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Jan 4 2020 05:16AM more by KaiserSoce
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I don’t want to be right - Robert O’Niell
      
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Jan 4 2020 05:36AM     link to this

Woke me when it's over
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Jan 4 2020 10:54AM     link to this

President Trump: Iranian terrorist leader Suleimani has been terminated.

Dems: Somehow, Palpatine has returned.
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Jan 4 2020 12:05PM     link to this

Never is it surprising that the critics will say you were wrong.
For those condemning him they enjoy riding the fence.
Someday we'll know who was right and who was wrong.
Perhaps the fence riders might go to Iran and negotiate with the terrorists.
I'm sure they're very objective individuals?
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Jan 4 2020 12:52PM     link to this

Starting another war without congressional approval is wrong. I seriously don’t understand you folk who are happy to enter another war, considering our last war didn’t go so well. The question you have to ask yourself is, was his life worth the countless lives that will be lost in another never ending entanglement in the Middle East? What trump did wasn’t brave it was really really stupid/.
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Jan 4 2020 01:01PM     link to this

Yes, the Iranians have been very civil human beings. They shot down a $200 million U.S. drone, seized a British tanker and kept them for 2 months, blew up a Saudi oil facilities shutting down 50% of their production, and stormed a U.S. Embassy and burned down the Embassy reception building.

They will definitely sit down and negotiate. If you know anything about the Middle East.....it is about who has the power. Show weakness and they eat you for lunch.
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Jan 4 2020 01:10PM     link to this

Before any of that we were in a successful international peace deal that Trump rescinded without cause. If you are too blind to see that this was the plan all along, I don’t know what to tell you.
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Jan 4 2020 01:21PM     link to this

Peace deal...that kicked the can down the road a few years and gave Iran billions to carry out terror....yep, that is a sweet deal for IRAN.....
jojodancer26
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Jan 4 2020 01:24PM     link to this

It was a sweet deal for the world. That’s why it was signed by the EU,China,Russia, France and the UK. The only people that didn’t like it war American Warhawks and the Israeli government. Now they got you repeating their talking points as we enter another endless war.
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Jan 4 2020 01:44PM     link to this

i like the right action, wrong leader comment


so don't stop him from planning the upcoming killings because they will kill people later because of it?

great logic

the dude already killed americans and other people


btw...iran sent rockets into an iraqi base just now to kill americans. be interesting to see if any iraqi people get killed and they still want the americans out...don't think anyone was hurt in this one


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Jan 4 2020 01:53PM     link to this

In search-

We bombed a public airport to kill him.... you don’t think that would piss Iraqis off? Before they stormed the embassy trump had authorized air strikes all over the country. Does that not matter? I wish you guys could see past your nose.
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Jan 4 2020 02:12PM     link to this

Can we detonate the Shahs of Sunset next?

Those folks are annoying as hell and obviously a sleeper cell.
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Jan 4 2020 02:16PM     link to this

The “Peace Deal” that everyone is so broken up about was so one sided it isn’t even funny. It slowed the development of their nuclear program, but that was it, just a delay. Ever stop to think about why Israel was against it? Why this administration pulled out of it? Because we are the two countries those peace loving Iranians are always chanting death to... And that becomes a much scarier proposition in a few years if Iran gets nukes. Oh, and our friendly European and Russian comrades are all making money selling them the equipment to enrich the material, so not really objective partners in the process.
I know. It’s much more fashionable to be anti-Israel in some circles these days, and of course there is still the fact that ORANGE MAN BAD!!!! Please ask yourself this question though. Would you all have your panties in a twist if Obama had made this same decision? Contrary to what some folks are parroting, Obama was was not above droning bad guys left and right. I think there is a good chance he might have authorized the same strike if he were the man in charge.
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Jan 4 2020 02:23PM     link to this

Mike-

The peace deal kept them from developing nuclear weapons. We had a coalition of countries inspecting them at regular intervals to make sure that there nuclear program would never develop into weapons. Every country and every independent organization that was apart of this deal said it was working and iran was complying.

I understand that some of you may not have liked the deal but pulling out of it was probably the worst thing you could do. If you don’t like it why not renegotiate? The only thing that pulling out does is tell the iranians that it was a bad idea to trust us. How else are they supposed to take it?

