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Locked. No further comments permitted. Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo,
Aug 2 2020 02:53PM more by Grumpy_Butthead
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Be tried for 2nd degree murder, manslaughter, or just get a slap on the wrist?

At issue is a directive that Mr. Cuomo’s administration delivered in late March, effectively ordering nursing homes to accept coronavirus patients from hospitals.

      
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Aug 2 2020 02:56PM     link to this

No, he is being praised by the main stream media for doing an amazing job in dealing with Covid-19
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Aug 2 2020 03:00PM     link to this

NY is doing well now. I have to think that some of that is due to his leadership.
He made a bad mistake. The difference, unlike Trump with his many mistakes, is that we didn't know better at the time.
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Aug 2 2020 03:15PM     link to this

What do you mean we didn't know better....

Look at what Florida did at that same time...they didn't send Covid-19 patients back to the convalescent or assisted living facilities. They isolated them.

Bad mistake...no it was a fatal mistake. He is doing a little better, but fucked up pretty good to begin with.

New York represents 5.8% of the U.S population, but currently accounts for 8.8% of the total confirmed cases and 20.8% of the DEATHS.

OOPS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Aug 2 2020 03:18PM     link to this


We didn’t know it would be a bad idea that putting patients with, what at the time was thought to be a highly infectious extremely deadly virus, into the same building containing a bunch of folks whom a stiff wind could kill. Are you serious with that statement? We didn’t know any better? Surely Cuomo couldn’t have thought it to be a great idea or even a good one.

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Aug 2 2020 03:21PM     link to this

Shows you what I know I thought manslaughter at a minimum.

So you make a mistake and only a few 1000 people die you're doing a good job?

I smell politics at its finest. Instead of his excuses perhaps he could remember who said the buck stops here.

No way that guy would accept his responsibilities. He is just a murderer .

He might as well get away with it Ted Kennedy did
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Aug 2 2020 03:34PM     link to this

They opened Javits Center and did not use it to its fullest....eventually closing it after treating only 1,000 patients. Trump mobilized the hospital ship and it wasn't used. Cuomo had other resources. New York City got a little dicey, but the immediate decision was to send the Covid old people back into their facilities. That was the opposite of Florida and they didn't have the deaths NY did.
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Aug 2 2020 03:42PM     link to this

What would I have done

I have a bunch of people in failing health. I'll put a bunch of highly infectious people with them so I can have more beds somewhere else.

While I'm at it I'll turn the felons loose on the public so they don't get covid 19.

That way the felons can kill a bunch of innocent people and create a smaller population.

Also freeing up more beds.

The minimum punishment should be manslaughter

The crime of killing a human being without malice aforethought, or otherwise in circumstances not amounting to murder.

Seems like a very accurate description for what he did
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Aug 2 2020 04:13PM     link to this

Hindsight is 20-20, and y’all the political ones. This is conservative media talking point number one about Cuomo.
jazz51
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Aug 2 2020 04:15PM     link to this

Hindsight is 20-20

And when was that mentioned regarding ANYTHING Trump has done.....double fucking standard.
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Aug 2 2020 04:16PM     link to this

So I hit somebody with my car I just say I'm sorry and drive on.

Manslaughter
Night-Rider
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Aug 2 2020 04:19PM     link to this

How Cuomo has handled the virus since April has been textbook good governance. Fauci basically said as much. It’s a large reason why they aren’t seeing new cases spring up like they are doing elsewhere. And no, the virus hasn’t burned through NYC. Seropositivities are too low. What’s keeping NYC together in part is social distancing and mask wearing because people there know better after what they’ve gone through.
Night-Rider
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Aug 2 2020 04:20PM     link to this

Cuomo didn’t hit anyone with his car. Bad analogy.
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Aug 2 2020 04:21PM     link to this

Trump keeps on making the same mistakes over and over again. He can’t learn.
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Aug 2 2020 04:32PM     link to this

He helped kill over 6200 people and you're giving him a pat on the back

Manslaughter is not corrected after the fact.

Just for doing something right doesn't correct killing people because of one's mistakes.

Let a jury make that decision.
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Aug 2 2020 04:56PM     link to this

^You're ridiculous. He didn't commit manslaughter.
Grumpy_Butthead
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Aug 2 2020 04:59PM     link to this

Oh you're the judge and jury?

