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AcesUp
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Locked. No further comments permitted.What do Conservatives believe in? Do they need a new name?
Oct 30 2019 07:13AM more by AcesUp
Tags: Orange County, Current Events (All tags)

The traditional conservative beliefs seem to have changed.
Can't really use the word conservative anymore to describe the Republicans.
What would be a better title?
      
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KaiserSoce
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Oct 30 2019 07:38AM     link to this

Yeah Aces....

I’m more Libertarian.. but not fully.

I usually get lumped in with conservatives.

I believe in smaller government with limited purposes. Primarily... but not limited to national defense.

I’m a social progressive. Liberty in personal areas unless they have measurable impact on others.

Economically I believe in the free market... but I also recognize the depravity and greed of man so there must be laws and government oversight to limit abuses.

Soooo... I’m not really a Conservative... or a Republican.... but I’m usually stuck voting the right side of the ballot simply because of the lack of choices.

So... I guess I am a nose holding Republican.

Kelly4U
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Oct 30 2019 11:29AM     link to this

For those in the House or Senate I would call them Quitters or Cowards...

18 or more House Republican members and 4 Republican Senators are not seeking re-election next year
24 Republicans retired ahead of the 2018 midterms.

If they don't like what their party is turning into they should speak up and change it Instead of Silently bowing out.

Conservative is not a negative term. Plenty of good Conservative Democratics out there it's just now they are called Liberal. Plenty of good Conservative Repubs too but they are now called Moderate and are shamed by their BitchBoy president.

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Oct 30 2019 12:07PM     link to this

Conservatives: family values, character counts, religious/ moral integrity, honoring the constitution. (lol) bla, bla, bla.....that has always been a smoke screen.

Republicans (establishment) cares about:

Low taxes, no regulations and good business opportunity to make money. AND THAT IS ALL. EVERYTHING ELSE IS BULLSHIT (nothing else really matters)........and Trump is giving them that.

I am not trying to urinate on anyone's parade, just telling you the truth.

Stop with the moral injustice, they don't care!

once again: 1) Low business tax......from 35% to 21%.....trump yes
2) get rid of regulation...................................trump yes
3) opportunity to make more money.............trump yes

4) every thing else.......they don't give a shit...trump yes





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Oct 30 2019 02:52PM     link to this

I've said it before Trump is not a Conservative. Trump is a Nativist.
If you follow his world view you are a Nativist too.
Some of you say you are scared that Bernie Sanders would change the nation into Socialist.You don't even notice that Donald Trump has already changed the Republican party into the Nativist Party.
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Oct 30 2019 03:37PM     link to this

What do you communists believe in ? High taxes, huge government with over regulation, open borders, welfare to increase the crime rate in inner cities, socialism that has always failed and turns to communism after they steal all the wealth. Ruining American medicine. Anti prosperity, Anti business, ride and immoral public behavior, killing babies, dependence on others to pay your way, anti police, defending the rights of illegal immigrants over US Citizens
The 1st and 2nd amendment.
Did I miss anything ?
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Oct 30 2019 04:13PM     link to this

Like I said Nativist Party.
Aren't Conservatives supposed to be fiscally conservative? So you go all in with Trump's tax cuts to the rich to explode the deficit. Nobody is for open boarders but if you are saying you are against illegal immigration why is everything only targeted towards our neighbors from the south. How about visa over stays, Canadian immigration etc..... no talk of any of that.
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Oct 30 2019 04:48PM     link to this

“That is the Democrats platform”

LOL

It is far from the democratic platform... Democrats are weak on defense and border security. They think the answer to everything is bigger government. They regulate and tax the shit out of business. Particularly small business.

California is the best example. CA labor laws are so onerous, they drive businesses from the state. If you have employees... you know what I am talking about. Let’s not talk about how AB 5 is going to crush California’s ”gig economy.”

Brother, I am far from a liberal. Don’t think that because I don’t think men/women in power can be trusted to do the right thing on their own... that is about Republicans. It’s about everyone.

People think Republicans don’t have hearts... and Democrats don’t have brains...

I don’t think either is true.

I don’t hate Democrats and liberals... I just think they have the wrong answers... and usually because they don’t ask enough questions... or they ask the wrong questions.
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Oct 30 2019 05:22PM     link to this

Kelly....the conservative and moderate Democrats obviously have been bitch slapped by Nancy and the Squad...we don't hear a single thing from ANY of them.....so if they are not offering up anything they are worthless.....or just plain scared to speak up.
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Oct 30 2019 05:25PM     link to this

na·tiv·ist

relating to or supporting the policy of protecting the interests of native-born or established inhabitants against those of immigrants.



