STEVE BANNON is right on the money. Trump is a son of a gun and That is what we need. CHINA IS A HUGE PROBLEM! that's why a skeptical republican president need to be in charge.
Sanders has praised China many times.. and JOE...well
https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/03/joe-biden-is-chinas-choice-for-president/
There's been a big push by the Chinese to ban those markets for a decade.
MERS came from the middle east. Influenza? Don't get me started on Influenza variants. We've got several originators in the USA. Damn those Americans! Pandemic of 1918 started in Europe. Damn those Europeans!
We've got periodic risks of Yersinia pestis from prairie dogs in the mid-west. Farming practices with anti-biotics occasional transfers to wild life increasing the chance of a MDR, XDR or TDR grade Yersinia. Couple that with an highly contagious variant? Bamn, Black Plague in the mid-west. Now we'd be the bad guys.
If you want to play bad China talk about Territorial theft and IP theft instead.
HCoV-OC43 2001 France. Gave you a cold. Most often Coronaviruses aren't even newsworthy unless you're a virologist because you've probably been exposed to dozens or more in your life time--as a cold.
Still if you want to go earlier? Most Recent Common Ancestor(MRCA) for Coronaviruses is currently ~8,000 BCE
https://jvi.asm.org/content/87/12/7039
I'm sure the MRCA will be pushed back further as time goes on, there aren't that many people out there with the time,funding and experience to do the work.
Hey if you really want to point fingers like I said before dinosaurs are the guilty party for influenza. We should prevent dinosaurs from entering the United States.
to stop going to free market to buy live animal, then take it home, mix it with other live stock, then slaughter it improperly, and cook it improperly.. ETC
I heard they have 200 different species of animal they eat at market.
I think its time to stop doing business, travel, and trade with these cavemen aliens
I blame this on Foxnews. They should've advised Trump that this coronavirus is real instead of saying this is another attempt to impeach Trump.
If Trump got the message that this shit is for real, then all borders would've been shut tight and no fucking incubation period for anyone to come in.
Why is South Korea, a nation jam packed with a sophisticated subway system and mass transit system able to contain the virus? Because they were warned and turned into action fast. And they listened to the Chinese to shut this shit off tight.
Trump didn't listen. Now the market has tanked and he has to blame someone. Don't forget, the coronavirus is an American virus. It was patented here in the United States.
And them Chinese has been eating and cooking that shit for hundreds of years and you never heard of an outbreak. So for some reason, 2 years after we "discovered" this virus, the Chinese catches it right when we were finalizing Phase 1 of the trade deal and the outbreak happens smack in the middle of China's biggest Central City in Wuhan with 60 million population where all trains stopover.
And the timing of the mass outbreak happens right at the Chinese new year when everyone is on the move.
Well, shit, talk about good timing. Whoever predicted this should've won the lottery. And them Chinese are so fucking crazy that they will poison their own people with the virus and tank their economy just for fun right. And with the type of tight security and experience of SARS that almost destroyed Hong Kong that they would allow this to happen and spread because someone cooked the bats wrong when they have been doing that for hundreds of years?
This shit is so overblown that it could've been prevented like the regular flu. Our type -B influenza flu killed off 6000 Americans in 2019. Corona only got 100.
Calm the fuck down. We got them Chinese the flu just as bad and you don't hear them bitch about it.
This is all done by the libs and short sellers who are tanking the market by creating chaos. Mass hysteria is like human stupidity, you can't cure it.
I'm sorry you're losing money in the market
I'm sorry you're losing your mind
Mostly, I'm sorry you've gone full retard
It's a waste of time refuting all the stupid in your post but let's start with just a few basics:
There is no American patent on this version of coronavirus as according to epidemiologists, it's a unique mix of RNA virus fragments that passed thru a bat and a pangolin in a wet market in Wuhan China.
Your inability to understand this simple part calls into question your entire rant.
It's Fox
It's Trump
It's the liberals
It's the short sellers
This is the only correct thing you wrote:
"Mass hysteria is like human stupidity, you can't cure it."
You, my friend, are hysterical and not in a funny (ha ha) kinda way.
I’m amazed at how reactionary and irrational people can be.
The idea that Trump didn’t take it seriously until 2 days ago shows why Trump has been effective as President.
Dumbfucks listen to what he says... but don’t watch what he does... which often contradict what he says.
Why? Because people freak out and hoard stupid shit like toilet paper.
He has always known the scary reality. He has a million times more information than you do. He was just trying to delay the stupid sheep mentality from taking full effect.... that would cause retards to spend all their savings buying water.
This is amazing. Almost zero percent interest and now helicopter money? And stocks STILL tanking?? LOL!!! Dumbass Trump ignored shit for so long and you Boomer dumbasses still eating the shit pellets falling out his back side huh?
