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Darwin is thinning the herd.
Never have ANY electrical appliance close to water. How many people have to die like this before everyone wakes up.....
But so many people are tied to their phones...can't be without even during charging...
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Ive seen girls have there phones on the edge of bath tubs before. Especially in hotels.
They don't realize if something is plugged into the wall its dangerous. Even if it as small as a phone.
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Yes. that cord is a direct link to electrical current that will flow easily in water.
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I’m shocked! Shocked, I say!
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I'm calling Bull Shit. The voltage applied to charge a phone is only 5 volts DC. Not enough to even feel the it.
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It only takes 7 milliamps to cause the heart to go into defibrillation. Path of electricity is key, NOT the voltage or amperage.
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Here are a couple of links.....
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It has to pass through the epidermal layer of skin. Before it's lethal.
Plus fresh water is a poor conductor of electricity.
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Women often use bath salts to soak in a tub.
After a long period of time in a bath, the skin gets 'saturated'....allowing for that conduction.
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Read the links...you can keep fighting whether it can or cannot happen....
Why don't you purchase a third party charger from China, soak in a salt bath for an hour and drop your phone in the tub while plugged in....then you can prove it can't happen....LOL.
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Electricity will follow the path of least resistance. The + and - terminals are right next to each other.
In order to zap the lady she would have to have been between the terminals.
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I'm still calling Bull Shit!
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The cord could short....remember, you are using a cheap charger from a third world country.
Like I said,.....do the experiment I outlined and then come back and report.....
Why would you even take a fucking one in a million chance. There are lots of variables....I will err on the side of safety...but hey, knock yourself out and believe it physically cannot happen.
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Jazz, is it really that important that Walker believes?
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Fresh water is not a good conductor? You may want to do a little more research because you sound a bit misinformed. I think you mean “distilled” water. Which would never be coming from a tub faucet.
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Lou...I am trying to egg him into doing the experiment, since he is so absolutely certain it cannot happen. LOL.
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40 years as a licensed commercial electrician.
So suck my dick, you will gag.
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I hope they are able to recover the selfies
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Like I said, fill the tub with salt water, use a cheap charger that might have the outer insulation worn and doesn't have the correct block to reduce the flow, place your foot on the metal drain, and grab the fill spout with one of your hands and soak for an hour to saturate your skin. Now you are absolutely 100% sure you can't get 7 milliamps to pass through your body......?????
I have two electrical contractor clients and electricians can become so complacent with electricity they do stupid stuff.
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I'm with longwalker. It's like Russian roulette... you're really pretty safe because the 'one' bullet has to line up with the barrel. You're safe the vast majority of the time.
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Your speculating way to much. Plus you don't have a working knowledge of electricity.
Your guessing, hoping you part right.
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Did you watch the Mythbusters episode showing appliances falling into the tub.....lots of them caused enough to kill......just keep telling yourself it is safe. People die every year because all of the dominoes line up perfectly. Expecting one not to be in place is a crazy way to live......or maybe die....
Yes, lots of things have to line up.....but unless you tell me that those things cannot all happen at once, I won't be putting my phone pulled in next to the tub......but hey, go ahead and plug yours in....
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I know enough about electricity that I understand path....if I flow current through my body and it passes through my heart with as little as 3-7 milliamps, I can defib my heart and die.....that is a known fact.....
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Plus you don't have a working knowledge of electricity
Stop acting like you do. Mith busters is a TV show.
They dropped live 120 volt AC items not 5 VDC devices.
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You two get a room 🤣
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I have an electrical engineering degree. I have supervised numerous electricians and electronics technicians. I have seen so many dudes shock themselves on circuits over the years that they thought were isolated (electrician turns off circuit breaker and tapes it so he can work, carpenter's saw stops working so he goes to the breaker, removes the warning tape and flips the breaker back on), fly-back transformers (yes, I'm older), capacitors that weren't properly discharged, even statically charged copier toner powder. (Dude was leaning on a work cart, leaning his dick on the metal of the cart when he started to vacuum the toner out before working on the device. 30,000 volts through his wiener refreshed his working knowledge of static electricity.) One guy in our company died because he was taking short-cuts working on a 480 volt panel. Except for the death, we always laugh at the dudes that get zapped.
