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DudeLebowski
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California just passed a law that allows college athletes to get paid
Sep 30 2019 12:18PM more by DudeLebowski
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Its about fucking time.
The NCAA and colleges have been taking advantage of college athletes for way too long raking in millions of dollars and the athlete gets none of it. I don't know how this is going to work in other states or even how its going to work here in CA but its a great first step.
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Sep 30 2019 12:23PM     link to this

While I am all about people getting paid their due, college kids with too much money and no real knowledge of how to manage it spells of disaster. Unless some people take the time to invest in careers and manage that bling.
Peckr
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Sep 30 2019 12:30PM     link to this

Its college not professional sports, besides these athletes get scholarships and free tuition and a free spring board and stage to show off their talent to eventually fuck the school that gave them a shot by leaving the school early to get drafted into the professional sports anyway. I don't think they should be paid at the collegiate level. If they want to go pro, let them...but the ncaa should not have to let them play.
DudeLebowski
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Sep 30 2019 12:46PM     link to this

Just because the college gives them a scholarships and free tuition doesn't mean that athlete should give up their right to get paid when someone uses their likeness across all media platforms. If a college student goes on a talk show they get AFTRA rate aka paid for their appearance. Colleges are selling jerseys with the names of the athletes, making video games on and on and not paying them anything. Thats wrong!
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Sep 30 2019 02:04PM     link to this

What this really means is that the PAC-12 and the Mountain West will become the dominant conferences in the NCAA.

Goodbye Alabama (Football)!
C-Ya Duke (B-Ball).

Kids are going to take Fresno State over Georgetown cuz they get paid. I might just go to a CSU Long Beach B-Ball game if the next S Curry gets signed up.

Bring it!!

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Sep 30 2019 02:28PM     link to this

Nope, a student athlete should not be given anything but a scholarship and a pat on the back. When did we forget the difference between a college athlete and a professional one? The last time I checked, going to college was to get an education. Once you graduated, you could go out and find a job to get paid. If an athlete wearing a jersey on or off the field goes and gives an interview or makes a game, any money earned should go to the school whose colors are on his/her jersey. If an athlete goes out on their own, gives interviews or makes a pair of shoes and gets paid, they should then be deemed a professional athlete and should not be allowed to play collegiate sports.

How is the NCAA going to regulate players getting paid and how much they share in profits from school to school. How about recruitment of players...Hey Sr. about to graduate to go to college, we want you to come to our school and play football....and by the way, we can guarantee that our boosters and alumni will purchase 50,000 jerseys with your name on the back the day you sign with us, we will give you $5 per jersey and you can use that money to buy new car and a house for your mother. Want to come to USC and get paid or do you want to go play at UNLV and make about $30?

This is going to be a shit show.
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Sep 30 2019 02:40PM     link to this

I’d like to see college athletes get a reasonable stipend.

Their “likeness” is only valuable because of the platform... that being said... it’s still valuable.

The problem is the sad world we live in that requires “equality” no matter the value.

So if you give a Zion Williamson type athlete a couple grand a month... (Who heightens the school profile, sells hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of tickets, millions of TV dollars) you will be required to give the girl on the bench of the 11th place ladies volleyball team (that costs the school 250k a season)the same amount.
KaiserSoce
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Sep 30 2019 02:41PM     link to this

By the way... If California’s Governor did it... it must be a good idea... right?
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Sep 30 2019 05:03PM     link to this

I think it is in part an equity argument. The NCAA and corporate sponsors make big bucks off these athletes and yet they are not truly compensated except for a scholarship etc. Plus the NCAA and others can continue to profit after the athletes have left school. If I remember correctly this new law does not go into effect until 2023
notsofast
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Sep 30 2019 05:42PM     link to this

So...if Ernie's used cars down on Van Nuys Blvd wants to enter into an endorsement deal with a hotshot senior from Indiana that wants to play football at SC, they can? Seems like a real Pandora's Box of potential problems and potentially a big leap in the haves and have nots. As of now, schools have the same amount of scholarships available and theoretically a star could walk on and make enough to pay for tuition and then some.

