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Locked. No further comments permitted.Can a woman be President and can a woman beat Trump?
Jan 15 2020 01:05PM more by DudeLebowski
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This is a very interesting question.....
Personally I do think a woman can be President and a woman can beat Trump.
Im just not too sure the women running for President now on the Democratic side can do either.

I will personally like to see anybody as President other that Trump but realistically Im not convinced Elizabeth Warren or Amy Klobuchar can win.
      
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Jan 15 2020 01:25PM     link to this

Of course and no. Any more questions Commie ?
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Jan 15 2020 01:30PM     link to this

Neither can win and we all should be glad they won't.....not with their crazy ideas.
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Jan 15 2020 02:25PM     link to this

The male candidates dont stand a chance either...

Nice to see someone on the left suggest that at least right now Trump looks like a winner in Nov.

And the shocking thing here is we are in the middle of "Impeachment" which was damn close to being outright dimissed.

Maybe it's better to keep a few Dem candidates tied up in senate trial and finally give due process to the accused.
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Jan 15 2020 02:42PM     link to this

And dont forget that Hillary lost in 2016 which sparked the intense hatred from the left very day Trump was sworn in.

None of the bullshit lies or conspiracies the Left throws at him sticks... because it insignificant bullshit.

Time to let congress do work for the people because to date they are obstructing progress of the greater good of the people.
jazz51
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Jan 15 2020 02:52PM     link to this

jackrabbit....AMEN!!!!!
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Jan 15 2020 03:27PM     link to this

I hope Warren wins so I get my portion of the 2% tax on the top 1%. What I don’t get is how student loan forgiveness benefits low income families. Those families are getting free money and don’t have student loans
DudeLebowski
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Jan 15 2020 04:01PM     link to this

Either one of those chicks would make a better President than Trump.
I just don't think they can win tough with an electoral college victory.
They would likely get more votes than Trump just like Hillary did but thats not winning.
If a woman didn't win last time against Tump they shouldn't elect a different women to run against him again this time. Thats just not smart.
DudeLebowski
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Jan 15 2020 04:16PM     link to this

This isn't the time to be experimenting with a woman candidate or a minority candidate or any gay guy married to a man.Trump has to be beaten. I know Warren is going to be strong and I think Republicans are sending Bearnie money cause they think he will loose to Trump too.

Joe Biden has to be the nominee out of this field.

Bloomberg needs to make more of a push too.

I don't get that Tom Steyer dude. I liked his commercials but when I was watching them I never thought he was using them to ultimately run for president. I thought he was an activist with a lot of money. I don't get him. He was a wasted space a the debates.
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Jan 15 2020 04:18PM     link to this

The only one on the left who has a shot at the popular vote is Biden. Long shot with the Electoral College.

The problem for the Democrats will be turnout. None of the current candidates are inspiring/engaging. They will always get their faithful 30-35% then there is the other 7-10% that will always vote blue... if you can get them to show up. They did for Obama. Didn’t for Hilary.

Every Trump supporter will be voting in November. He will get his share of middle voters. Without Us falling into recession... Trump will be HARD to beat.


To the original question....

1. A woman can win.

2. Liz and Amy ain’t the wimmins to do it.
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Jan 15 2020 04:26PM     link to this

I almost thought the world was coming to an end, I actually agreed with dude's first premise
then the anti trump came out
DudeLebowski
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Jan 15 2020 04:36PM     link to this

^ Not looking for you to agreed. If you believe in Trump we will never agreed^
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Jan 15 2020 04:45PM     link to this

Candace Owens would dominate a debate with any of the Dems...
I'd like to see her in the Senate and naked too.
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Jan 15 2020 05:24PM     link to this

I actually think AOC is a hot chick if shes not talking
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Jan 15 2020 05:26PM     link to this

I am with you, Angler.....she looks pretty good with clothes....wonder what is underneath....
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Jan 15 2020 05:37PM     link to this

My problem with Warren is that she is condescending, petty and dug herself into a hole with policies that appeal to a base. In that regard, she is like Trump. Her only problem: liberals are too smart for that shit. The unprincipled right will always be kissing Trump's feet, but I have a feeling a number of moderates and others in the liberal alliance will just opt to stay home instead of being energized to vote.
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Jan 15 2020 06:00PM     link to this

No, I don't want to participate in such 'conversations.'

I'll look at the PERSON, what they've done and maybe a little about what they want to do - because they usually don't do it.
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Jan 15 2020 08:26PM     link to this

Israel choose a Female head of state in 1969
India choose a Female head of state in 1973
And U.K. elected first female ........:....