Let a jury decide
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Aug 2 2020 05:07PM     link to this

So he can fuck up totally and completely in March and April, but now that his state accounts for almost 21% of the deaths and only 5.8% of the population he is ok now.

So a serial killer who takes out 25 people in July but doesn't hurt anyone in August, we just give him a pass.... Great logic.
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Aug 2 2020 05:08PM     link to this

Butt of course
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Aug 2 2020 05:23PM     link to this

Sounds good, let's start charging people for their negligence. Go ahead and start at the top.
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Aug 2 2020 05:28PM     link to this

You kidding me?
In a blog almost 2 months ago, i named Cuomo one of the greatest serial killers since Mao & Stalin....
I stand by that charge.

Next greatest serial killer, maybe first, in this pandemic.........

You fucking idiots that got political with Hydroxy and especially the media, WHO, and CDC

Here are the words from one of the foremost epidemiologists in the country back in fucking MAY!

"Professor Harvey Risch, M.D., Ph.D., is a researcher at the Yale School of Public Health with a specialty in cancer etiology, prevention and early diagnosis, and epidemiologic methods.

He recently studied the efficacy of hydroxychloroquine (used in conjunction with two other drugs) to treat people infected with COVID-19 and concluded that the approach should be “widely available” in the fight against the current pandemic.

The results of his research are published in the American Journal of Epidemiology"
Link attached!!!!!!!!!
Night.Rider? You should be ashamed of yourself thinking your spreadsheet is more important than the science.

AGAIN, watch what these 9 doctors have to say about it......it's not short but you fucking idiots need it pounded into your heads. Forget that it's Charlie Kirk.......JUST WATCH THE DOCTORS, second link

Because you hate Agent Orange so much, you've killed thousands of people.........yes YOU fucking idiots..........

And, you know who you are.
BLM lives matter, hah!
How about everybody who doesn't want to die of Covid's lives matter, you dumb fucks


Attached Links
https://medicine.yale.edu/news-article/26218/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cR3O_82yP6o
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Aug 2 2020 05:30PM     link to this

Damn fubar at the keyboard?
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Aug 2 2020 05:33PM     link to this

"Hindsight is 20-20"

Why does that only seem to apply to the left?
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Aug 2 2020 05:34PM     link to this

The hospitals in NY were never overflowing. That's a bunch of garbage misinformation. Were never even close. Trump sent cuomo the hospital ship and turned the javits center into a temporary hospital. Hardly used. On top of that cuomo bitched about needing 40k ventilators, Trump sent 4k and that idiot cuomo put them in storage lmao. You know what you dont do with covid patients? You dont put them in nursing homes!!!! Thats why u had hospitals built. Everyone knew back then that the elderly were most vulnerable. Its premeditated murder. 5 governors did that. All are Democrats.
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Aug 2 2020 05:45PM     link to this

Fubs wishes he could pen prose that well
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Aug 2 2020 05:49PM     link to this

Just waiting for:
Happy
WorldAss
Detroit
Doofy
and the rest of the herd to thunder in with their idiotic, non-factual diatribes about Agent Orange

This isn't about Trump
It's about American lives and you dunderheads have essentially bought into the bullshit that is killing them but you think it's ok as long as you scream "Trump bad"


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Aug 2 2020 05:49PM     link to this

Basically he does

Almost identically
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Aug 2 2020 05:50PM     link to this

Fubalicious is angrier

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Aug 2 2020 05:52PM     link to this



Don't joke about agent Orange.
That shit killed a lot of people not just foliage.

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Aug 2 2020 06:03PM     link to this

You mean a gag order may have been issued ?
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Aug 2 2020 07:04PM     link to this

GUILLOTINE after they castrate him
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Aug 2 2020 08:58PM     link to this

Cuomo issued his directive on March 25th and the Javits Center wasn't ready to receive patients until April 7. That being said, it was a misguided and absurd directive, which eventually will significantly tarnish Cuomo's reputation. He is being criticized in NY by fellow Dems and, in time, the broadcast channels, MSNBC and, perhaps, CNN, will report the story.