Not just against immigrants but against minorities, LGBT people, jews and muslims, poor people and other groups.
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Oct 30 2019 06:15PM     link to this

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Oct 30 2019 06:35PM     link to this

Republicans believe in tax cuts for the rich.

Ending nonwhite immigration to the US.

Ending legal abortion.

Capital punishment.

Forming an alliance with the Russian Federation and pulling out of NATO.

Trade deals that only benefit the US.

Removing most powers from Congress and making most decisions under the absolute control of the White House.

I can't think of any others.
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Oct 30 2019 06:37PM     link to this

I forgot a big one.

Republicans believe global warming is a hoax.
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Oct 30 2019 07:42PM     link to this

Gotta love Jammerman’s comment about Dems “ruining US healthcare.” If only the facts were on your side. US healthcare costs are higher than any other country on Earth. But we don’t have the best health outcomes in the world. Far from it. Life expectancy? We rank 11th among developed nations. Infant mortality? We rank 33 out 36 developed nations. We are paying top shelf prices for third rate results. So how exactly are the democrats ruining that?
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Oct 30 2019 08:06PM     link to this

The term conservative didn’t come to be associated with Republican until about 1950......before that back to it’s founding as an abolitionist party; it was more liberal. Funny how 2 out of the last four Republication Presidents started as Liberal Democrats... Don’t take what the media (or when you google) for face value. If you do any personal research go to ‘google scholar’ you get fact oriented, peer reviewed research. Everything else is click bate..
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Oct 30 2019 09:26PM     link to this

^You quoting Obama is like Trump quoting Martin Luther King^
Thats hilarious
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Oct 30 2019 10:22PM     link to this

They just need to go back and read their Founder “ Lincoln's gettysburg address”
To realize who they really are lol
coolhotavi50
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Oct 30 2019 10:23PM     link to this

They will be so ashamed what they have become
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Oct 30 2019 10:40PM     link to this

Here is a better question...

what exactly do democrats do?

lmao.
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Oct 30 2019 11:19PM     link to this

Stay Woke lol. Dude is right out of a comic book. The only way to Stay Woke is to be nutured.
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Oct 30 2019 11:28PM     link to this

Google Scholar. LOL. We all know Google isn't into censorship.
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Oct 31 2019 03:40AM     link to this

Ooh, ooh! i’ll play,Justoneman!

“What is: fix the fucked up recession that the previous republican administration caused” for a thousand.
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Oct 31 2019 05:18AM     link to this

Well then, democrats might as well change their name to communist party.
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Oct 31 2019 07:20AM     link to this

+ 3/4
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Oct 31 2019 08:41AM     link to this

Impeachment hearings are formally under way...... They will be televised.
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Oct 31 2019 08:50AM     link to this

No....once again the left is wrong...and the media is stupid or just want their own spin...NO formal vote on impeachment has been taken.....NONE...read my fucking lips...NO impeachment vote.

They don't have the balls to do that...they voted some bullshit rules to 'formalize' what they are doing...but what they are doing is NOT an impeachment hearing.....get your facts correct..stop believing all the bullshit you read in the news....
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Oct 31 2019 08:55AM     link to this

The kangaroo court is now in session.....
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Oct 31 2019 09:32AM     link to this

MA...where did you come up with that list of bullshit....

What have the Dems done in the last 3 years with immigration and border security....yep, they support it don't they.

They have gone against stuff they PREVIOUSLY supported but because Trump wants it, they oppose it...

That is hypocrisy and working against the best interests of our country.....
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Oct 31 2019 10:45AM     link to this

For many months many have said wait until the Durham-Barr report and the IG report on FISA come out. The Dems are already in panic mode. They are already trying to claim this is just Trump retaliation, when it is a very legit investigation of an attempted soft coup by a prosecutor who was hired into DOJ by Holder. The media are already parroting the Dem false claim that this is just retribution by Barr and Trump. It is a sad day for America that the press does not report honestly on what that investigation is really all about. It will be interesting to hear them when the indictments of top Obama officials start, and when Obama and Biden are connected. What did Obama know and when did he know it. Unfortunately it will take several months until a grand jury can issue indictments. Someone is going to talk during this process just as John Dean did in Watergate. My bet is it will be Strozk or Page. When the entire story is out and indictments are issued, it will be the worst political scandal in history, and the Dems up to Obama and Biden will be running for cover. Expect press attacks on the investigation and Durham and Barr to get really intense over the next few weeks. The mainstream media is already on that track because they know this will blow up the Democrats, and the whole impeachment script.

