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InsearchofStarfish
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penn? this anything?
Nov 12 2020 01:58PM more by InsearchofStarfish
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Pennsylvania court: Secretary of state lacked authority to change deadline 2 days before Election Day
Judge ruled ballots that were previously set aside should not be counted
      
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Atticus_Finch
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Nov 12 2020 04:05PM     link to this

It might be. We'll have to wait and see.
There have been discrepancies in vote tallies like the one in Mich where they recorded 157,000 when it was only 15,700.

And now you've got 5+ states that can't get their count done in a reasonable amount of time, ala FLA in 2000.
Seems like both the dems and repubs would want to make sure the election was absolutely above board and not have anyone question the results, but that's just me.

BTW thanks for the heads up on Warrior. Started watching it last night. Good show.


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InsearchofStarfish
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Nov 12 2020 04:17PM     link to this

very cool...think season two is better than one...just caught up today on it

this ruling won't really change vote totals...looks like they are already segregated and kept those ballots out of the count

Atticus_Finch
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Nov 12 2020 05:44PM     link to this

Maybe not but it does show that there are problem in the way we're voting. Makes the whole process seem suspect. If it continues without getting fixed or at least investigated completely it'll be another nail in the coffin of the experiment known as the United States.

The voting process HAS to be completely above board and transparent if not all you have is russia and putin.
Orgs like blm may want that but ... 90% of the citizenry don't and won't accept it.

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gilbert33
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Nov 12 2020 07:29PM     link to this

Get rid of mail in voting. Exceptions: mail in voting for military, college students out of state and people who are working out of state or country. Your disabled or in some kind of care situation then that is the only exception for mail in living in state. Leave the polls open for voting for 5 days.
Atticus_Finch
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Nov 12 2020 08:07PM     link to this

^ That's the way it used to be - mail in voting. You had to have a very good reason for an 'absentee' ballot. Course that was in the 70's & 80's, but there was never any question about an election being legit or not.
Why are we trying to re-invent the wheel?

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Nov 12 2020 08:08PM     link to this

I don't see how people being late is a systematic problem. Have you ever gone to see someone who isn't quite ready. Was it only one person. See what I mean.

I think it's kind of a decent move by some secretary of the states to have tried to give a little extra time for ballots, especially in light of postal cutbacks and the pandemic driven increase in mail-in.

But sure if you're going to sue somebody about it and act like it's the end of your world and some kind of cheating - which is kind of the schtick coming out of the white house - then sure go for it.

I'm not clear how the extension is "cheating" in any way, since it's the probability of any one of those ballots being for Biden or Trump is exactly the same. Now maybe the aggregate of all later votes might swing in one direction, but that doesn't change the probability of individual votes.


If I think of denying the extension as suppression of the vote I don't have to make any weird logical jumps.

So I'm going to go with that. Am I wrong here?
PA970deep
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Nov 12 2020 09:01PM     link to this

Unclebussybob with the buffoonery and coonery to the extreme. Y'all know he love it white
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Nov 12 2020 09:48PM     link to this

The number of ballots affected is likely to be very small. The ruling applies to:

1) Properly postmarked ballots that arrived after election day.
2) Ballots that had an issue that required "curing" aka correction of minor details.
3) Ballots that were not cured by November 9th, which was the statutory date (6 days after election day) outlined by PA law.

All three conditions need to be satisfied for a ballot to be discarded.

The court ruled that the AG did not have the statutory authority to extend the curing deadline by 3 days. The AG extended that deadline because while the PA Supreme Court extended the acceptance date by 3 days, they did not have the foresight to also extend the curing deadline.

So technically, the AG acted improperly, but she acted in a manner that was largely consistent with the spirit and intent of the PA SC decision.

And if anyone's ballot gets thrown out because of this, they probably deserve it for being late AND fucking up when filling out the ballot, and then taking their sweet ass time to fix it.

Only about 10,000 ballots arrived after Nov 3rd, and it's likely that 90+ percent of them had no issues. Of the ballots with issues, it is likely that around half of them were cured before Nov 9. So there are probably only a few hundred ballots that are truly affected by this decision.
phlampson
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Nov 12 2020 09:52PM     link to this

Of course, the Trumptards either don't or can't comprehend simple math. If they could, there's no way they could support a lying deadbeat tax cheat.
PA970deep
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Nov 12 2020 10:10PM     link to this

^^you sound worried there guy.
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Nov 12 2020 10:39PM     link to this

^I think by his words, he's not worried at all because only hundreds of ballots will be thrown out, and the difference is tens of thousands of votes.
jackrabbit33
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Nov 13 2020 05:33AM     link to this

Theres another case pending in Penn regarding a few 100 thousand ballots having been accepted beyond 8pm election day. Someone in PA decided to use authority to extend the mailin ballot acceptance date beyond 8pm Nov3rd only 2 days before election.

The Constitution clearly says who if anyone can do this and this was done by someone with no authority.

Clearly Dems sensed Trump would take PA and when Dominion glitches didnt give the victory the dump mailin ballots overnight like in Michigan and Wisconsin.

This will gain visibility soon. Biden will not win PA
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