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rakuen.now
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Locked. No further comments permitted.If conservstive cheats why there have been dead people registered as democrats?
Dec 13 2019 09:46PM more by rakuen.now
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The other thread was locked, but it was literally easier to answer this question than to ignore it. A debunked Fox News article written in 2012 resurfaced in 2018 and made conservative snowflakes express lots of fake outrage.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/53000-dead-florida-voters/

In 2016, Trump accused Democrats of massive voter fraud and even commissioned an investigation, the Presidential Advisory Commission on Election Integrity, to study it. It found NO cases of voter fraud and was forced to disgracefully disband.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/03/us/politics/trump-voter-fraud-commission.html

So the real question is, where do people keep coming up with this shit? I get that Trump hates to lose, but where does the average conservative citizen get off on fangirling for someone padding his own ego?

Serious question.
      
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Detroit51
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Dec 13 2019 09:58PM     link to this

If you repeat a lie often enough, people will believe it. The bigger the lie the more often you need to repeat it, but it still works. The big lie is even easier to pull off if you control the silo of information i.e. Fox News.
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Dec 13 2019 10:01PM     link to this

Pot, meet kettle.
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Dec 14 2019 01:27AM     link to this

“If you repeat a lie often enough, people will believe it.”

Detroit51 is brilliant

Detroit51 is brilliant

Detroit51 is brilliant

Detroit51 is brilliant

Detroit51 is brilliant

Detroit51 is brilliant






Nope.... still don’t believe that lie.

Maybe I didn’t repeat it enough.

Detroit51 is brilliant

Detroit51 is brilliant

Detroit51 is brilliant

Nope. Still don’t believe the lie.

Jiminy.... how many times does it take?


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Dec 14 2019 01:47AM     link to this

WHAT IS THIS BULLSHIT??


Last time I checked the Senate was a separate branch of the government. Mitch McConnell’s vows ‘total coordination’ with White House on Senate impeachment trial. First of all these charges against Trump are serious. More serious than ones against Nixon because they involve having a foreign country dig up dirt on his opponent.
What Mitch McConnell is doing is exactly like having the lawyers representing a defendant in a court case directly coordinating with the jury.
This shit he's about to pull is going to really fuck up future impeachments and holding future President's to account. All you have to do is pander to your base and you have a strangle hold on your party.
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Dec 14 2019 02:08AM     link to this

A weird thing happened. Trump did his usual shtick and people loved the Republican asshole giving it to the dems. The crowds loved the belittling and the meanness directed at dems. It seems trump will never change his behavior. What happens if trump continues to beak the law..? Justice department rules says the president cant be arrested. If they cant remove trump or he wont leave. What happens.?
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Dec 14 2019 02:20AM     link to this

A lawless President doing what ever the fuck he wants by pandering to his base and appealing to their sense of bigotry and distain for others.
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Dec 14 2019 02:23AM     link to this

..........this is like the shit that happens in 3rd world countries that have dictators and its about to happen here.
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Dec 14 2019 05:02AM     link to this

Detroit 51 is Brilliant.

Stu c k in my head dd .. oy
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Dec 14 2019 08:14AM     link to this

The Trump Derangement Syndrome is strong with this thread.
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Dec 14 2019 08:43AM     link to this

Ignorance is bliss!!!!!!
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Dec 14 2019 09:02AM     link to this

Sure love to know what laws were broken
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Dec 14 2019 10:23AM     link to this

Voter fraud exists. Maybe not to the extent Trump indicated, but it does happen.

In local elections, often a handful of votes can determine the outcome. Even ONE fraudulent vote is too many.

We require identification for everything these days.....how about voting?
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Dec 14 2019 01:18PM     link to this

Am i the only one on here that wants to Vomit and shit the bed
everytime Dude spews stank out of that starfish
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Dec 14 2019 01:21PM     link to this

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Dec 14 2019 01:24PM     link to this

#Me2
jazz51
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Dec 14 2019 01:25PM     link to this

Banana republics hold hearings like we just saw....only one side presents witnesses and you can only ask approved questions......so the Third World is the Democrat hearing process.
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Dec 14 2019 01:50PM     link to this

What is the difference between a dead Democrat and a live one?







The answer is below






































yellowB2
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Dec 14 2019 02:40PM     link to this

Oh, I don't know where a stupid idea like voter fraud would come from...

The Kennedys and Chicago, 1960?

25 million illegal aliens and thinking that NONE registered to vote and actually voted?

Maybe stories like this one:
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Dec 14 2019 02:50PM     link to this

Oh yes....Chicago...

