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When you spew are you committing mass murder?
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Touché Lou
Guess it depends on your sperm count
Obviously not b/c an egg hasn’t been fertilized
But if so, I’d be much worse than Hitler
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So it would seem the main point of contention is does life begin at conception?
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Should ask the President. I’m certain many a lady has visited planned parenthood on his dime after “visiting” with him. That fucker probably has Net30 terms with PP.
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@lou
I don’t see how it cannot be, considering we’re all just a clump of cells at the end of the day
If a woman gets murdered and is 8 months prego, it should be double homicide imo
Why would it be different if she has only been carrying for 1 month
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I consider it, destroying a life, so I can consider it as murder.
However, since it is not a fully developed human being that can
exist outside the womb, you currently have the right to
destroy it, if you don't want it.
I think it would be better, karmically, if you would just prevent
the pregnancy.
Killing people has far reaching consequences that most don't realize.
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I'm pro-choice but only till the 100th trimester.
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You can do what you want to a fetus. They can’t hire a lawyer to advocate for them.
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A of 2018, 38 states have fetal homicide laws on the books. If you, let’s say, beat a pregnant woman and the fetus doesn’t make it... but the woman does, you can still tried for murder.
Some states even have sentence enhancements.
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@ColossusJones
First of all great name, Colossus was always a favorite x-man of mine.
What’s ur over under Trumps aborts?
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I'm pro death all the way up to and beyond the 100th trimester
Planned Parenthood just cleansed Sanger from their building, so there's that.
Will Hillary and Nancy return their Margaret Sanger Awards?
Will de Blasio change the Manhattan square named after Sanger?
How about the bust of her in the National Portrait Gallery?
Interestingly enough, PP does a large percentage of its abortion business in minority neighborhoods.....racist eugenics?
Mildred Jefferson, the first black woman to graduate from Harvard Medical School was a founder of the National Right to Life Committee.
just some interesting info in our interesting "BLM" times
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I hadnt heard about Sanger until the recent news
Whoo, gnarley stuff
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Cant say it better than him.
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I’m changing my opinions on pro choice. It seems like only liberals are pro choice and I’m okay if they abort their own.
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Personally, I'm pro-choice
But I don't have to carry the little bastard clones
So I give considerable leeway to whoever does.
It's a crap shoot
Some people throw snake eyes
Reasonable people can disagree where the line is crossed from legal termination to murder
But, we can't go back to the days of coat hangers in dark alleys
Imho
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No, I'm pretty sure abortion is just a term for..
"Phew! Dodged a bullet."
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Carlin was a funny, brilliant, communicator. Unfortunately, negative early life experiences shaped his worldview. Much of comedy lives in the extremes. The bit posted above does that. It’s all true... but it’s not true for all. Carlin hated “group think”, yet the only way to make that comedy work is to create a group that doesn’t really exist... and attack it’s absurdity.
Oh well, he was he was anti-religion. He wasn’t “atheist” per-say but believed most (if not all) concepts of God were BS. Well... now he knows if he was right.
Jon Stewart did a great interview with Carlin. In it you don’t see the arrogant, angry comedian you see on stage. You see a normal guy working through the things of life like everyone else... but with the ability to craft words and thoughts in a funny way.
Abortion is a tough one. In it you have to choose between two people who want the same thing. Life.
The mother wants to live her life the way she wants. The fetus wants to live. Me- I think you have to protect those who have no voice. Those who cannot protect themselves... yet... at the same time... how do you try to control what happens inside of another person’s body?
I understand the dilemma. So I am not un-sympathetic to a woman’s right to choose. It will forever be one of life’s unsolvable arguments.
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Carlin is hit or miss for me
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Allow safe abortions - what choice is there (no pun intended) with all the idiots that refuse to use contraception. I have zero issue with Federal Government not paying for it.
Go China on people and limit children based on economics - On welfare, pop out a few then tie it up. Too many unraised peeps and failure fathers, just so they can get an extra check a month. This is a big factor in crime when peeps have nothing but gangs to raise them.
If communities are not responsible, and continue not to be - their fucking problem. Government is not a solution for being a shitty human.
And - Kill all the Death Row fuckers (quickly and cheaply)
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We need a license to drive and to do other things, like hunt, etc.
I believe we should have a license to bring another human into this world.
I have seen too many shitty "parents" that should never have been allowed to procreate.
At the minimum, it would hopefully disqualify the idiots who leave their offspring inside a hot car until it dies.
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What would be the criteria?
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You have to pass a certain level of intelligence.
You have to have a job or some other stable source of income.
Your living situation should be at a certain level.
Smarter folks than me could fill in the finer details, but this should be a good foundation.
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I want to know if the baby is pro choice.
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They say the soul enters the body in the 7th week of gestation. It's when the part of the brain that makes dmt is formed. It is also when the sex of the baby can be known.