The smart person thing to do woulda been to do what South Korea did and take shit seriously from the get go. You know what’s sad? It’s that test kits are being delayed so that Kushner’s brother’s firm can be the one to manufacture and distribute them, nevermind the tests already made by other companies and not us because if Trump and friends aint making money then fuk you.
Tbh tho I’m not worried about the virus so much as this new economic shit happening because of it. Most ppl are gonna be out partying getting their asses wiped like the clueless grandma killers they are but this shit is different. This is the crazy I’m interested in now
Look at the S&P, DOW are at two year lows and the NASDAQ 100 at only a one year low. People are going to start losing jobs left and right and are going to start drawing down their equities.
Have doubts?? Look at concrete domestic macro indicators like the TED spread, bond credit spreads, the yield curve...They're the real leading indicators plotting out the course further out in time....not these daily percentage drops and gains in big indices or futures markets. Nope. These indicators are ALL signaling worse things to come.
It’s going to be a black swan moment. The US is so far behind what's happening in Europe with this virus shit..and it ain’t over. This isn’t 2008 when we had huge ass banks doing retarded shit. This isn’t a liquidity and credit crisis in the financial system. All this shit is the start of an event that will cause damage to the real economy. Just Sunday we all saw a ridiculous monetary intervention that has done absolutely jack shit to stave off that damage. Contrast that to 2008 when the TED Spread collapsed when the Fed announced major intervention.
It will require, as is happening in Europe, FISCAL stimulus no wait a minute……….. we are all getting stimulated. BTW did you dumbass Trumpers know that the Dems brought this out as an option LAST week but only THIS week did dumbass offer it up as an option after he was like ‘oh shit the zero interest loans WEREN’T enough!?!’ LOL. You idiots probably praised his deep thinking and wondrous insight lol. Doesn't matter though because we are all gonna be fucked for a while, just hope those pink socks don’t turn into hemorrhoids lol
What's worse is the Fed has exhausted all of its resources. The fed pulled out it's ultimate trap card and stocks still went to shit. IF (let’s be real, WHEN) this crisis develops into a crisis of credit, which is likely if even just a few major businesses go bankrupt or default on their debt (as you all know, there's an insane amount of junk/near junk bonds outstanding atm), then the Fed will have nothing left.
i hope they have a repayment option for all this money and not gone forever
for individuals....10 year repayment option that starts in 3 years. if we get 1000 bucks? 100 per year owed additionally on your taxes...zero interest. or whatever the amount is
same with corp's - put a preferred debt with zero interest for 5 years and rising interest at stages over the following 20-25 years for payback.
company goes under? we get the money back or partially when everything is sold off
"The idea that Trump didn’t take it seriously until 2 days ago shows why Trump has been effective as President"
Dude Im not surprised your shill ass posted this dumb shit.
TRUMP KNEW A PANDEMIC WAS POSSIBLE IN THE US WHEN HE TOOK OFFICE AND DID NO PREPARATION. The Ebola crisis was big prelude in 2015 when he was running for President. You're taking about a man that cut money to the CDC. One of the reasons so many people weren't taking this serious is because of Trump and his bullshit.
1) He said corona virus was a hoax by the Democratics
2) He said it was only 15 people sick and it will go away.
3) He said he has it under control
4) Then he says its a pandemic and he knew it at the beginning
Trump's bullshit is mind numbing and it makes people just tune out.
He has spend 3 years trying to divide everyone now he's trying to unite people
.....the dude just needs to go. Be voted out and go.
Hopefully their won't be 1 million people dead by the time of the election.
If you look at the video, and if it's true --- which it illustrated perfect logic to me...
As long as there are " Wet Markets " in China, there will be an endless amount of new viruses
which originate in China, and will have the propensity to be carried worldwide...
I surmise that this is just the beginning to a very different protocol than we have all experienced in the past... It's a real game changer for sure...
The reason the Chinese are to blame is because this pandemic was completely preventable. When you have wet markets of live chickens and pigs mixing with exotic wildlife, it creates a great opportunity for viruses to spread from animals to other animals and eventually to human beings. China outlawed the sale of exotic wildlife for this purpose finally at the end of January.
The logic isn't what people eat but how we are upping the anti-biotics to the point were the research is slower than the mutations from the virus.
Virus will always mutate the but catalyst isn't just these so called wet market, its the anti-biotics we inject into the meat and our daily foodstuffs to create an environment causing an acceleration of mutant virus so potent that our strongest anti-biotics couldn't catch up.
I suppose every wet market on earth operate similar ways for hundreds of years but you don't see this type of trans-mutations until recently.
Its our own making in America. WE had to have to overkill a simple cold with the strongest and craziest drugs prescribed by incompetent and greedy doctors in cahoots with big pharma so they can get their seasonal kickbacks and free trips.