In every electrical shock case I can remember, someone temporarily lost respect for electricity. This poor girl probably charged her phone many times by the bath, got the cord wet and nothing happened. She lives somewhere where wall voltage is 220 volts. She accidentally created a wet path to that voltage and that's all it took. (The regulated, 5 volt charging voltage has no possibility of killing her.)
My point about this story is that the vast majority of the time if one fucks up, it's just a zap. Sometimes it's not. Much better (especially with the girls - around the bath - with their hair dryers, curling irons, hair straighteners, etc.) to be careful.
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So you are saying you totally trust a cheap charger that may be designed with poor AC/DC isolation or there may be a fault condition? That is the stuff that gets people killed. Yes, using a proper charger and dropping the phone into the water, there will be no exposure to electrocution.
Go ahead and trust.....but absent verify, you might be sorry. Most people don't have testers to check their charger. You are giving people a false sense of safety and security. I get to investigate serious accidents including electrocutions all the time.
You are telling people it is perfectly ok to charge their phone next to the tub, since there is NO potential for electrocution...then they realize they can't reach to the closest outlet and they use an extension cord......but they are still believing you said it was safe.....the extension cord has a cut or break and we just fried someone when that cord falls in.
Yep,you are a qualified electrician and fully know about electricity....but electrocution is one of the Fatal Four....most common workplace deaths.........
In the home, there are more than 350 fatalities each year from electricity and more than 60 of them are due to appliances. We need to send a message that you should only do electrical work if qualified (they can hire you) and to be extremely cautious with any electrical appliance or tool.
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I admit I know nothing about electricity so this blog raised a question. If the amount of current in appliances is not an electrocution danger if dropped in water, why, when I remodeled the baths, did I have to install ground fault plugs to replace the old three prong? I was told it was a code issue for safety and the house could pass inspection without that change?
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Appliances dropped can kill you.
This discussion has been about whether a phone being charged can do the same.
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worldclass....you are assuming everything is up to code.....that is a scary assumption.
Old houses do NOT have the required GFCI protection. Heck, some old homes don't even have an effective grounding system...
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^Water proof cases.... Says the girl that doesn't return pms^
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Here are two articles that explain how you can get electrocuted from charging your cell phone. It says "Seven milliamps. For three seconds. That's all it takes can kill you" Im not sure what a milliamp is maybe some can explain that.
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Amp is short for ampere. A milliamp is 1000th of an amp.
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DudeLeb......
People obviously didn't read MY links (one was the same as one of yours)....maybe people will read YOURS.
As Loki stated, a milliamp is a really small amount of electricity. That is why this stuff is so concerning.....that amount of electricity can cause your heart to go into defibrillation and absent an AED to re-shock your heart, you might just die....
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Thats got to be a first for this site, dudes arguing about voltage 
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Yeah, pretty funny. I just don't want the ladies here to come away with the idea they can plug shit in next to the tub.....
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The 5V charging voltage is not enough to kill someone. If the charger had a leakage problem across its transformer (meaning something was f'ed up in the charger), some significant voltage could result.
I'm an electrical engineer.
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Yes, that is the issue....bad charger, third world piss poor quality control or who knows what....if the charger has a problem, the user might have a problem....people have burned their houses down from defective chargers.
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How did any girl call you a nigger under her breath on any blog or whatever you talking about lol
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I saw the article earlier, it has pictures of her, mostly selfies.
she was real cute, probably would have done well here 
RIP
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Bottom line: keep the electronics away from the water. Also, in laymans terms, I agree with Loki51 - volts do not kill, amps do!
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Not quite true nightfever, a current through ones body is increased with a higher applied voltage potential. The path needs to be through the heart. Aa current path from your knee to toe will hurt but not stop your heart. The resistance of human tissue is in the megohm range so a 5V constant voltage source with a million amps behind (for example) it will not harm you. Current = Voltage / Resistance. A constant current source with high voltage compliance will kill you.
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The article stated she plugged her phone into a 220 volt outlet. If there was any defect in that transformer. She most likely got hit with a full 220 ac volt and not the 5 dc voltage of the phone.
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I think we should run HX tests.
Guys who call bullshit get in the tub.
Guys who think it’ll kill you get to drop the phone.
Winners get a BJ from the losers.
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