And too many people are pro birth not pro life. Alot of the people who rant that it is killing a life rant about welfare too. You make a woman have a baby she can't afford then you gotta be ok w those services.
I agree that preventing pregnancy is the answer. But then again alot of pro lifers are anti birth control. Nobody will ever accuse those people of common sense.
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It's definitely anti-TOS
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I totally agree about parents having to be licensed but I don't know how that could work except for after the fact because how do you not allow people to screw. But once you have a baby it would be a great way to teach the dummies. It would be like traffic court. Hopefully most people want to be good parents and some just don't know how.
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Having paid Child Support for 18 years, abortion sometimes, ain't that bad..
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Maybe we won’t have so many liberals in the future since they like to kill their unborn child.
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Honestly this topic shouldn’t even be a discussion for males because you guys aren’t the ones going through it.
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^ so sexist, what happened to gender equality?
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As to George Carlin, I offer these snippets that I recall from his show:
As the TV News' Weather-Guy:
"...and now for tonight's forecast: It's gonna be.....DARK!"
As the TV News' Hippy-Dippy Sports Guy:
"And now lets run down the scores: 3-2, 6-1, 4-1 and 8-7.
And we also have a partial score: New York 7"
Can't watch TV News and recall Carlin's take on how inane the local newscasts really are. Pablum.
My .02
hocman
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I do believe in gender equality but a lot of times it’s the men telling women to get abortions.
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This is an IDIOTIC argument/post.
You're a guy, at least that's what the info on your profile says.
It's NOT UP TO YOU AND YOU HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO SAY, nor should you, in whether a woman should or shouldn't get an abortion. That's a decision only a woman can make and I'm sure EVERY woman who's ever had one has struggled with the decision.
The real question is why do men think that they have any right to make a reproductive decision for women? Do you believe that women are too stupid to know what's best for them?
Atticus Finch.
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For those that are pro life its not about the woman. Its about the living being inside her that has no voice to say please don't kill me.
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AF to answer your question….Yes. 
Thanks Louis!
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'For those that are pro life its not about the woman. Its about the living being inside her that has no voice to say please don't kill me.'
What a crock of shit. If you really feel that way then take COMPLETE AND TOTAL financial responsibility for the him/her. You personally will feed, clothe, shelter and educate them. Don't tell her there are other options. YOU take responsibility.
It's about control and nothing more.
Atticus Finch
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prolife is for prudes!!!!!!!!!
abortion is what all the cool cats do!!!!!!!
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Atticus Finch is a cool cat!!!!
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Allison Snow is also a Kool Kat !!!!!!!!
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Lol could you imagine if that were the new standard. If you want to save a life you are responsible for them financially.
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Tough questions!
Hopefully, any clones I might have produced have already died from their horrible deformities.
My seed is tainted
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Got nothing to do with me knowing what it's like to be pregnant, it's the fact that I can't get pregnant.
It takes two for a woman to get pregnant and yet to you it's just her that has the responsibility to prevent it. Way to take responsibility.
Or, a woman gets raped or a girl gets abused and gets pregnant because of it, you would make her carry it to term because your the moral and ethical authority and you know better then a woman what she should do or shouldn't do regardless of how that child was conceived.
I don't think any woman should be ashamed if they did have one. It's none of my business. Nor is it my business how she reached their decision. What is my business is that I know I don't have any say in what they do unless I'm the father then my feeling should be taken into consideration.
As far as it goes if they want to have a party, have one, I'm not as sanctimonious as you so I don't really care. Bit I'm glad she's, if not happy with her decision, at least knows she made the right one for her and can live with the decision..
Atticus Finch
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So... you are from the Dave Chapelle School of thought on this?
“If she has the right to kill it. I should have the right to abandon it.”
Atticus, it’s not about control. The world overall gets easier if abortion is allowed, but easier isn’t always better.
There is no shortage of parents willing to adopt. So “financial responsibility is a non-argument. There is a long line to adopt those that make it full term.
We live in a weird world. People who are pro life... are often for the death penalty. People’s who are pro-choice often oppose the death penalty.
Who can figure it out?
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I agree that ultimately it’s up to the woman, but that doesn’t mean men don’t have a right to their opinions & cant have input on a human being they create imo.
If a man fucks up and gets a lady pregnant before he or she is not ready to take the responsibility of parenthood, I think it should be a serious premeditated decision, even though the pregnancy wasn’t or even if it was planned and there is a change of heart.
Im just pondering whether we are being honest with what is actually happening biologically.
Thanks for all your comments, very thought provoking
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I know someone who works at a women's clinic (not Plannned Parent) drug addicts, mental issues, immature with low IQ's, they have kid after kid, passing them off to relatives virtually no plan, drug addicts during pregnancy, there prior children have been taken by child service's and yet there having another. I'm not a fan of abortion, but there are too many babys born that are not going to have a chance in life.
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@kml
Would have liked more input from the ladies
Not sure why men’s opinions can’t provoke thoughts though
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