clinton and Al Gore promised they were going to punish China for human rights violations. Yet, they ended up giving China Preferential Trade Status. Trump has stepped up, and is trying to put the Chinese in check. Unfair trade dumping, and stealing intellectual property. Hilary would have knuckled to China.
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Jul 24 2019 03:51PM     link to this

My point is, other countries have meddled into our elections for years. I'm sure China would have been backing Hilary v Trump 2016.
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Jul 24 2019 04:06PM     link to this

GRUMP FOR TRUMP!
GRUMP FOR TRUMP!
GRUMP FOR TRUMP!

my negrito!
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Jul 24 2019 04:19PM     link to this

PUMP THE GRUMP!
PUMP THE GRUMP!
PUMP THE GRUMP!
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Jul 24 2019 06:35PM     link to this

Of course countries try to meddle in others elections. The world is much more connected economically than ever before for instance The US as well has been doing this for years. In fact we have gone so far as to overthrow governments whose election results we did not like. One problem that is a recent one is cyber security and what effect cyberattacks could have on election results themselves.
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Jul 24 2019 07:14PM     link to this

What we learned ( for the slow republicans), is that mueller indeed agreed that there was and currently is election meddling going on from foreign interference. That members of the trump administration met with Russians to discuss possibility of help, and the meddling was in favor of trump who won by handful of votes and who lost the popular vote. A lot of people from the trump campaign are already in jail for a lot of shady shit. I'd say we learned a lot.
And nice job proving that your line of Hillary getting help,from China was pure speculative bs.
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Jul 24 2019 08:20PM     link to this

Feel the bernπŸ”₯
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Jul 24 2019 10:05PM     link to this

Regardless of your opinions about Trump I think most people had to feel a little sorry for Mueller.

I did not see every minute of his testimony but the parts I did see and the live testimony I heard on the radio reminded me of a video of Reagan being questioned towards the end of his time in the White House regarding Iran Contra. It was apparent that Reagan was already feeling the effects of Alzheimer's. I got the same feeling watching Mueller today.

I don't know when Mueller's mental capacities started to slip but based upon his performance today I doubt that he actually wrote most of the report and was competent to review the wording to see that what he wanted to say was reflected in the report. Obviously if he knew he was on the downhill slope when he accepted the special prosecutor's role he should have declined the appointment.

However at this point none of us know when he started to slip.
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Jul 24 2019 10:25PM     link to this

mueller had a few decent exchanges where he seemed pretty normal or the material was extremely familiar and comfortable

there is no way in hell he wrote any of this stuff...he could not even read any of it and asked others to read it for him.

did he lead the investigation? maybe a figure head? probably why they got the asst to show last minute and postponed it.

barr would eat this dude for lunch


dem leadership came out and were all smiles....thought they were going to say we are impeaching this mother fucker now

the new investigations are going to be fun...let's get the ball rolling on these sanctimonious assholes


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Jul 25 2019 04:32AM     link to this

GRUMP FOR TRUMP!
He's a fucking liar, and so am I.
My Niggah!
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Jul 25 2019 05:35AM     link to this

This was really just all about getting Americans to listen to what is really in the report. Mueller was just sitting in the chair as a prop.

Highlights:

*** The report specifically says it does NOT exonerate Trump of criminal wrongdoing.

*** Trump Campaign Manager Manafort met with Russians and provided them with campaign polling and strategy information so they knew what message Trump's people wanted to get out and where they most wanted to get it out. I don't see how that is NOT conspiring with the Russians to have them in on the campaign, yet that was the report's conclusion - no conspiracy by the campaign in general.

*** Despite warnings from his own lawyer that going around telling people Mueller's investigation was a witch hunt and it should be ended could be seen as obstruction of justice, Trump did it anyway, on more than one occasion.

*** Repeated attempts to publicly undermine the credibility of the Mueller investigation could also be taken as evidence of obstruction of justice.

*** When Trump was informed that he personally was not being excluded in regards to possible Russia/campaign/conspiracy activities, he said "Oh my God! This is the end of my presidency! I'm fucked!" This type of statement is called an "excited utterance" and is taken as evidence of a guilty mind, one of the requirements for an obstruction of justice conviction.

Mueller's performance did seem a bit feeble at some points, but all this stuff was in the report itself.
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Jul 25 2019 07:25AM     link to this

Drizzle drazzle drizzle drome.......time for this one to go home.
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Jul 25 2019 07:36AM     link to this


i guess we missed the whole exchange on exoneration...was very educational btw.


i think mueller needs to be worried about blow back when the new investigations come out

he's had a nice career...maybe like joe paterno (luckily died) or cosby (should have died)...mueller needs to exit before his name gets trashed and he has to live through it.













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Jul 25 2019 08:07AM     link to this

I see it as mind blowing that you seemingly successful intelligent men support Trump and his criminal ways. Not to mention that he's a known idiot! Trump had run his life breaking laws and moral norms. He got elected using the same tactics.
He's not changing now that he's...ugggg running this country.