The NCAA could say, fine Cali, do your thing, but you are not eligible for inter conference play or tournament participation.

It'll be interesting how this plays out and who exposes the inevitable loopholes.
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Sep 30 2019 06:41PM     link to this

I'm finally going to get paid!

Who wants some of ma money 😂
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Sep 30 2019 07:25PM     link to this

Kiss Title IX goodbye.
kiss smaller schools athletic programs goodbye that don't have TV rights
Tuition to play? replace with pay? Yeah, kiss any pretext of getting an education goodbye
Reduced educational attention (not that it's big now) - screw getting a degree

How many college kids are there? How many are drafted? how many make enough to play for a SHORT amount of time to retire w/o having an education to "fall back on"

Those that do earn enough to retire, more often than not can't handle the money and blow it.

This screws over the people it's supposed to help.

IMHO... I could be wrong.
DudeLebowski
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Sep 30 2019 08:40PM     link to this

Lonzo Ball's brother might really change the game if he goes #1 in the 2020 NBA draft next year. His father pulled him out of High school and had him play pro in Lithuania which made him unable to play in college. So he's currently playing pro in Australia and kicking ass. If he goes #1 its likely going to inspire a lot of other good players that come out of high school to do the same. That way they would get paid from their overseas team in the one year before being able to play pro in US an bi-passing College all together.
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Oct 1 2019 08:33AM     link to this

It’s a long time between now and the 2020 draft. I’ll bet your wiener that Ball won’t be in the Top 5.
Collegiate stars will emerge between now and March.
Thankfully Lavar has been low key since Big Baller failed and Lonzo distanced himself from his father.
If Lavar stays in the background... leMelo will have a better shot at being in the top 10.

Drama effects an NBA roster a lot more than an NFL roster.
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“Dude Abides” what a Commie pos. It’s freeeeee
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Oct 1 2019 10:25AM     link to this

This is so anti libertarian. The schools not paying them. Who are they to say what they can do with their image. The head of the NCAA makes 5 mil a yr
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Oct 1 2019 10:30AM     link to this

So what about athletes who are in the school before college? Going to pay them?

This will only affect a small handful of college athletes, and mostly in football and basketball. The other states will pass similar laws if they think their schools will be unable to compete. You think Alabama alums and all the money they spend on their program....it will get worse. The top programs will have the most money to pay so the rich will only get richer......

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Oct 1 2019 10:35AM     link to this

This will kill Title9 and small schools programs will be dust!
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Oct 1 2019 01:37PM     link to this

It's about damn time. Everybody else makes money off these college athletes, they deserve to get paid, too.
DudeLebowski
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Oct 1 2019 03:35PM     link to this

Im pretty sure all the athletes for each sport will get the exact same pay. I doubt they want to turn college sports into the NFL or NBA. There is just no real reason they should not be getting paid. The colleges should not be getting rich off the athletes likeness. I think the NCAA is working under rules that are way out of date. Back many years ago colleges where not being paid millions of dollars to televise games. Internet broadcast,Jersey sales and video games etc....were not around or bring in the kind on money they are today. The times have changed but the rules never did.

@jammerman- hey Old Spice stay on topic.
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Oct 1 2019 03:47PM     link to this

It will be very interesting to see how they manage small school/big school, waterpolo/basketball inequities.

Here we go.
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Oct 1 2019 04:55PM     link to this

And in a couple of years I won't be able to get a straw to drink my milkshake, or drink a soda in the car while driving. Fucking liberals.
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Oct 1 2019 04:59PM     link to this

Dudelebowski...