Voter early and vote often.....
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Dec 14 2019 04:18PM     link to this

When Trump looses in Nov. next year you can be sure he will call it voter fraud.
I sort of remember when he said the elections were RIGGED!
When he won that magically went away.lol
jazz51
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Dec 14 2019 04:19PM     link to this

But Hillary and all the Dems have been crying about election fraud for 3 years....
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Dec 14 2019 04:57PM     link to this

election fraud and votor fraud aren't the same thing. Two republican states got caught with election fraud in the form of gerrymandering after last election. That is North Carolina and Ohio.

1000 cases of voter fraud is not anything to get seriously worked up about in an election where 100s of millions of people vote. What is worth getting worked up about is the republicans redrawing districts to make sure that they always have a majority even when the people vote overwhelmingly against them.

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Dec 14 2019 04:57PM     link to this

election fraud and votor fraud aren't the same thing. Two republican states got caught with election fraud in the form of gerrymandering after last election. That is North Carolina and Ohio.

1000 cases of voter fraud is not anything to get seriously worked up about in an election where 100s of millions of people vote. What is worth getting worked up about is the republicans redrawing districts to make sure that they always have a majority even when the people vote overwhelmingly against them.

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KaiserSoce
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Dec 14 2019 10:24PM     link to this

‘appealing to their sense of bigotry and distain for others.”

1. I’m pretty sure you meant disdain... although distain does have to do with color, but it doesn’t fit the context.

2. Do bigotry and distain for others have to go together?

3. I have asked this colored guy I met once and he said I ain’t no bigot!

but that I have disdain for some people ain’t no secret!

Dude. What color you be? Since I don’t be knowin... your color has no relation to the disdain I feel for you.
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Dec 15 2019 12:42AM     link to this

You're right its spelled disdain.

Is that what you spend your weekend doing? Pondering on the words and context posted in HX blogs

DISDAIN
The feeling that someone or something is unworthy of one's consideration or respect; contempt.

Disdain for others doesn't have to do with anyones color or race specifically. Trump mocked disable people......showed disdain for them.

Trump mocked Greta Thunberg the other day.......showed disdain towards her.

Trump mocks or shows disdain for people daily, so whats your point? ...Or is there one?

His disdain for others and Bigotry is a huge part of Trump's appeal to many of the people that follow him. They love the a lot of the things he says because they think or believe the same way.
-He tells a Congress women basically she can go back where she came from even though she's an American citizen.
-He says Nazi's are very fine people (after they chanted Jews will not replace us)
-Black football players should be fired for taking a knee. (They have the right to show protest)
ETC.............

His followers like what he says so much they would let him shoot someone on 5th Ave and still vote for him OR they WILL let him off the hook for trying to blackmail a foreign government by holding back on their ad money to get them to dig up dirt on the political rival for the 2020 election.

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Dec 15 2019 03:20AM     link to this

I know this makes me look like you guys. But its the fucking Russians. Geeze, they're driving the clown car. Guess where trump gets his "information" Russian Information warfare operation. Right around the beginning of impeachment everyone on the right went bananas. Old bullshit started popping up. Naked pics of the FLOTUS. Fake photo of trump sitting next to Epstein. It disgusts me when a senator repeats Russian propaganda. They've been briefed about the Russians pushing the lie about Ukraine.
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Dec 18 2019 03:19PM     link to this

Does anyone wonder why they call Trump their "agent" on Russian State television?

Does anyone ever wonder why Republicans repeat propaganda disseminated by the Russians?
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Dec 18 2019 05:05PM     link to this

GOP = Gang of Putinites. Russia is not the most over represented state in the US Congress.
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Dec 18 2019 10:23PM     link to this

Trump could not get away with it this time.
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Dec 19 2019 12:25AM     link to this

Until you have taken away his power to do something again that you didn’t like prior, he can get away with it.
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Dec 19 2019 12:34AM     link to this

Too much talking and not enough fucking.
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Dec 19 2019 04:26AM     link to this

There is massive democratic voter fraud this is a fact you choosing to ignore it doesn't make it true

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Dec 19 2019 06:26AM     link to this

Dude, It appears this is what you do with all of your time. Too lazy to work or even go outside ? Take this ad hominem attack as an insult SFB. A fixed partisan impeachment isn’t exactly good for the country. When the next Democrat is elected we are going to impeach the Motherfucker
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Dec 19 2019 05:29PM     link to this

jojodancer....

Any vote that is fraudulent is something to get worked up about.

Some city elections and propositions are carried by 10-20 votes.

Why is identification such an evil thing with the Dems.....crap, you have to show ID for everything you do these days.
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Dec 19 2019 05:32PM     link to this

because you're not a dem
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Dec 21 2019 12:30AM     link to this

Jazz

You can get worked up about it if you want. My point was it is not common and the numbers aren’t statistically significant in the grand scheme of things. There aren’t people casting fake ballots in droves like the republicans keep trying to say.


