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Try this scenario.
A guy named Whistleblower says he heard all the screaming and yelling at his neighbor's house the night before the neighbor's wife mysteriously disappeared.
Following this lead, authorities canvas the neighborhood and find two other neighbors, Smith and Wilson, who verify the story.
After a week of being unable to locate the wife, after talking to all her friends and family, the authorities get a warrant. They discover evidence the wife was murdered in the house and charge the husband.
Now it turns out that neighbor Whistleblower didn't hear shit, because he was actually out of town that day. But the warrant was based on the accounts of ALL THREE - Whistleblower, Smith, and Wilson.
Smith and Wilson are rock-solid.
Should the charges against the suspected murderer be dropped? After all, it started with bad evidence from Whistleblower! So that 'taints' the whole thing, right?
That is the logic being used here.
It would let a lot of murderers go free, even with good testimony from Smith and Wilson.
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It's Wesson not Wilson.
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too funny
what is the big thing you are leaving out of this lil comparison?
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Which 2 are suppose to be rock solid in this comparison? 
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let them tell us if they can...might be hard with the TDS
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sounds just like schiff btw when he was making up his little story
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anything? bueller??
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Here's the link to see the actual whistleblower complaint.
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we are waiting on the little difference in the story comparison
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Not a whistleblower. It’s a leak from a Democrat activist. That is illegal and It should be prosecuted
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Of course he was not 'deeply concerned' when Hunter Biden was given hand fulls of money for knowing nothing about oil and energy, nothing about Ukraine and it appeared that the only reason was his dad was VP. Now that is certainly NOTHING to worry about....
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How much money..? You dont know how much he was paid. Now you're making shit up. Just like trump. The lies keep coming.
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He never went to Ukraine but received thousands of dollars for being a board member of Burisma...and paid money by Rosemont Seneca....but no one wants to investigate THIS....far more evidence about this than anything Trump.
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Let the FBI talk to the whistleblower. Unless the whistleblower IS an FBI agent.
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OK for the uninitiated, you have no idea what a board member does. A lot of board members are not necessarily well versed in the day to day operations of the company in which they are board members. 2 quick examples so you understand; Nicky Haley; she’s a board member of Boeing. Last time I checked she’s not an aeronautical engineer or even a pilot; Shaquille O’Neil; board member of Papa John’s Pizza. ShaQ May eats a lot of pizza but I doubt he know much more about the pizza business.
The guys is lawyer and his last name is Biden. A lot of company would want him on their board. It’s PR position in a lot of cases. So please drop the “he’s not qualified to be on the board argument”. It only shows that you are unaware. Now if you say it doesn’t look good, you’d have a point. He himself admits it. Unethical, hmmmm maybe. Swampy, yes. Illegal, no.
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And there is no equivalency here. Hunter Biden is a nobody, a private citizen. He can do anything he wants. He did not break any laws. And if he did, yes please file a complaint, investigate, convict if found guilty and may he rot in jail. No Democrats cares about Hunter Biden. I am lost as to why the right brings this guy up.
POTUS on the other cannot ask a foreign government to investigate his political rival. That’s against the law. If he indeed wanted him investigated, he would tell his DOJ to do it. He wanted Ukraine to just state that Biden is under investigation to weaken his standings. And that’s illegal.
Now I’ve explain it as I would to a child. Hope that helps. But I doubt it.
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i forgot what i was watching the other day....they did a montage on the left's (political/press) unified response of "nothing to see" "already been looked at" on many potential issues from that side
pretty funny stuff, but when it comes to anything on the right or trump...stop everything to turn over every stone till that fucker is impeached
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Mr. Shelby’s comments are partially true. There are many reason’s to have a board member other than expertise in that particular form of business.
Here is the problem with Hunter Biden’s issue. It is clear he was there because his father was the Vice President. Now, Burisma may have wanted him simply because of the cache that comes with the Biden name. Or... the goal could have been to purchase influence within the U.S. government. Having the latter mindset is not illegal... until influence is actually reciprocated.
Hunter’s father (by his own admission) used his influence to have a prosecutor removed who was aggressively going after Burisma.
Coincidence? Possibly.
Worth looking at? I would say yes.
In all of this... the charge has never been that Hunter did anything illegal. The question has been, “Did his Dad use his influence on Hunter’s behalf to derail a legitimate investigation into the (now agreed upon) corrupt business dealings of Burisma.
There is no disagreement about Burisma’s corruption.
There is no disagreement that Hunter was on the board.
There is no disagreement that Hunter was paid a lot of money.
There is no disagreement that Vice President Biden forced Ukraine to remove the prosecutor.
The only disagreement/question is, What, if anything, do those things have to do with each other?
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Great points @KS. Minor correction (or major). The Ukrainian AG was removed because he was NOT going after corruption, which includes Burisma. And this was not Biden’s decision though he wanted it and even bragged about it. Every western government and institutions like WMF were pushing for this guy’s removal. And don’t forget the Ukrainian government has already investigated and stated no wrongdoings were found when it comes to Hunter Biden.
But my point remains the guy was a nobody. Had absolutely no influence anywhere, just profiting from his name probably. Personally never liked the guy. Married his brother’s widow (not judging but... really who does that?), cheats on her, impregnated his mistress and doesn’t pay child support. The guy is a slime ball. Again no one I know cares about this guy. By all means I wish they’d go after him. I just don’t know why the right keeps playing this false equivalency as if he was someone people cared about.
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Mr. Shelby, thanks for the reasonable exchange. You must not be from around these parts.
I think the Hunter thing is a red herring... but... it seems actual truth is no longer of value anymore... on either side. It’s all about dirtying up the other side as much as possible.
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in search of starfish
op writes "Smith and Wilson are rock-solid"
Does TDS make it difficult for you to read carefully and sort through an argument.?
By TDS, I assume you mean a derangement caused by Trump.
I'm pretty certain that you might have it too.
Stick to your lane and go find some butthole.
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The POTUS can investigate corruption even if the Corrupt Biden was tiring to get nominated. There was no quid pro quo, except for the Biden’s,no bribery and no crime. The loser Dems have been trying to impeach Trump since before he was inaugurated. Sorry, but the Framers saw this type of partisan sham possible. There is no way the Senate will vote for impeachment on Schiff and Nadlers lawless circus. There is also no way that any Dem will win in 2020. Did you poor Dems notice the jobs report and stock market this morning? Start paying your own way losers
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Shelby Blowbra
There was no investigation by Ukraine and the aid was issued to them. Where is there a crime?
If you think the President can’t investigate corruption , think again
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I’m sure they wanted s guy on their board that was just dishonorably discharged from the Navy and had zero experience in the energy field . Apparently you have no idea what a CEO does
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Jammerman, I agree with you more than not... but people are placed on corporate boards for all kinds of reasons. Name recognition is one of them.
In many cases there is no expectation of even attending meetings, let alone impacting the operation of the company.
So... I don’t know what the Biden deal was all about. Criminal at worst. Sloppy attempt to curry favor at best. Honestly... I don’t care. For me the Trump issue is just a way to try to stain Trump. The Biden issue started as just a way to stain Biden... but has evolved into a defense point on the attack against Trump.
Honestly... it feels petty and boring.
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GeneShelby...
Yes there are 'figurehead' board members...but they don't get paid much, usually an annual stipend for attending the board meetings and expenses...certainly not hundreds of thousands of dollars.......Hunter was there due to influence of his dad.....clear and simple.....
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50k a month. I'm as qualified and my dad is not a politician. How often do they meet.?
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