So on and on
But Saudi Arabia never elected a female head and we are debating in 2020 if female can lead Great point for greatest country in world lol 😂
BTW we even elected crybaby eunuch in 2016 so what left lol 😂
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socaliam
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Jan 15 2020 08:29PM     link to this

Not what, who.

WHO do you suggest?
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Jan 15 2020 08:32PM     link to this

Of course a woman can be president.

Can any woman currently running beat Trump. Not likely, and jeez I sure hope not.

Liz Warren can almost make Hilary look honest and that ain’t easy.
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Jan 15 2020 08:51PM     link to this

“Candace Owens would dominate a debate with any of the Dems“

Lololololololololololololol

If you think Candice Owens is smart, I really worry about you. Then again you probably think trump is honest , so you gotta be a whole moron.

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Jan 15 2020 09:27PM     link to this

https://youtu.be/7_lo3yiZd2k
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Jan 15 2020 09:30PM     link to this

I for the life of me why anyone can look themselves in the mirror and pledge their allegiance to President Donald Trump! How can you possibly follow a man who lies incessantly every day totally disregards the constitution which he gave an oath to uphold and defend. Crane_op if you for one minute think that Donald Trump can stay president until 2054 then we should have no reason not to ask Obama to run for president again how would you like that!
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Jan 15 2020 09:45PM     link to this

The only Dem woman I think that would have a real shot to win right now would be Michelle Obama and she will never run for President.

SHE could beat Trump!
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Jan 15 2020 10:09PM     link to this

I like Michelle but I don’t think we should run someone without any experience in government. Tammy duckworth would be my pick. Progressive, lost an arm and a leg in war and is extremely likable. Only problem is not many know her name
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Jan 15 2020 10:16PM     link to this

Sixd-

How many bankruptcies and failed businesses does it take to qualify for president?
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Jan 15 2020 10:17PM     link to this

Warren is a waste of oxygen. Her "plans" are intellectually incoherent and completely untenable. If i ever need an old fashioned school marm to rap my knuckles with a ruler, Liz will get the call.

Apparently, the fact that socialism has essentially flat lined as a political system over the last 50 years somehow escaped Bernie. Not surprising for someone who honeymooned in Moscow and is currently the leading Maduro apologist.

Biden is the only one with a shot in 2020.

Klobuchar, a woman (+1) with a very successful legislative record (+1) would make the best president of the group. She has a couple of negatives though. She's an attorney (-1) with a mean streak (-1). Given that she voted 31% in line with Trump's position on legislation, its no surprise that she's trailing as Bipartisanship is a four letter word.

Speaking of 4 letter words, cunt is appropos for Steyer, a hedge fund guy who made bundles on fossil fuel investments and now hates oil & gas.

Bloomberg waits in the wings as savior, if the effluvia strikes the whirling blades.

Gun to my head? Klobuchar, but she won't get the nomination.
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Jan 15 2020 10:22PM     link to this

Balls-

Where has universal health care flatlined?

Where has free public university flatlined?

I would say our current system of undertaking the rich is failing most Americans. I would say our current capitalist healthcare system is failing. I would say our current university system of leaving students with tremendous debt is failing.

That socialism line is intellectually lazy.
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Jan 15 2020 10:29PM     link to this

There was one Sarah palin she could she Russia from her backyard lol
DudeLebowski
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Jan 15 2020 10:31PM     link to this

"Her "qualifications" are being married to the least qualified President ever."

What were Trumps qualifications to be President of the United States?
Having a reality show, bankrupting a casino, swindling people out of 20 million dollars with a fake real estate university?
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Jan 15 2020 10:54PM     link to this

Jojo
Your conflation of those specific items with a political system is mystifying and requires more time than I'm willing to devote tonite.

Suffice to say that we have 2 universal health care systems operating in the US, the VA and the Indian Health system. Both are infamous for delivering substandard care.

Given the existing devil's pact between the Federal govt. loan program and the schools benefiting from it, you're suggesting even more carte blanche thereby hanging taxpayers up by the balls with an even larger tab? Warren will love you when her salary hits $500,000/yr for showing up once a week for class. By the way, shall I send in the invoice for my old college bills that I paid for?

The good news is that since 20% of taxpayers pay 86% of all taxes, youll have soaked the rich just a little more. Bernie and Liz would be proud.
Another time, nos vemos al rato
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Jan 15 2020 11:02PM     link to this

“I for the life of me why anyone can look themselves in the mirror and pledge their allegiance to President Donald Trump!”

That’s the problem... all you guys are looking for someone to whom you can, “Pledge Allegiance.”
My allegiance goes as far as the next issue.

Trump is a selfish, egotistical, untrustworthy blow hard. So what does it say that he is currently the best choice available?

When he does something I like, I’ll say I like it. When he is a doofus... I’ll say that too.