A lot more people than you think. This is because it can be a long distance to get to a dmv in some areas. Some people’s work conflicts with the hours. A lot of these people tend to be poor African-Americans and Hispanics.

Passing voter ID laws, while being mostly unnecessary usually ends up disenfranchising these people. It’s not just me saying that, voter id laws have been struck down in three states for that reason. Republicans have been caught saying that’s the whole reason.

It sounds so innocent and I think that’s what’s so insidious about it. Everybody’s first question is “doesn’t everyone have an id?” It’s not that simple.
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Dec 21 2019 06:39AM     link to this

Every eligible voter, regardless of color (or lack thereof), can register to vote by mail. It's easy and to say that African-Americans or Hispanics can't do it is, well, racist. Not to disenfranchise them, but stats show that the lower your economic well being, the less likely you are to vote anyway.

Both parties gerrymander every time they can, neither party has an exclusive on that maneuver.

And, enough with the Russian collusion, Russian election fraud ad nauseam. Sure, the Russians put out disinformation and attempt to affect elections all over the world.....just like the USA does. They did NOT take control of local election apparatus to change the outcome.

Under our system, lying Hillary lost to fat bumbling Donald, fair and square. OP opens the blog wondering why Republicans complain about voter fraud. Meanwhile, there's no louder chorus of voices screaming about voter fraud than Dems about the 2016 election.

You lost, get over it, move on, you got another chance in less than a year. Bring us a better alternative to Trump and you might just win, and thats a pretty low bar so don't fuck up.
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Dec 21 2019 07:45AM     link to this

First, I have to say..... I love Balls! Ok... maybe that was’t the best way to express my affection for the fella who wrote the comment above but... it is what it is.


“And, enough with the Russian collusion, Russian election fraud ad nauseam. Sure, the Russians put out disinformation and attempt to affect elections all over the world.....just like the USA does. They did NOT take control of local election apparatus to change the outcome. “ - Balls


Can we ever stop anyone from preying on the weak minds of the American electorate?

I mean... Carl’s Jr. sold millions of hamburgers by showing guys a girl’s boobs in a tight, low cut shirt.

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Dec 21 2019 07:54AM     link to this

Goballs...

Registering to vote by mail isn�t what we ware talking about. The people are already registered voters. The problem is the extra step of having government ID. Being less likely to vote doesn�t mean you should have your ability to vote taken away.

Both parties gerrymander yes, but it�s usually on a small scale and not coordinated nationally. Republicans knew they could win even though they are the minority if they rigged the system just right so they did.


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Dec 21 2019 08:59AM     link to this

Registration is EXACTLY what we're talking about. That and actually casting ones vote. Whether it should be a requirement of registration and casting of ones vote that you show a state approved ID.

Unless you're OK doing it the Chicago way "vote early and vote often" (not casting aspersions on either party), an ID requirement is a have to. The old shibboleth that people of color don't or can't care enough to get off their ass to get an ID is totally racist. There's plenty of "people of un-color?" who can't be bothered to get an ID either and guess what? They shouldn't be allowed to vote either.

Wanna drink? Wanna drive? Wanna fly? Wanna get into the R rated movie? Wanna use your credit or debit card in certain places? Wanna cash a large check? Send a wire? And, privilege vs. right is a bogus argument.

Arguably, the right to vote is the whole point of this grand experiment, a representative democracy. But, within certain guidelines, each state can set their own rules.

"Since the "right to vote" is not explicitly stated in the U.S. Constitution except in the above referenced amendments, and only in reference to the fact that the franchise cannot be denied or abridged based solely on the aforementioned qualifications, the "right to vote" is perhaps better understood, in layman's terms, as only prohibiting certain forms of legal discrimination in establishing qualifications for suffrage. States may deny the "right to vote" for other reasons. For example, many states require eligible citizens to register to vote a set number of days prior to the election in order to vote. More controversial restrictions include those laws that prohibit convicted felons from voting, even those who have served their sentences. Another example, seen in Bush v. Gore, are disputes as to what rules should apply in counting or recounting ballots.[19]"
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Dec 21 2019 09:06AM     link to this

By the way, once you're registered in CA, you can vote by mail using an absentee ballot.

This means you don't even have to get your no ID broke ass out of the sofa in order to exercise your rights.
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Dec 21 2019 09:58AM     link to this

If anyone is inclined to hear the truth straight from the horse's mouth, feel free to click on the 1st link below and listen.

