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jack nicklaus and his covid experierce
Oct 31 2020 08:40PM more by InsearchofStarfish
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Jack Nicklaus questions COVID death toll, took hydroxychloroquine to combat his own virus symptoms
Nicklaus said he and his wife battled the coronavirus in March


lots to unpack here
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InsearchofStarfish
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Oct 31 2020 08:59PM     link to this

Nicklaus, 80, said he knew two people whose parents had died from something other than COVID-19, and said the unnamed people were asked whether their deaths could be changed to COVID-19 and declined the request.

“The hospital gets more money with COVID death than they do another death,” the golf legend told the newspaper. “I’m sure there’s been a lot of that.”



think he is lying about this??


no country has shovelled more money to hospitals than America...the hospitals were under severe financial pressure with the lack of surgeries and other procedures they count on to make the money they need to make...all of the sudden that was shut down.

what's the extent of it? we don't know. there were two deadlines for the "high impact funding" of covid patients...and testing to qualify for covid bonuses was not required until SEPT 1st....all that was needed was doctor diag or statement on death certificate to qualify for the bonus...which was needed to hospital survival in most cases.

I'm sure this type of thing impacts our bad 2.8% number...I'm sure America's overall health/fitness comes into play.

besides the bad decisions with the nursing homes...not acknowledging any of these things to make trump look bad when bringing up death charts is disingenuous



Night-Rider
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Oct 31 2020 09:10PM     link to this

He might not be lying, but he might be being fed misinformation.

There is no solid evidence that hospitals are doing this.
Night-Rider
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Oct 31 2020 09:15PM     link to this

The COVID deaths estimate is backed up by an analysis of deaths that occur this year since March versus the average of deaths from the past few years during the same time frame. If anything, deaths are being underestimated.
GoBallsDeep
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Oct 31 2020 09:24PM     link to this

^ that he knows of
Hard to prove but the incentive is there
And, aren't all those hospital admins greedy as fuck?
So said Kamala when she was shilling for SEIU
And practically bankrupted some charity hospitals

InsearchofStarfish
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Oct 31 2020 09:28PM     link to this

is that always the first thing out of your brain??

the dude is the salt of the earth...80 years old and beloved by many

is it possible he has bad info? yes of course. do you think he would have questioned it a bit to understand what was going on a bit? definitely before saying it to the news??


SOMETIMES...just accept information...acknowledge that this is possible...the NEEDS and motivations are aligned to make something like this possible? YES? NO?


so you want to say NO...100 percent NO ?


GoBallsDeep
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Oct 31 2020 09:42PM     link to this

@ you trying to have a rational convo with that brain dead idiot with no ability to make an UNBIASED judgement call.

He's the Joe Biden of HX, made the wrong call on almost every issue on the site

jackrabbit33
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Oct 31 2020 09:46PM     link to this

"He might not be lying, but he might be being fed misinformation.

There is no solid evidence that hospitals are doing this."

From fact check.org which for sure protects leftist views...

"It is true, however, that the government will pay more to hospitals for COVID-19 cases in two senses: By paying an additional 20% on top of traditional Medicare rates for COVID-19 patients during the public health emergency, and by reimbursing hospitals for treating the uninsured patients with the disease (at that enhanced Medicare rate).

Both of those provisions stem from the Coronavirus Aid, Relief, and Economic Security Act, or CARES Act."


You combine that with the fact that hospital Administrators are greedy as fuck and set the protocol Dr's need to follow and can understand why people get COVID attached to death and sick visits regardless of the doctors opinion.

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InsearchofStarfish
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Oct 31 2020 09:55PM     link to this

I'm a glass half full guy with everything...I can flip him
Night-Rider
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Oct 31 2020 11:11PM     link to this

Again, I'll repeat for the stubborn and hard-of-hearing:

The COVID deaths estimate HAS BEEN VERIFIED by an analysis of deaths that took place this year since March versus the average of deaths from the past few years during the same time frame. If anything, deaths are being underestimated.
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Oct 31 2020 11:21PM     link to this

These deaths are known as excess deaths, deaths due to the pandemic.



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AFMadness
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Oct 31 2020 11:49PM     link to this

The same thing has been said by many others and no one seems to be listening. Good to hear though.
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