Both Obama and Bush had opportunities to kill him and they decided against it because it was stupid to start another war. If Bush is smart enough to make that decision what does that tell you about trump.
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Jan 4 2020 02:51PM     link to this

How would we feel if the head of our Joint Chief of staff was planning to kill some Iranians or their supporters or militias. Then the Iranians got word or sensed this would happen soon. Then our General went to Saudi Arabia to whip up support. When he got off the plane he was blown up by an Iranian drone. I doubt if we would be understanding.
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Jan 4 2020 03:09PM     link to this

What @notsofast said.
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Jan 4 2020 03:56PM     link to this

Trump has literally been the biggest liar and most divisive President in reccent memory. Most wondered what will happen in a crisis? Well you seeing that play out. Division in the ranks, what else would you expect.
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Jan 4 2020 04:39PM     link to this

Let's keep this simple, guys. Iran crossed a red line by killing Americans and destroying American property. Soleimani was responsible for what happened to the American embassy in Iraq and was planning larger-scale attacks that would have cost American lives. We needed to let the Iranians know that their escalating behavior was unacceptable, so we hit them hard on the nose. We needed to let the world know that killing Americans and destroying American property is unacceptable, and we are going to do something about it.
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Jan 4 2020 04:48PM     link to this

It's all because of that draft dogger.
Now that's one for the books.
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Jan 4 2020 04:54PM     link to this

Night-

That’s your problem. These things aren’t simple. International diplomacy is hard. Trump eroded any gains we made with Iran and now they have become our biggest adversary. If you only concentrate on the things that happened over the past few days, from only one perspective, it might seem smart to you, but you’d have to block out everything this admin has been doing to provoke these actions.
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Jan 4 2020 05:08PM     link to this

Gains with Iran?

Every time I have seen Iran in the news over the years, its always "Death to America!"

Turn them into a glass parking lot and be done with it.


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Jan 4 2020 05:10PM     link to this

You make it too complicated. Let me give you a historical analogy. Would you say Americans were responsible for the bombing of Pearl Harbor? You can say that FDR and the Americans made the Japanese desperate via the oil embargo and other methods they were using to squeeze the Japanese economy as a response to their militarism oversees. The Japanese tried to negotiate with the Americans, but to no avail. So then they attacked Pearl Harbor. Now would you seriously say that it's too simplistic to blame the Japanese for Pearl Harbor when you put it in context? No, you wouldn't. It doesn't matter what happened previously. The bombing of Pearl Harbor was an inexcusable action that needed to be responded to, no matter what happened previously. Same thing with the Iranians. The death and injuring of Americans, the action against the U.S. embassy in Iraq, and the knowledge that future imminent action against Americans and American property by Suleimani made the actions taken by the U.S. and Trump justifiable, no matter what transpired before. Iraqi behavior was unacceptable and needed to be responded to. Period.
Night-Rider
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Jan 4 2020 05:10PM     link to this

That was for jojodancer26.
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Jan 4 2020 05:14PM     link to this

The right can blame FDR since he was a Democrat. If it wasn't for him World War II would have never happened. Yes this is total horse shit.

What is happening and my previous statement.
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Jan 4 2020 06:00PM     link to this

Guess it was a bad idea to attack our embassy. Let's hope there are no further escalations.
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Jan 4 2020 06:11PM     link to this

Ignorance is such a horrible disease... 8 years of Obama/Butt Boy have fucked this country up beyond anyones imagination...

We will pay for his misdeeds for decades mark my words!
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Jan 4 2020 06:28PM     link to this

No, the Iranians and their leaders are not what the conservative warhawks preach. They were notn angels by any means, but they were open to more and more changes to benefit their country and the region. Much like the former Soviets.

Then Trump came and fucked it all up.

Now we are in a situation that we have taken out a sitting national leader. Not a head of state but a powerful second.
Yes, this man was despicable, capable of barbarity and no one should mourn his loss. But he was also part of an existing government. A government that respects strength, and is respected for its strength by friends and foes alike. There is no way Iran cannot strike back in kind, not without llosing influence and dominance in the region.
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Jan 4 2020 06:40PM     link to this

We’ve been letting the Iranians get away with too much for too long. That is why they began attacking our citizens and property with impunity. If they understand their behavior towards Americans and American property over the past 15 years or so is unacceptable, this exercise was worth it, even if things escalate a bit for a while. No one wants a full scale war.

