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Locked. No further comments permitted.Unprecedented amount of lying by Trump
Aug 24 2020 02:17PM more by Sly69
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Anyone with an ounce of objectivity and a willingness to fact check Trump can't deny that he is a pathological liar in chief. It is just beyond doubt. They have lost count how many lies, mis-representations and half truths he has told. Its just staggering. Want a primer? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veracity_of_statements_by_Donald_Trump
      
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Night-Rider
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Aug 24 2020 03:57PM     link to this

The problem isn't that he lies so much. The problem is that it doesn't matter enough to people. He still won in 2016 even though we all knew he lies through his teeth.
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Aug 24 2020 04:15PM     link to this

And Dumbocrats don’t lie? Their entire convention, every speech, was a long, long, long series of outright lies.

They are all politicians, dining at the public trough.
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Aug 24 2020 05:13PM     link to this


Lie all the fuck you want - keep the economy going, keep country safe and start shooting the faggots burning down cities.

kthx.
Sly69
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Aug 24 2020 07:18PM     link to this

Trump is burning down our fucking democracy to enrich himself and his friends and all you Trump-fluffers can think about is the minor destruction that took place in some cities. You can repair damaged building but you may never get back your democracy. How much proof is enough? Apparently there is no amount of evidence that will change Trump- fluffeers opinion of this psycho. Even his own sister acknowledges what an unprincipled scumbag he is.https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/08/23/trumps-sister-maryanne-trump-barry-calls-him-liar-recordings/3423640001/
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Aug 25 2020 01:11AM     link to this

you have a date with the VTB...get your shit in order

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Aug 25 2020 02:49AM     link to this

"Ex-RNC Chair Michael Steele Rips Trump Voters: 'You're Getting Punked'"
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Aug 25 2020 03:04AM     link to this

Unprecedented? Oh my!
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Aug 25 2020 03:33AM     link to this

when I see shit like this-

Since leaving his position as RNC chair in 2011, Steele has evolved into one of Trump's most prominent Republican critics.
When Trump expressed frustration behind closed doors with people coming to the US from "shithole countries," Steele called it racist.


I know he's just a trump hater with TDS - DISMISSED. he probably said something about good people on both sides also




loved the jeff flake interview today...he got smoked out as just being a trump hater...couldn't even talk about the policies biden was for or he was dismissing all the things he personally was for and biden was against.

thinks biden will be able to work across the aisle and get things done? he's offered, so it will happen

trump has never ever offered to work with democrats

PA970deep
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Aug 25 2020 07:38AM     link to this

The leftists are very desperate. No convention, Trump is tied in Minnesota, stupid joe underperforming in battleground states and with blacks and Hispanics. The dnc was the epitome of grievance politics. No ideas and couldn't even defend Biden's record. Rnc was much, much better. Only stupid communists and that guy who insists that cnn is a credible source think otherwise
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Aug 25 2020 08:00AM     link to this

Waiting for the hospital count for attendees.

Rnc night 1 was so full of bullshit.

Here are highlights of utter bullshit.

Summary
Speakers in the first night of the 2020 Republican National Convention engaged in political spin, particularly in making claims about Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden’s policy positions:

- Several speakers at the convention misleadingly portrayed the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act of 2017, which President Donald Trump signed, as exclusively benefiting the middle class, while criticizing Biden’s tax plan as hurting “working families.” The Republican law largely benefited the wealthy, while the Biden proposed tax increases would fall mainly on the top 1% of taxpayers.

- Trump claimed Democrats want to get rid of postal workers, when Democrats have repeatedly tried over Trump’s objections to get $25 billion in emergency funding for the U.S. Postal Service.

- Trump wrongly claimed, “It used to take 17 years, 18 years, 20 years, 21 years … to get approval to build a highway,” but that under his administration, “we have it down to two years.” The latest statistics show the same or a bit longer median time in fiscal 2019 for projects to complete the environmental impact process than it took during the last five years of the Obama administration.

- Donald Trump Jr. said his father “built the greatest economy our country has ever seen.” Not true. Economic growth and job growth have been faster under previous presidents.

- A number of speakers falsely claimed that Biden supported defunding the police, part of a campaign to depict the Democratic nominee as soft on crime.


And the list of lies goes on and long.
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PA970deep
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Aug 25 2020 09:17AM     link to this

Biden will raise taxes on 82% of Americans. Trump cut taxes that benefited 83% of americans, largely helping middle class. The Democrats have been wanting, in the middle of the pandemic, tax cuts for wealthy new Yorkers and Californians. The party of the wealthy and elite is the Democrats. Theyre the party of the 1%. Biden said he wants to ban fracking and fossil fuels. He said so from the start of his campaign. Wants to achieve that by 2030 or 2035. Stupid joe definitely said he wants to defund the police. He said reallocate money from police to some stupid Marxist crap. Did he use the word defund? No. But he will take away funds from police.
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Aug 25 2020 09:24AM     link to this

Uh, no, Trump did not. The economic benefits of the “tax cut” have already passed, or has everyone forgotten already? And covid lockdown just made things go from bad to worse.