Schiff, who lied until the day the Mueller report was released, is going nowhere with the impeachment investigation as the president of Ukraine said publicly, and other witnesses have said, there was no quid pro quo. Even the NY Times has reported they did not even know the arms were held up until well after the phone call. You can’t have a quid pro quo if the other party does not even know about it. The funding was given to Ukraine and no investigation happened, so there was no exchange. It is not unusual for a US president to withhold funds to get another country to do what he wants. It is proper to ask for help in uncovering the real story of what happened in 2016 with the election, which Durham is in the process of doing. Maybe Hunter Biden broke no law, but you have to be 5 years old not to understand why he was asked to be on the board of a criminally owned company he knows nothing at all about, and then paid what now seems to be $68,000 a month. Joe can claim he knew nothing, but then he must never have asked his only son who he was close to, what he was doing for a profession. Do you believe that one? We are seeking the same investigatory help from several other countries. Adam Schiff is conducting a political investigation to try to have media leaks setting the stage to diminish Trump’s approval before the election. The House is likely to impeach, but the Senate will not. Regardless of your politics, this is very dangerous as it could be used next time there is a Democrat president. We cannot have a constitutional government of laws with this sort of action. They want to impeach Trump, Kavanaugh and even Justice Thomas. In short, they want to eliminate anyone in high office who does not align with their left wing ideology. They think they are still on campus where they learned they can do this and get support from the college deans. That is the root of what we are seeing, and it is egged on by a heavily biased press that forgot what journalism is supposed to be about-objectively reporting the news.

The Dems know they have no viable candidate. Even my friends who intensely hate Trump with a passion say they cannot vote for Warren. She cannot get the big dollars except from Soros. Butaboy cannot win as a far left gay. Biden is hopeless and Bernie is already out of it. Maybe they go for Klobachar, but she cannot win. Bloomberg is said to not be likely to go ahead. This is why they are pushing so hard on impeachment. They have nobody who can beat Trump. If the China deal gets signed, even Phase I, and if USMCA gets passed, Trump becomes unbeatable because the economy and stock market rally, and the value of 401Ks soars. Voters will have secure jobs, rising wages, savings, and some real money in their homes and 401K. They do not want to risk that. They understand they are far better off than they were four years ago. And now with the military rebuilt, and ISIS mostly defeated after Obama did nothing to deal with them, security is much better. That is a hard story for the Dems to defeat.

Killing Baghdadi was an extraordinary win for the US and the world, but the Dem leadership said nothing for over 6 hours, and then Pelosi issues a disgusting partisan political statement that was not even accurate. She could not even bring herself to congratulate the troops who are beyond extraordinary. At the same moment Trump finished speaking, Schiff was on ABC raging about how Barr and Durham are staging an improper retaliation on behalf of Trump. Does not say much for ABC trying to change the subject. What a hypocrite Schiff is. He is conducting an improper political attack over what was said in a phone call, and Durham is investigating what may be the worst scandal in American political history. Just one more example of how the Dems are going to attack the investigation because they know it is going to change the entire narrative of politics and make the Dems look terrible. We will see far more attacks on Barr and Durham and demands for Barr to recuse over the next two months as the noose closes. The Dems know impeachment is impossible and they just want to attack to try to deflect what is coming from Durham. I predict the indictments will not happen until January after the holidays when everyone can pay attention again. Meantime we get the Horowitz report in two weeks which will suck the air out of Schiff and impeachment. And the Washington Post referred to Baghdadi as an “austere religious scholar.” How sick is that. And the press thinks we are supposed to give them any credibility?
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Oct 31 2019 11:47AM     link to this

Certainly not what the douche bags on the left believe.....
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Oct 31 2019 12:29PM     link to this

/ communist
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Oct 31 2019 12:41PM     link to this

the silent majority of the folks out there have traditional family values that lean conservative, unlike the far left 'progressives' that have given liberals a bad name
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Oct 31 2019 12:56PM     link to this

The whole impeachment bulk shit is a diversion for what Trumps called the Deep State! There are things going on in government that the left is trying to cover up.

It doesn’t take a brain surgeon to figure that out....
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Oct 31 2019 02:16PM     link to this

@ Sherkhole....


LOL = Dems = Jokes
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Nov 1 2019 02:37PM     link to this

Big Ones, I’m guessing “Bulk Shit” was a typo... yet still fits quite well. Hmmmm ... pretty cool.
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