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remo_williams
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Hillary Clinton
Nov 4 2020 04:57PM more by remo_williams
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What I wonder to myself is if Hillary didn't run, and Joe was running in 2016, would we have had a Trump presidency?

Basically, the left can blame Hillary for Trump being elected in the first place
      
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dblednmike
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Nov 4 2020 05:03PM     link to this

I think Biden would have won in 2016. The margin was slim enough that a better candidate should have beat Trump, and almost anyone would have been a better candidate than Hillary.
GoBallsDeep
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Nov 4 2020 10:51PM     link to this

"Basically, the left can blame Obama for Trump being elected in the first place"

Fify

Obama was a divider and tyrant of the regulatory state.
That's why it was so easy for Trump to undo his "I've got a pen and a phone" Executive Orders
Regardless of Trump's personality and character issues, the Federal Register of rules & regs saw it's fewest pages in over 60 years.

If Biden were smart, which he's not, he'd leave it that way.
That's how you get to full employment and high labor participation rates
ESPECIALLY for minority groups and lower income workers
Its also how you prevent how you prevent homelessness and food insecurity
It's also how you don't lose mid term congressional seats
GoBallsDeep
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Nov 4 2020 10:52PM     link to this

And, Hillary was a hateful cunt
So, there was that too

GoBallsDeep
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Nov 4 2020 10:55PM     link to this

Well spoken Artie
You always bring such insight in your posts

Artie is such a hateful cunt
FIFM

GoBallsDeep
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Nov 4 2020 11:45PM     link to this

You really are a worthless rectal chancre sore, Artie mi amigo

Both sides will come up with bullshit while employing hired gun attorneys arguing tortured language that their guy is the anointed one. They're all the same, you idiot.

Did you recently get skull fucked by a BBC, or is this your normal thinking process and method of expression?

You can do better.
Chucklaylo
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Nov 5 2020 05:24AM     link to this

I believed Trump when he said Obama was the reason he ran in the first place.

Obama was always to lazy to try to get Congress to pass any of his agenda once he lost his super majority.
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Nov 5 2020 05:58AM     link to this

Although I didn’t vote for Joe in 20.... I probably would have voted for him in 16.

So... here is a news flash.... Joe could have carried California in 16
PA970deep
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Nov 5 2020 07:24AM     link to this

The fact that the election is this close is pathetic for the dems. It should've been called 2 days ago for biden. The polls said so. The media said so. But Trump is an extremely strong candidate, even with a pandemic and 7.9% unemployment. And with big tech and the media against him and with the dems stuffing the ballot boxes in all the swing states. Trump wins Ohio by 8 points but loses MI and WI? NO Way. They're sending ballots to homeless shelters in LA and ship them to NV, more votes in WI and MI than registered voters, every huge ballot dump goes to biden 100%. You notice there's never huge ballot dumps that favor Trump? And no way in hell does Biden out perform Obama in Detroit, Milwaukee and Philadelphia. Luckily Trump will go to Supreme Court and will win. Dems have gone full blown Hugo Chavez
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Nov 5 2020 07:31AM     link to this

Also Biden didn't run against Hillary in 2016 because he couldn't beat her. Hillary is much tougher and smarter than Joe is. Hillary wouldve skinned him. Joe had everything going in his favor this year and still can't pull it off. At least Hillary accomplished things on her own. Biden had big tech, the MSM covering up for him and the political establishment behind him and still comes up short lol.
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Nov 5 2020 08:06AM     link to this

Hillary would've had one of Joe's family members disappear if he challenged her
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Nov 5 2020 09:30AM     link to this

The 'huge ballot dumps' are mostly votes the states already have in hand, but have not yet counted. When they count them and release the numbers, that is the 'dump'.

In-person ballots usually get counted first, because they don't have to be de-enveloped, and have their signatures checked before they go in the counting machines, like mail-in ballots do. Thus, the mail-in ballots are showing up way more in the later counts, and these favor Biden because the Democrats pushed mail-in voting while the Repubs pushed in-person voting. Trump had a big boost in some of the early counts because he did a great job getting his voters to go vote in person.

This was all pretty predictable.

But of course, when Trump wins, his supporters call it the will of the people and when he loses, they scream conspiracy. It's funny how they wanted to stop counting in states where he was ahead but keep counting in states where he was behind. How inconsistent can they be?

By the way, there will be still more ballot counts coming. The military vote often gets counted late, and Pennsylvania law allows mail-in ballots to be accepted up through tomorrow, depending on the postmark.

There is some late ballot-counting every election. The differences this time are the huge number of mail-in ballots and the closeness of the election.

Let's just count all the votes, and let the people have their say. That is democracy.
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Nov 5 2020 09:38AM     link to this

The dems screamed conspiracy the last 4 years ffs. Both sides do when they don't get their way. The difference is the left never moves on. The right does. I guarantee you if there were ballot dumps for Trump in multiple states of 130k-0 in his favor you'd be complaining. PA is not even following their own laws right now. Their Supreme Court is hyper partisan left. This definitely goes to SCOTUS and Trump wins there. Regardless this process has been a disaster. Brenda Snipes tried this in Florida in 2018 and you don't hear of them finding ballots at the last minute anymore
PA970deep
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Nov 5 2020 09:46AM     link to this

Mexico has cleaner elections than what we're seeing in America today. International elections observers would not approve of the ballot counting process in several states. Not clean
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