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Locked. No further comments permitted.Betting odds are now basically tied for the 2020 presidential election.
Aug 30 2020 09:22PM more by Night-Rider
Tags: Current Events

• Biden: 50.6%
• Trump: 49.1%

Biden was leading 61-37 just one month ago.

From Realclearpolitics via Frank Luntz @ twitter.


Are the polls showing Biden leading in all of those states simply not accurate again? Or are they just reflecting results from a couple of weeks ago?
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Aug 30 2020 09:27PM     link to this

That graph is bad news for the Dems. It looks like that Christian fish thingy.
Night-Rider
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Aug 30 2020 09:29PM     link to this

Night-Rider
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Aug 30 2020 10:41PM     link to this

I am really depressed tonight because I’ve changed my mind and think Trump will win. Strong personality is going to carry him. Biden is too much a wet noodle.

Mr.Horndog
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Aug 30 2020 10:46PM     link to this

There are too many Americans that believe the propaganda.
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Aug 30 2020 11:32PM     link to this

Frank Luntz is a fucking Psycho, The guy has a replica Oval Office and Lincoln bedroom in his house. WTF!!! How can you take anything this sick fuck says seriously!!!

Night-Rider
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Aug 31 2020 03:13AM     link to this

Another interesting tidbit I found from a David Shor from Twitter:

"Post-MLK-assasination race riots reduced Democratic vote share in surrounding counties by 2%, which was enough to tip the 1968 election to Nixon. Non-violent protests *increase* Dem vote, mainly by encouraging warm elite discourse and media coverage. http://omarwasow.com/Protests_on_Voting.pdf."

Interesting thing is, this guy, David Shor got fired from his data science job for this "insensitive" tweet.

You shouldn't get fired if it's the truth. Telling truth is more important than being sensitive when you're reporting facts.

This is the abstract of the paper Shor listed in his tweet:

"How do stigmatized minorities advance agendas when confronted with hostile ma- jorities? Elite theories of influence posit marginal groups exert little power. I propose the concept of agenda seeding to describe how activists use methods like disruption to capture the attention of media and overcome political asymmetries. Further, I hypothesize protest tactics influence how news organizations frame demands. Evaluating black-led protests between 1960 and 1972, I find nonviolent activism, particularly when met with state or vigilante repression, drove media coverage, framing, Congressional speech and public opinion on civil rights. Counties proximate to nonviolent protests saw presidential Democratic vote share among whites increase 1.3-1.6%. Protester-initiated violence, by contrast, helped move news agendas, frames, elite discourse and public concern toward
“social control.” In 1968, using rainfall as an instrument, I find violent protests likely caused a 1.6-7.9% shift among whites towards Republicans and tipped the election. Elites may dominate political communication but hold no monopoly."


How does that relate to today? Well, we're seeing violence in the streets. Evidence points to that politically helping Trump and could tip the election like it did for Nixon in 1968. Not condoning violence. Just explaining what may happen politically.

It would be ironic if the bit of hard truth that got that data scientist fired came true again.

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juliuscaesar1
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Aug 31 2020 03:22AM     link to this

NightRider, are you a David Hasselhoff fan?
GoBallsDeep
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Aug 31 2020 04:58AM     link to this

It's a theory anyway.
George Wallace siphoned a lot of votes
And, Humphrey was carrying LBJ's Vietnam baggage
So, the riots were just one factor

Either way, our choices this time
Are fucking awful
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Aug 31 2020 07:39AM     link to this

The betting odds may have changed because the big boys decided to hedge their bets considering what happened in 2016. I used to regularly bet on racehorses and if the odds on the favorite were unappealing I would look to put some money on a longshot even though I felt fairly certain that the favorite would win.
Quat
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Aug 31 2020 08:20AM     link to this

Hey USB, Your list doesn't mean shit. Just look at all the retaliatory actions Trump took against Chine because of the "China virus". Let's go over each action 1) _____ 2_____ 3____
Couple that with the great trade deal Trump cut with China. Remember that was a Hall of Fame deal by the master negotiator. China knows that Trump is a total patsy. They just don't like him because he sucks up more to Putin than to them.
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Aug 31 2020 08:45AM     link to this

I fucking hate Trump, racist cunt bastard, But I do think the fuckstick will win again, come on the best the dems can do is Biden/Harris we are fuck. Four more years of the fuckstir
Chucklaylo
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Aug 31 2020 09:53AM     link to this