Cuomo's defense seems to be: 1) needed to free up hospital space - true, but other states had the same problem, to a lesser degree, and didn't send patients back to nursing homes; 2) even if the policy was flawed, it wasn't responsible for the great majority of deaths in nursing homes. If you want to get into the weeds, read the attached report. It has been criticized by neutral observers.

https://health.ny.gov/press/releases/2020/docs/nh_factors_report.pdf
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Aug 2 2020 09:04PM     link to this

Regarding HCQ, even Alex Berenson the most prominent COVID-19 denier admits that HCQ doesn't work and should be avoided. There are five well-designed studies that show HCQ does not provide any benefit. It is widely acknowledged that the Detroit study (Henry Ford) hospital was deeply flawed. But, if you get COVID-19 go ahead and take it. Hopefully, it will have a placebo effect.
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Aug 2 2020 10:05PM     link to this

He obviously messed up pretty bad. Only Dumbocrats , CNN and MSLSD will give him a pass.
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Aug 2 2020 10:14PM     link to this

Bullshit, fuck Alex Berenson....he's an obvious idiot as are you.
Looking forward to you getting the virus with HCQ within reach while you blithely ignore Dr. Risch's words. Will happily put that on your tombstone.
Did you even watch what the doctors had to say?
Course not, pathologically "progressive" science denier.

Cite and link your so called 5 studies.
Don't tell me, Lancet and JAMA?
Better yet, the morons who dosed at 2.5 times recommended?
Even better, the dumbshits who tried it just prior to death on the poor vets, lol.

Unlike you, I don't have an agenda other than saving lives. Didn't vote foe Trump and not defending him. HCQ is about as dangerous as Tylenol, an anti-malarial used for 60 years. I've had 3 friends saved by it so far and expect more. The word in the medical community is they are ignoring the "official" word and using it now on their patients with both zinc and zpac.
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Aug 2 2020 10:24PM     link to this

CA now has more cases of the Trump Virus than New York has.
The deaths in CA are raising too to almost 10,000 now.
New York is doing a better job at managing things right now, better than any big major city.
They got hit really really hard but bounced back and are continuing to manage things.
Their curve is low and flattened.
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Aug 2 2020 10:52PM     link to this

You saying Nuisance is doing a shitty job?
Or, Garcetti?
LA is half of CA deaths with a quarter it's population.

There are hot spots popping up all over the world, even in countries that looked to be under control. Fact is, we still don't know enough about the virus vector, true count of confirmed cases and carriers.
For all we know, NYC may be burned thru.
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Aug 2 2020 10:54PM     link to this

Pelosi calls it the Trump virus so now Dumb Doofy parrots the worthless old hag.
What a tool.

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Aug 2 2020 11:27PM     link to this

If 155,000 died during the Obama Administration you motherfuckers would be calling it the Obama Virus. Trump fucked up the response and it happened on his watch so he owns it.
All 155,000 Americans and others injured from it.
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.........Obama Virus, The Black Plague some dog whistle dumb shit like that.
That absolutely would have a happened.
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GBD - you are a fucking moron. I read the piece you posted about Dr. Risch and everything he said is anecdotal. Read the twitter posts of Jason Pogue (jpogue1). He actually presents a lot of data that shows HCQ doesn't work. And for every Dr. Risch there are 100's of academic physicians, without an agenda, who don't believe HCQ is effective. Get this through your pea-sized brain. The only data worth taking about is from a well-designed clinical trial. By the way, tylenol isn't without hazards; it can lead to liver toxicity which is why FDA restricted the amount you can take per day. Of course, you of all people are concerned about saving lives. If that wasn't such an absurd and ridiculous statement I would laughing until my belly hurt.
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Aug 2 2020 11:57PM     link to this

I sentence him to be the first to get the Vaccine.
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YES!!!!!!!!!!
Let the VILLAGE IDIOT GoBallDeepINHisAsshole be the first one to get the vaccine

He's already a shill monkey let him be a test money too!!
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Aug 3 2020 12:31AM     link to this

Never invade China.
Grumpy_Butthead
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Aug 3 2020 12:44AM     link to this

Damn I wish I was young enough to understand the new math
Here I was thinking 32,780 dead in NY was a bad job.
At least now I know where to go if I need a job.
I can go to New York and get praise for screwing up.
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Aug 3 2020 01:04AM     link to this

New York has 32,000 but they flatten the curve and actually had no covid deaths for awhile.
CA is almost at 10,000 deaths. Who knows what state will have the most 6 months from now.
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