And yes after watching WWII movies I would ask myself, how the hell did a crazy person like Hitler take control of a country with seemingly intelligent people?!?!?
And here we are again at a crossroad.
I see nothing appealing about Trump. But I guess my gag reflex is more sensitive than you trump supporters. My conclusion as to why you support trump is, because you have the same core values.
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Jul 25 2019 08:22AM     link to this

again can't fucking wait till the new investigations done....not that it will impact your thoughts in any way, but will expose the shady deep state left and even media to the point where some go to jail

few of those lawsuits like covington hs coming to fruition might change some ways...half billion dollars has a way of doing that...maybe look at espn for their new politics policy



ya trumps an asshole-

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Jul 25 2019 08:32AM     link to this

Humor for the day, read "The Deep State" by Jason Chaffetz, it's a bit mind opening.

Either way, he even if impeached that process will be a waste of time as the Senate will not remove him.

Let's wait and see what 2020 brings, as the 20 Democrats debate, which should be absolutely hilarious, just as it was in 2016.

I don't recall this about of obstrucitonism during Obama's years.

Frankly it's time for the House and Senate do what they were elected to do, legislate and govern.

Just my .02 but I don't know anything and I read even less as you pretty much can't trust anything your read or hear anymore.

TA
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Jul 25 2019 08:43AM     link to this

if Cortez is the fresh new face of the Democrat party. They are fucked. in private no one wants what they want. Just look at California. uncontrollable homeless drugs addicts all over many cities. open borders, high income taxes, $4 dollar gas, corrupt state and city unions. These stupid fuckers cant even make money by legalizing weed.
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Jul 25 2019 09:09AM     link to this

another hit and run

that's all they got
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Jul 25 2019 10:44AM     link to this

It's pretty clear what happened here.

Mueller is old and feeble, but the public didn't know that. They recognized him and his name and found him credible. He was used as a straw man to front an operation to unseat a duly elected President of the United States.

Mueller had no control over this investigation. He had no control over the facts, did not interview witnesses, did not set the agenda, and still does not know the fact of the case, has no idea who Fusion GPS is, and cannot answer the most basic of questions. So who was driving this?

Andrew Weissman. Thus guy has a history and is a real crook. Look him up. He has been sanctioned by courts, and his modus operandi is to terrorize and humiliate his targets. His misconduct in the Enron case is heavily documented, destroying the company, and costing 4,500 Americans their jobs, benefits, and in many cases, their retirements.

Peter Strozk. He was fired by Mueller after his text messages about Trump were leaked.

Sure, I am a conservative and support President Trump...

But if you are a Socialist, Democrat, Progressive, etc., you should feel insulted. You were lied to from the beginning, and made to believe that they were going to "get Trump." He would be impeached and thrown from office in disgrace. But it was all based on a lie that they made up. Thy have had you believing that there was "salvation" for the past 2 years. And now, NOTHING. You should be insulted that you were lied to, you were used. And the Democrats don't care, that's what they do. Revolt against these corrupt people. Corruption is always bad -- it's not just an ok thing when it benefits you or your belief system. Eventually it will turn on you -- just ask the people of Venezuela! Respect, love, and revere your rights and freedom, and your free form of government. You already know it, but living under a Donald Trump for 4-8 years is far better than living under a despot like Maduro, the Castros, or Kim Jong Mentally Il for a lifetime.

Get down on your knees, kiss the ground, and thank our Creator for the Founding Fathers who gave us this free system, we owe them a debt of gratitude that can never be repaid!
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Jul 25 2019 11:00AM     link to this

Mueller played Herman Munster in the 70s.
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Jul 25 2019 11:22AM     link to this

very entertaining..thru many people and ways to hear same shit over and over and the libs won't get it...too much hate and DTS going on.

can they watch it...separate their hate of trump and his bad treatment of all brown people crashing the mexican border...even the ones that come from the middle east thru the border? maybe a few that want to inflict some harm on the country and people?? maybe? just takes a few to fly a few planes??


i guess once the IG and other investigation is done we might get a get a few haters acknowledge that the deep state was up to dirty shit. hate trump all you want...the dude was subjected to a deep state conspiracy.




key players on this mueller team are going to be investigated...i would say mueller also, but he looks ready for a dirt nap


how does mueller team let the phones of strzok and page get wiped? how is that possible? what damming shit was on them?

the polling data take was a little more enlightening in this video...you leave out a few key pieces of info and the story takes a brutal 180

the music agent from london setting up meeting with fake premise? most on the lib side leave that out...another 180


btw, what was the main reason cohen went to jail for? key legal infractions? lots of jabs at teh meeting yesterday spewing about it - only talk about the russian deal or stormy fraud lies vs the bank fraud and taxes he cheated on

i am sure we will get more light on that russian deal that did not get done with more investigations

i have no issue whatsoever paying off chicks...that's what rich people do to keep wives happy...bitch took the money and look at the atty that brought it forward?? libs still like and trust that guy? stormy doesn't





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