Trump is recalibrating a relationship where other American leaders have been too soft for too long.
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Jan 4 2020 06:47PM     link to this

SixD: that was a reset worthy of Jim Rome Well done
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Jan 4 2020 08:07PM     link to this

How is war with Iran going to make YOU safer?

Spending tens, hundreds of billions of US taxpayer dollars?

Killing thousands, tens of thousands, maybe more is better than the current situation?

Do you really think we are going to whip the Iranians into compliance? Like the Vietnamese? Like the Koreans? Like the Syrians? Like the Iraqis?

Like the Japanese? Millions of lives lost? Billions and trillions of our money? Are you ok with that? Sending our young men to die. Again.

What Trump did just made you exponentially LESS SAFE.

Trump is an incompetent nitwit. Let me rephrase: The most powerful man in the world is an incompetent nitwit.

This should scare you more than any rightwing lie or conspiracy theory.
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Jan 4 2020 08:17PM     link to this

“We had a coalition of countries inspecting them at regular intervals to make sure that there nuclear program would never develop into weapons.”

Half true... the coalition inspections were limited to sites approved by the Iranians. There were multiple other sites the US and Israel wanted to be inspected and Iran refused to include them. President Obama thought it was better to have a deal in place even if it wasn’t the best.

Israel is the one with the most at risk. Iran has a goal to wipe them off the face of the earth.

Trump believes that having a bad deal isn’t worth having when they get to continue to have uninspected sites and have the sanctions lifted. My understanding is that like North Korea... Iran believes Nuclear weapons are the only things that will give them a formidable voice on the world stage... and the power to deal with their sworn enemies.

I understood President Obama’s reasoning... I also understand President Trump’s.

The Don... you are exactly right... if the shoe was on the other foot, we would be pissed. The reasons there are wars and lesser conflicts are because both sides feel justified. Please know... the only reason more Americans aren’t killed... and killed on US soil is not because they don’t want to... it’s because they can’t. If they could... you, me and the rest of HX would be dead.

And no... I don’t think it is all Iranians. Just the ruling class.

I understand Iran’s hate and fear of the west. I understand their unwillingness to adapt their culture and adopt western values.

I don’t understand their desire to oppress at all costs. I understand where it comes from, I just don’t understand why they can’t see there is a better way.
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Jan 4 2020 08:36PM     link to this

Most of you guys that post here follow the News and Fox Fake News pretty closely, how many of you here had of Qassem Soleimani before this happened?

If he threatened so many Americans why haven't we heard of him before? Why wasn't he a household name??
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Jan 4 2020 08:44PM     link to this

^^^^^ He had a shitty agent
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Jan 4 2020 08:50PM     link to this

Actually in many respects Iran is an advanced country. An energetic peoples interested in advancing themselves. A people who do not want war. An advanced culture with literature and cinema. The last inspections show the nuclear treaty was holding. An issue not much discussed is how the US has tried to strangle their economy thru ever increasing sanctions on oil etc. This provocation has something to do with the rulers stance against the US. From what I have heard from Iranian friends the US has been well liked by many Iranians, young and old. But the killing of their General is pushing them to the side of the Mullahs .
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Jan 4 2020 09:10PM     link to this

He either has a shitty agent or its more Trump distraction bullshit but this time people died!
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Jan 5 2020 09:28PM     link to this

It’s been well reported how we have led the charge on sanctions that have crippled their economy... but we have been doing that for decades, along with the UN and many allies because it has been proven over and over again that Iran is a State Sponsor of Terror. So don’t make it sound like mean old America has no reason to demand the enforcement of sanctions.
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Jan 5 2020 10:10PM     link to this

Dude - shitty people died.
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Jan 6 2020 12:20AM     link to this

"If he threatened so many Americans why haven't we heard of him before? Why wasn't he a household name??"

You reveal your own ignorance, Dude. Not sure what Fox news has to do with since I don't watch it but Soleimani's been reported about for a very long time.
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Jan 6 2020 12:25AM     link to this

True. He’s a central figure if you followed the news about Iran and terrorism.
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Jan 6 2020 06:47AM     link to this

Terminated!
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Jan 6 2020 08:03AM     link to this

And when we all die from a nuke, you can be like “oh wow at least I was a witty cunt on HX”

Fucking jingoistic assholes
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Jan 6 2020 09:51AM     link to this

World Classless, why are you so racist ? The left says they are against racism
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Run Key
All the class of s female wrestler. Clean up that fowl mouth fool
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