You obviously didn't read the bill. It will allow student athletes to receive money for the use of their image and likeness being on merchandise, (i.e. endorsement deals) etc. So only the one whose picture is making the money will get anything. All of the others will get squat.....
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Oct 1 2019 05:05PM     link to this

2023 for California, Florida jumped in trying to pass something similar for 2020, South Carolina, Alabama and presumably any state in the SEC will be doing the same.
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Oct 1 2019 05:31PM     link to this

Yes, the SEC will jump all over this...they don't want their teams to be at any disadvantage. Heck, they already do a great job 'paying' their football players.....now they can help do it legally.
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Oct 1 2019 05:59PM     link to this

I do not believe the schools would pay them anything. It would be companies like Nike, Adidas, etc.
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Oct 1 2019 06:09PM     link to this

^^^^ that sounds right.

But wow... this is going to be the Wild West.

What’s to stop Company like Nike from saying to a young athlete.... if you go to USC we will use your image to the tune of $75,000 a season. If you go to Oregon... our marketing would be worth ... $750,000 a season.

jazz51
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Oct 1 2019 06:33PM     link to this

Phil and Nike could buy a national championship
KaiserSoce
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Oct 1 2019 06:44PM     link to this

Yep.

It’s going to get real interesting.... or... real boring.

If you are letting these athletes enter the free market....
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Oct 1 2019 06:58PM     link to this

I think people are vastly overreacting to all the doom and gloom this will supposedly cause. For most student athletes they are just going to get a little extra pocket money selling autographed photos or their used game worn jock strap on eBay.

It's not going to cause the collapse of western civilization like it did when we allowed the gays to get married or women to vote.
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Oct 1 2019 08:28PM     link to this

Wrong!

We have never recovered from that women voting thing.
DudeLebowski
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Oct 1 2019 08:45PM     link to this

No I admit I didn't read the formal bill. Never said I did.
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Oct 1 2019 09:53PM     link to this

"It will allow student athletes to receive money for the use of their image and likeness being on merchandise, (i.e. endorsement deals) etc. So only the one whose picture is making the money will get anything. All of the others will get squat"

I'm okay with that as long as there's caps.
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Oct 1 2019 10:28PM     link to this

No caps. Whichever athletes a company might to use for endorsements...football, basketball and probably hot female volleyball players, swimmers,female gymnasts or track athletes.
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Oct 1 2019 11:43PM     link to this

It will be interesting to see what happens. I do think there will be some problems with it. For example I expect that if Alabama wants a certain recruit they might make an arrangement where an alumni or some other person pays them $75,000 for the rights to use their likeness on merchandise even if they know they will never sell much merchandise. Clemson wants the same player and offers
$100,000.

In some cases it might technically make some of the current money being paid to athletes legitimate.
It may also create additional forms of corruption not currently in play.
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Oct 2 2019 12:10AM     link to this

stumpy....this is exactly my point.

Oregon is supported by Phil Knight and Nike could endorse any one that Oregon would want.

T. Boone Pickens who was a huge Oklahoma State fan could have channeled money through any advertising company to get any top athlete to OSU.

There are countless millionaires or billionaires who would love to make sure the best QB, best point guard, etc. would go to their alma mater.

Terrible law that people didn't think through before they blindly passed it....
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Oct 2 2019 12:17AM     link to this

Alabama, Oregon, Texas none of that matters right now, the law is just passed in California. This could be a good test to see if companies bring the best players to say USC or UCLA and they start reeling off National Championships.
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Oct 2 2019 02:31AM     link to this

I foresee a problem with team sports such as football. How will the other players feel when a few
of their star players get 100K and they get nothing for busting their asses for these players.
I doubt if the NCAA will go along with these state laws.
I believe all collegiate athletes should be compensated for their efforts since the schools
they attend profit from their abilities and skills.
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Oct 2 2019 06:11AM     link to this

Dude... all of those states and some now have similar bills in the works. Heck... Alabama might pass theirs before I finsish typing this comment 😂

And theirs will probably go into effect before 2023 in order to get the jump on CA.

It’s going to be a mess. Bidding wars for the top athletes.

The good thing is some athletes might stay in school an extra year or two.
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Oct 2 2019 08:41AM     link to this

Doesn't become law until 2023. A lot can happen before then. Not a done deal.
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