I think GE has a better idea.
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Aug 31 2020 09:56AM     link to this

November 10th can’t come quick enough for me.
Quat
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Aug 31 2020 11:54AM     link to this

@KS - you getting married or divorced on November 10th? Either way, good luck.
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Aug 31 2020 12:43PM     link to this

I hope as in 2016, there were a lot of Trump voters who were laying low, because
they didn't want to be harassed, if it were known that they were voting for Trump.
Even with mail in voting, I hope that there is an announcement that Trump
has 270 electoral votes even before CA finished counting their ballots.
I would just love to laugh my ass off at all my Dem buddies who want Biden/Harris.
Too many states with "too close too call," could be a nightmare with mail in ballots.
Quat
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Aug 31 2020 01:37PM     link to this

If the pecking order existed, why did Obama win the nomination in 2008? He was at the bottom of the pecking order. Clinton barely edged out Sanders in 2016 and if it wasn't for the superdelegates Sanders probably would have been the nominee. Since McGovern got destroyed in the 1972 election, the Democrats have been very wary of nominating anyone from the left wing of the party. Carter, Mondale, Dukakis, Clinton, Gore and Hilary are all moderate Democrats. So, is Biden. It has nothing to do with being around for 50 years and everything to do with a party that is risk adverse. If the Republican candidate was anyone but Trump in 2016 they would have won in a landslide. Ditto for 2020.
Quat
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Aug 31 2020 01:39PM     link to this

Meant to say that if the Republicans had put up someone other than Trump in 2016, the Republicans would have won in a landslide.
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Aug 31 2020 02:56PM     link to this

A QAnon/Infowars addict complaining about political exaggeration. That is hysterical.
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Aug 31 2020 03:24PM     link to this

NightRider, Stop ignoring the question!!!!

ARE YOU A DAVID HASSELHOFF FAN???
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Aug 31 2020 03:33PM     link to this

Who isn't?

And who gives a fuck about projections lol....Wisconsin riots may be the best thing that happened for Trump.

People are tired of the violence and Middle America ain't like the Coast where whatever Dem runs will win, those are the important States. Why Trump will lose total votes but very good chance of winning Electoral College (and NO faggots cannot change that, how it is).
Night-Rider
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Aug 31 2020 04:05PM     link to this

No
juliuscaesar1
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Aug 31 2020 04:13PM     link to this

You're not??

WHY????
Night-Rider
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Aug 31 2020 04:43PM     link to this

I liked him in NR, but he's not a great actor.
Night-Rider
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Aug 31 2020 05:05PM     link to this

They updated the betting odds. Biden gained a little bit:

Biden: 52.1%
Trump: 48.4%

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Aug 31 2020 05:07PM     link to this

With the poll being soooo close, “Teflon Don” looks to be around for four more years.
juliuscaesar1
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Aug 31 2020 07:17PM     link to this

Crane, neither one of those guys can finish a gaffe-free speech.
Mr.Horndog
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Aug 31 2020 09:56PM     link to this

Republicans want to keep funneling taxpayer money into the Trump organization. The Trump family is playing Republicans and conservatives are too stupid to realize they're being duped.
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Aug 31 2020 09:58PM     link to this

Polls aren't designed to predict the future. They're designed to manipulate the future.
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Aug 31 2020 10:29PM     link to this

Yo Semite !


Quat
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Aug 31 2020 10:32PM     link to this

Not at all Triple S - they are designed to make certain people quite rich.

Juicy tidbit in Peter Baker's new book on Trump. Baker claims that when Trump was rushed to Walter Reed late last year it was an emergency visit and Pence was all set to take over as President. Baker doesn't have any info on the medical problem. I'm betting the Trumpster had a mini-stroke since they were getting ready to put him under. Explains why he had such problems walking down the steps at the Army-Navy game and has trouble getting out of a golf cart. Now, Biden may be cognitively impaired but Trump is a stroke waiting to happen. Just terrific - our two candidates are invalids.

Crane-Op - can you have your investigator buddies at Infowars check this story out. You know, the same ones that discovered Sandy Hook was a hoax. By the way, do the Sandy Hook kids still send you birthday cards?
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Aug 31 2020 10:40PM     link to this

S'up towel head?
GoBallsDeep
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Aug 31 2020 10:42PM     link to this

I'd be fine if he stroked out and someone else took over.
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