Like today, that China deal is a really good deal... if the Chinese honor it. Good Job Mr. President.

What sucks is it’s only a 2 year deal. Hmmmmm... I wonder why? It couldn’t be that it’s as much a campaign aid as it is a trade deal... could it? Smart! But Self serving. Doofus.

Give these clowns 🤡. Your vote. Not your heart. If you give them your heart... then you have to defend them even when you know they are wrong.
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Jan 15 2020 11:17PM     link to this

A woman can't beat bone spurs.
Of course a woman can be President.....just not Shillary's corrupt ass. The Dems were stupid when they tried to play kingmaker. They were also too fucking arrogant....and it bit them in the ass.

The Democrats got gamed hard, and they are just now starting to realize how badly they have been getting played over the years by catering to SJWs and identity politics. Democrats arrogance and ignorance have left this country absolutely FUCKED for generations. The reality will start to hit in the not too distant future, and of course the idiot trumpanzees will blame everyone but themselves for their fuck ups.

Trumpanzees have their own problem. In their own little fantasy world of alternative facts, they are absolutely fucking clueless as to how much people truly hate them....and I mean absolutely loathe them. They think it's cute. They think they are "owning the libs". Their problem is that they call everyone but themselves libs and they spew their lies, hatred, and "alternative facts" on EVERYONE. THAT includes other Republicans who still have a spine and morals.....and ALL of the Independent and non-party affiliated voters. Their purpose in life is to make enemies and force people to do their will while laughing about it the whole time.

The GOP has done NOTHING but centralize around bone spurs, play mental gymnastics to kiss his ass, and basically gone into a scorched earth policy forsaking ALL others....including members of their own party. The GOP is only 25-30% of the electorate. Which is also true of the DNC. That means that there is 40+% of the electorate that are swing voters. Remember them...all those people that trumpanzees call un-American sub-human scum that need to be purged from America so they can MAGA? How do you think THEY....the swing voters that trumpanzees love to hate..are going to vote?

Have the MAGAts reached out to that 40% of the electorate in ANY way? Have they done ANYTHING to work with anyone that isn't on the tRump train? The answer is laughably NO. They haven't done a damn thing to win new voters and sway people's opinions in ANY way. (this is where they they start spewing bullshit fox, oan, and RWM talking points)

They forget that a great number of people voted for bone spurs ONLY because they hated Shillary. OR the HUGE number of people that didn't even vote because they hated both candidates so much. Once the "I hate Hillary" vote is gone....where does that leave bone spurs and the trumpanzee minions?

It leaves them still spewing hatred at 70+% of the electorate including voters they NEED to win....
Desperately trying to rile up another hate vote campaign against a bunch of boring vanilla candidates who are NOWHERE near as decisive as Shillary...
Praying that they have gerrymandered, "voter suppressed", rigged the vote, and purged enough voter roles that the electoral college will save them again...
And bending over backwards to break their own rules and suppress challengers to tRumps pathetic ass in the primaries.

Biden is boring..... But as hard as they are trying trumpanzees can't make people hate him more than tRump
Bernie is crazy... None of the shit he promises will EVER get through congress, but outside the GOP people don't hate him
Warren.... Let's be real... NEVER gonna happen... she's the female Bernie see above.
Mayor Pete... If he was straight with a beautiful wife and child, tRump wouldn't stand a chance... but we know why he isn't a serious contender.
Bloomberg... Too late in the game to be a contender now.

2020 isn't about choosing the lesser of two evils
It's about an amoral treasonous lying scumbag vs a somewhat rational human being.
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Jan 15 2020 11:20PM     link to this

Balls-

Bernie isn’t talking about eliminating capitalism and going full socialist. That’s my point.

There are many dem socialist parties that work in capitalist governments. The vast majority of those countries aren’t failing even when you only focus on the ones led by dem socialists.

The VA provides better healtcare on average than private hospitals. Is there room for improvement? Definetly, but it’s still better than the majority of private healthcare.

Just because you overpaid for school doesn’t mean we need to keep having our children do the same.

Why do you care about rich people so much? Life has gotten easier for them over time as wealth has left the lower and middle classes, and entered their pockets. Yet you worry about there taxes? Either you are rich or a house slave. In either case your opinion is pretty selfish.

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Jan 15 2020 11:30PM     link to this

Single payer healthcare and 4 more years of paid public education (for those that have the grades) isn't going to turn America into a banana republic dictatorship masquerading as "socialism". Don't worry little rednecks, walmart will still take your money and give it to China, and the oil companies will still take your money to pay off the same countries that produce terrorists that want to kill you.