No, not everyone suffered. Those with the means actual did save, but that’s because they had to resources to diversify.
Those on the bubble did not.

It matters to me because I had to watch tenants go thanks to Trump.
PA970deep
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Aug 25 2020 09:27AM     link to this

The Trump economy was the greatest economy in a long, long time. Name me the last president who presided over an economy with 3.5% unemployment rate? Not obama, not clinton, not Reagan. Whether u like it or not that's a fact. I would see a lot more now hiring signs under Trump than under Hussein. Plus people gave up looking for work under Hussein and came back under Trump. Labor participation was higher under Trump than under obama. I would hear constantly about people needing to work 2 or 3 jobs to make ends meet. I stopped hearing that once Trump came along. That was why Trump won in Rust belt states. He promised higher wages and better wage jobs and he delivered. Rnc night 1 eclipsed the entire grievance politics, orange man bad dnc. It had real people talking to us. Not Hollywood, green haired, societal rejects.
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Aug 25 2020 10:22AM     link to this

Funny thing is..all Trump did is take away Government overreach and our Country flourished.


The only thing that Messed up our tax benefits and our Economy was China.



Trump is going to win in a few months.

Just brace for it now
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Aug 25 2020 11:51AM     link to this

He WILL win again.. The democrats have only themselves to blame.
oldbaldy69
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Aug 25 2020 11:57AM     link to this

Trump is a liar. everyone knows it and his supporters accept it as just hyperbole. pointing out his individual lies really has no impact on most people

on the other hand, Biden is objectively evil as is Kamala so how the fuck can we elect a good person?

tell me, please, I really want to know
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Aug 25 2020 12:22PM     link to this

^^^^broke little dick
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Aug 25 2020 12:25PM     link to this

RNC night 1: 440k viewers on Cspan
Dnc night 1: 76k viewers on Cspan

BAM!!!
jazz51
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Aug 25 2020 12:36PM     link to this

Biden has proposed to repeal Trump's tax cut...thus it will affect EVERYONE that got any tax relief with the Trump plan. Corporate taxes will go back to 40%....and will be passed along to all of us.

Trump's tax cut also included upping the standard deductions and increased the small person tax credit....those will revert back to prior levels, hitting mostly middle and lower income families.

And then he will tax the higher wage earners.
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Aug 25 2020 01:09PM     link to this

Unprecedented amount of lying by POLITICIANS.


FIFY.
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Aug 25 2020 01:16PM     link to this

The corporate tax rate prior to the 2017 tax cut was 35%, not 40%. More importantly, the effective tax rate for profitable Fortune 500 companies was 21%. It is now a whopping 11%. When you purchase a car for 40K with a MSRP of 50K do you tell people you paid 50K for the car - SMH. In 2011, the Republican House closed down the government because it refused to raise the debt level.
Trump and supply-siders claimed that the additional revenues generated from the tax cut would more than pay for the "cost" of the tax cut - $1.5T (over a ten-year period). The current data shows the opposite - the expected revenue increase has not materalized an this is prior to COVID-19. But, hey,only the Democrats are the hypocrites. The middle class did get a tax cut but it was crumbs.

Let us not forget that on this the 25th day of August, 2020, the U.S. economy is abysmal. Worst unemployment since the great depression, biggest decrease in GDP over a 6-month period in U.S. history, largest number of unemployed Americans in history. Tens of thousands of airline workers being furloughed. A leisure industry that has collapsed, A commercial real estate market that will soon collapse. I don't give a fuck what happened prior to 2020 I only care about the reality now.

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Aug 25 2020 01:16PM     link to this

Plenty of people will see it as the absolute truth.
Pjforfun
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Aug 25 2020 01:55PM     link to this

Can you see the hypocrisy of someone from this site

Calling someone else a liar?
jazz51
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Aug 25 2020 02:15PM     link to this

Oops... sorry .I quoted what Biden would have as the individual tax top rate. Yes, the corporate top rate WAS 35%.
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Aug 25 2020 02:23PM     link to this

Trumps tax reform was passed December 2017

U.S. Tax Revenue by Year


Fiscal Year Revenue
FY 2021 $3.86 (estimated)
FY 2020 $3.71 trillion (estimated)
FY 2019 $3.46 trillion (actual)
FY 2018 $3.33 trillion
FY 2017 $3.32 trillion

Sure looks like the Federal government is getting more tax revenue to me.

justintime55
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Aug 25 2020 02:35PM     link to this

Getting more Yes from all of US, except the top 1 percent , we need to open our eyes
jazz51
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Aug 25 2020 02:41PM     link to this

^^^^
What is a fair share.