The horse in this case is the lead counsel for Trump's re-election campaign, Justin Clark. The recording was made one month ago (11/21/19) at a Republican National Lawyers Association event.

In it, Justin Clark starts talking at 5:00. At the 7:40 mark, he talks about how they were able to change party rules in 37 states to benefit Trump. One rule he mentions is that you can't be a delegate in the upcoming election unless they supported the Republican candidate in the previous election. Not a great thing to do in a democracy, but not the worst dirty trick either. It's along the lines of what the DNC tried to do to Bernie Sanders in 2016.

The real bombshell comes at the 19:15 mark, when Clark just comes out and admits that Republicans traditionally suppress the vote. Listen for yourself.

He's not the only one who has admitted this. There have been a few others who have let the cat slip out of the bag over the years. One of them is the House Leader for the State of Pennsylvania in 2012, Republican Mike Turzai, who blatantly admitted that the new Voter ID laws in Pennsylvania would give the election to Mitt Romney in 2012. Those laws were found unconstitutional and struck down 2 years later.

You can watch that video on the 2nd link below.

The Republican party has routinely taken the actions of kicking people off voter rolls, closing polling places in heavily Democratic areas, decreasing the number of ballot booths at polling places to create long lines in heavily Democratic areas, limiting early voting that is particularly popular amongst Black voters (like Sunday voting), ballot design in favor of the Republican candidate, voting machine manipulation, etc. The list is long, public and well-documented.

Voter ID laws are a big part of voter suppression. For those that think it's reasonable to require voters to show ID in order to cast their ballot, you should know that voter fraud doesn't exist. Voter ID laws are a solution to a non-existent problem. The number of documented voter fraud cases is incredibly small (31 cases out of 100s of millions of votes cast from 2000-2014), and in a majority of those cases it was a Republican who was caught doing it. Look it up.

On the flip side, the people who get turned away from casting a ballot because they don't have an ID are largely college students, the elderly, the poor, etc. People who don't own cars, can't get around easily or have IDs from another state because they are going to an out of state college. Studies done by Republicans show that a vast majority of the people affected by Voter ID laws normally vote Democratic. That's why they push for them. It certainly isn't because of some wide spread voter fraud.

lf you want to know the facts, you can. They're out there, waiting to be read.

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Dec 21 2019 10:16AM     link to this


Goballs...

You are fucking hilarious. I know you’re republican so you are trying to give the republicans the benefit of the doubt, but, you’re right. It is absolutely racist. There gerrymandering was struck down because it was racist. They were drawing lines to limit the voting power of minority communities. Voter Id? They discriminated by the types of ids they would accept and by closing dmvs in minority communities making it harder to obtain identification. This is not coincidence. This was the plan. It’s documented and was intentional. I’m not the one just saying this, these things were brought out in court.

I don’t know why you guys always want to pick on Chicago. There are places that are a lot more liberal with a lot less problems and there are places that are a lot more conservative with a lot more.
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Dec 21 2019 10:27AM     link to this

They pick on Chicago because Trump has been mentioning it lately. The voting corruption in Chicago was well documented during the Mayor Daley days, but that was decades ago. It no longer exists. If it did exist, it would be the lead story on FoxNews every day.

It's old trope that some Republicans hang onto to try to distract and justify the shit they're doing. Unfortunately, there are people out there willing to use it to keep their heads buried in the sand and stay tribal.
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Dec 21 2019 10:28AM     link to this

Pot, kettle.
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Dec 21 2019 12:34PM     link to this

Excellent point, socaliam. So well thought out and supported. The depth of your argument makes your point undeniable. And your use of facts and logic, whoo boy, is impressive to say the least.

Meanwhile, in the real world, Republican Trump administration officials backed up by Secretary of State Tillerson and H.R. McMaster say that Trump's belief in the debunked "DNC server being hidden somewhere in the Ukraine" conspiracy theory is because "Putin told me".

Trump got himself impeached in part because he believed something Putin told him. This is yet another example of Trump believing Putin over his own intel agencies. Only this time, it lead to getting himself impeached.

He does stuff like this practically every day, out in the open, on camera, on twitter. But hey, who are you gonna believe? A proven pathological liar and con man or your own eyes and ears.

It's a tough question. Take your time.
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Dec 21 2019 12:41PM     link to this

Here's a link to the above story for your eyes to enjoy.

Make sure to shut off your brain first, though. You wouldn't want to let a little truth slip in.

Seriously, if you're a Trump supporter who wants to continue to be played, don't read what's in the link. This isn't some reverse psychology stuff. I'm deadly serious. If you want to continue to believe in your dear leader and allow yourself to be manipulated against your own best interests, do NOT click on the link.
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