Our own medical and healthcare system created this monster. So stop blaming everyone else. Get to the root of the problem. Its freaking us.
And don't forget that we are the ones outsourcing all the critical industries to everywhere else. So when its time to make N95 masks, only China, Korea and Germany have the capacity to make them fast and efficiently. Its stupendous. All this happened until Clinton, Bush and Obama. Trump tried but he didn't succeed with this ridiculous phase I bullshit trade agreement. So Trump is to blame as well.
Face it, we are on a decline. China is already in recovery mode. And our problem is just starting.
Actually, the Spanish Flu from 1918 started in Kansas.
And yes, if an outbreak starts anywhere that was preventable due to commonly-practiced human behavior, people who practice these behaviors are responsible. This time, since these wet markets are so prevalent in China, you can say it was the Chinese who did this.
Maybe it will be easier to swallow this fact after millions of people die from Coronovirus.
"We should prevent dinosaurs from entering the United States." from above, Pem, its way to late for that the GOP is here to stay, they hate science and critical thinking.
"When you have wet markets of live chickens and pigs mixing with exotic wildlife, it creates a great opportunity for viruses to spread from animals to other animals and eventually to human beings."
I see cgem — or should I say the Chinese secret service — is back spreading more disinformation. Last time he (or she?) spread lies about the poor people from Hong Kong trying to get out from under Beijing’s thumb.
This time he states that it’s the use of antibiotics causing this. Bullshit. The science journal Quanta talks about the origin of these viruses in humans: “MERS-CoV and SARS-CoV appear to originate in animals, and the same is likely true of SARS-CoV-2. This makes them zoonoses, diseases that can jump between humans and other animals. MERS-CoV and SARS-CoV were originally bat viruses that spread to an intermediate animal (camel and civet cat, respectively), which then exposed humans to the viruses. Genetic analysis of SARS-CoV-2 sequences shows that their closest genetic relatives appear to be bat coronaviruses, with the role of intermediate species possibly played by the pangolin, an endangered species trafficked in China for its scales and meat. There are four coronaviruses that cause colds in humans — known as HCoV-229E, HCoV-NL63, HCoV-OC43 and HCoV-HKU1 — and these also seem to have zoonotic origins.”
“And don't forget that we are the ones outsourcing all the critical industries to everywhere else.“
Not for long. The lesson the United States is going to learn is you can’t depend on China anymore to do that sort of thing. The Chinese economy will never recover.
Where did the 2009 H1N1 flu virus come from?
The 2009 H1N1 influenza virus (referred to as “swine flu” early on) was first detected in people in the United States in April 2009. This virus was originally referred to as “swine flu” because laboratory testing showed that its gene segments were similar to influenza viruses that were most recently identified in and known to circulate among pigs. CDC believes that this virus resulted from reassortment, a process through which two or more influenza viruses can swap genetic information by infecting a single human or animal host.
"Virus will always mutate the but catalyst isn't just these so called wet market, its the anti-biotics we inject into the meat and our daily foodstuffs to create an environment causing an acceleration of mutant virus so potent that our strongest anti-biotics couldn't catch up."
@cgem, you are officially in a tie for stupidest dumb fuck of the year with Dood.
There is no evidence for your supposition and anti-biotics are Anti-bacterial NOT Anti-viral.
Are you a plant from some Chinese secret service?
If not, I suggest you get a good lawyer and sue your school for malpractice then sue your parents for passing on damaged genes.
“The evidence of China’s deliberate cover-up of the coronavirus outbreak in Wuhan is a matter of public record. In suppressing information about the virus, doing little to contain it, and allowing it to spread unchecked in the crucial early days and weeks, the regime imperiled not only its own country and its own citizens but also the more than 100 nations now facing their own potentially devastating outbreaks. More perniciously, the Chinese government censored and detained those brave doctors and whistleblowers who attempted to sound the alarm and warn their fellow citizens when they understood the gravity of what was to come.”
COVID-19 appeared in Wuhan, a city in China, in December 2019. Although health officials are still tracing the exact source of this new coronavirus, early hypotheses thought it may be linked to a seafood market in Wuhan, China. Some people who visited the market developed viral pneumonia caused by the new coronavirus. A study that came out on Jan. 25, 2020, notes that the individual with the first reported case became ill on Dec. 1, 2019, and had no link to the seafood market. Investigations are ongoing as to how this virus originated and spread.
The first case reported doesn’t necessarily mean he or she was the first one to acquire the virus. 28 of the first 41 people found with the novel Coronavirus HAD significant links to the wet market. The Coronavirus is a particular kind of virus that passes from animals to humans. The market is the ideal place for this to happen.
Six degrees of separation is the idea that all people are six, or fewer, social connections away from each other. Also known as the 6 Handshakes rule. As a result, a chain of "a friend of a friend" statements can be made to connect any two people in a maximum of six steps.