Getting healthcare under control doesn't mean the government is coming to take over your ice cream truck.
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Jan 15 2020 11:31PM     link to this

Stixie- Pete is trash. Couldn’t win a statewide seat, won southbend with 17000 votes, hated by the black community and he’s a square. I have no idea how he got this far.
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Jan 15 2020 11:32PM     link to this

Stixie... sorry.... your conclusion is wrong. You don’t have to win over the “swing” voters. You just have to make them stay home.

Trumps folks are going to show up in force.

None of the opponents generate enough passion to get people off the couch.

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Jan 15 2020 11:35PM     link to this

White
Male
Educated and well spoken
Veteran with a good military record
Middle of the road.

Believe it or not to A LOT of people shit like that matters.
What might not play well in his district.....works in other places
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Jan 15 2020 11:38PM     link to this

Stixie-fair

Kaiser- if you don’t think people are motivated to get trump out of there, you are crazy.
stixie
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Jan 15 2020 11:43PM     link to this

KS...you aren't taking the hate vote into account. Which is straight out of the republican playbook.

Keep lying, pissing people off, and telling them that they are worthless and hate their country because they don't agree with you.

Apparently you think that what motivated trumpanzees won't motivate anybody else.
You honestly think that the way you people act doesn't motivate people to stand against you?
If you do...you're more delusional than the liberals.
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Jan 15 2020 11:48PM     link to this

When "hoping they stay home" is a campaign strategy......

Hatred of Shillary motivated trumpanzees to "come out in force".
Do you guys actually think you OWN that shit?

And I though the Democrats were arrogant..... DAAAAMMMNN
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Jan 16 2020 01:42AM     link to this

It doesn't matter who the Dems put up there people are going to be sleeping at the polling sites the night before to vote against Trump's ass if he's still even there in Nov. and Lev Parnas/Rudy G's shit doesn't sink his ship.

Image if theres something funky with the election this year like there was with Florida and Bush v Gore.
That could start a civil war! Seriously.....
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Jan 16 2020 02:02AM     link to this

Something funky like your guy loses?
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Jan 16 2020 03:14AM     link to this

Generally, negative thoughts demotivate a person from going out to vote. Positive ones motivate. "Make America Great Again" was a positive for many people who voted for Trump. Getting conservative justices was another one, for religous folk. It was these ideas that helped Trump win.

What was Hillary's slogan? I forgot it. That's representative of why she lost.

What positivity to the Dems have? Does ol' sourpus Bernie Sanders have? "Pay their fair share?" Yeah, real positive.

"Keep America great" still wins, and that's why Trump will win again.
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Jan 16 2020 04:03AM     link to this

Dude please Make America Great (Again) like American is not great. I agree we need to make America great again after Trump is out of office. The Presidency hasn't been this low since Nixon.
The Dude was IMPEACHED! Only the 3rd person to be impeached. Keep a look out for Lev Parnas as he spills his guts on CNN with Anderson Cooper later today.

Btw Make America Great Again has turned into #MAGA which only promotes hate and negativity on the internet.
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Jan 16 2020 05:40AM     link to this

I think you are over reading the Trump hate vote. He truly has those who hate him... and they will come out and vote ... but most people are apathetic.
In 2016 EVERYONE was surprised. The left was outraged because they over read the “dumb/unqualified” voters. Meaning, “I think he is dumb and unqualified... I heard it on TV. Everyone agrees with me.” It wasn’t even close to “Everyone.” Hence the shock and outrage.

The reality is, the People who hate Trump with a passion are loud about it... but most (like my SO) don’t care. Most say to themselves, “I have a few more dollars in my pocket. My retirement fund is doing well. I don’t want anyone messing with MY healthcare. I hear about how Trump is ruining America... but my life hasn’t been affected. I am in a little better place than I was 4 years ago. I heard the crazy white-haired guy is communist or socialist or something... I don’t know. The lady is promising a lot of free stuff, but how can it be free? Joe Biden, I know that name. He was the Vice President with Obama... but He isn’t Obama. Ehhhh. I don’t know. Whatever. I’ll let them (others) decide.”

Remember, the Republicans aren’t doing ANY Trump media buys right now. After the conventions come this summer and the Democrats choose their candidate... the fight begins. Unless something significant happens... (Recession) that actually impacts people, they will just stay home.

3 million people a day watch CNN and MSNBC. I don’t think the loudest voices represent the most voices. Most people just don’t care.

Those who care... really care. Most don’t care enough to go vote.

Oh yeah... and like in 2016 ... we won’t be able to trust polls because the rage against Trump is intimidating to the “I don’t care enough”voters.
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Jan 16 2020 06:25AM     link to this

Trump won because of Hillary.

If he loses it'll be because of Trump.
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