Top 1% of Americans makes about 20% of all dollars earned in America, they pay 39% of all taxes paid to the American government.
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Aug 25 2020 02:42PM     link to this

Those are nominal amounts. Don't take into account inflation and growth if the tax cuts weren't enacted. If you just take inflation into account there was a decrease from 2017-2018. When you factor in growth, without the tax cuts, it is significantly less.
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Aug 25 2020 02:42PM     link to this

And you do know that the top 1% is people making over about $450,000 annually.
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Aug 25 2020 02:47PM     link to this

Growth is exactly one of the expectations from the tax cut...Remember it was a Jobs Growth bill.

And those increases are far more pronounced that inflation which is probably around 2% for 2018. Those increases are double or triple the rate of inflation.
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Aug 25 2020 02:48PM     link to this

Nominal.....7% and 4% increases in total federal revenue .....guess that is 'crumb's like Nancy says.
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Aug 25 2020 03:00PM     link to this

Riiiiight! Fucking Dem light bulbs and their bitches the media speak no truth!
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Aug 25 2020 03:23PM     link to this

He is going to kill business growth by upping the corporate tax rate from 21 to 28%.

And many of those $400,000 wage earners are small businessmen with partnerships and they pay at using individual rates....so they won't be adding jobs as they pay more in taxes.

No one ever talks about whether Government actually NEEDS all the money they are collecting. The waste is horrendous but raise taxes and not look at expenses.
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Aug 25 2020 03:33PM     link to this

I get so much crap for being a latino immigrant for Trump. He's not the nicest guy but Ive had to work for executves like him throughout my career - they are hard, rough personabilities, high expectations, and are always charging full speed ahead. They get the job done. He may exagerate to make a point but doesn't manipulate like I see Democrats do time and again. There is no way a sane person can choose Biden as President...as an agent of change after 47 years in politics? so senile he can't have an ad hoc conversation or walk outside by himself? Even his DNC speech was a rehash of past promises...word for word. That is why the RNC had 5x the viewers of DNC! 5 to 1 difference!
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Aug 25 2020 03:33PM     link to this

a little fact checking

"Biden will raise taxes on 82% of Americans. Trump cut taxes that benefited 83% of americans...."

the first sentence is absurd on its face. unless Biden implements a poll tax (never gonna happen) or a national sales tax that applies to all of us he can't raise taxes on 82% of Americans because much less than 82% of Americans owe federal taxes

as for the second sentence, perhaps i'm part of a small minority, but Trump's tax changes cost me a boatload of deductions starting with property taxes. i definitely did not gain from his package of changes. in fact i'm pretty sure that the value of residential real estate owned by me and my family in states with high property taxes has been hit hard by the cap on the property tax deductions. in addition, i am paying a lot more for certain kinds of products which i suspect is because of the idiotic tariffs Trump has put on foreign goods. those tariffs are a hidden tax on all of us buying such products

imho, if someone looks at the full impact of Trump's tax cuts and tariffs and does the math carefully they will find that much less than 83% of Americans benefited from the changes he signed into law

also:

"Biden's proposal is to repeal the tax cut for those making over 400k per year, not everyone. That affects roughly 10% of the population."

incomes over 400k are less than 1% of the population. even if we used household incomes (counting both incomes in two earner households) i suspect the 400k families wouldn't be much more than 1%, if that
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Aug 25 2020 03:52PM     link to this

Do you all believe taxing businesses actually takes money from the business....NOPE.

They pass along the cost of their goods and service to YOU and ME.

Wealthy people are the ones who actually start businesses, finance businesses, add jobs.

They are the ones who invest in their companies to make them grow. Which produces more jobs and wealth in this country.


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Aug 25 2020 03:54PM     link to this

Did we forget the additional four trillion dollar deficit under Trump.
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Aug 25 2020 03:56PM     link to this

^^^^

pandemic??????????????
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Aug 25 2020 03:59PM     link to this

Won’t have to spend that much if dumb trump didn’t lie and let the pandemic get out of control.
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Aug 25 2020 04:03PM     link to this

Fuck the stupidity I see in these blogs.... blows my mind! Fucking Dems will never get it!
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Aug 25 2020 04:22PM     link to this

@jazz51

From 2017-2018, ("the big year") the increase in revenues was 0.4% and the inflation rate was 2.44%. No matter how you cut it that isn't a tax revenue increase.

From 2018-2019, revenues increased by 4% and the inflation rate was 1.8%. However, in order to make a meaningful assessment you need to compare the projected revenues without the tax cuts to actual revenues with the tax cuts. The numbers from the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) show that there was an decrease in revenues with the tax cuts compared to no tax cuts. When you just account for corporate taxes the drop is much steeper.
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Aug 25 2020 04:24PM     link to this

How do you get 7% when going from 3.32 T to 3.33T. Maybe, you should get a new calculator.
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Aug 25 2020 04:27PM     link to this

Ok, let's talk about fairness.

I guess everyone is fully ok that a person making $600,000 in California under Biden will pay $237,600 (39.6%) in Federal income tax and a CA state income tax of $73,800 (12.3%).

So you make $600,000 and you get to keep 48.1% of it...paying $311,400.....
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