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Dec 14 2020 10:28AM more by sherkahn
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The unfucking of America begins.

Final nails into the Trump era are being hammered in with every electoral vote.
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Dec 14 2020 10:42AM     link to this

Hmm, let's see...

One cites a Reuters article, the other some random dude on YouTube. Golly, hard to decide who to listen to.
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Dec 14 2020 10:42AM     link to this

It’s over.

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haaa.


“So much winning.”

Losers.
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Dec 14 2020 11:17AM     link to this

Contingent election. 27-20-3 Trump
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Dec 14 2020 11:21AM     link to this

BOOM!

"In a reversal of lower court decisions, the Supreme Court ruled today that several 2020 municipal and state elections were conducted unconstitutionally and subject to re-contest. This impacts 13 Republican House seats and over 4 dozen Republican state and county offices."
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Dec 14 2020 11:24AM     link to this

Double exclamation mark The results of the Forensic audit on MI machines was just released and its.....what we all thought

“We conclude that the Dominion Voting System is intentionally and purposefully designed with inherent errors to create systemic fraud and influence election results.”

The allowable election error rate established by the Federal Election Commission guidelines is of 1 in 250,000 ballots (.0008%). We observed an error rate of
68.05%. This demonstrated a significant and fatal error in security and election integrity

On December 14, 2020, Certified Electors from each state, cast their ballots for the President and VP. What many do not realize is they vote in their home state and their vote is sealed and NOT “counted” until January 6th. Crucial point.

in the case of disputes about competing electoral slates, the President of the Senate—Vice President Pence—would appear to have the ultimate authority to decide which to accept and which to reject. This is supported by 3 U.S. Code § 15. Hence, Trump wins.
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Dec 14 2020 11:27AM     link to this

WI Explained

-The WISC had two decisions in two cases today.

-They refused to overturn the results because Trump filed “too late”.Thinking face

-That decision was 4-3 (with the three Ds joined by one R in the majority to the three R dissents).

In a separate decision, they sided with the WI GOP, saying the actions of the SOS were illegal.

-This impacts 215k ballots. Biden's "official" lead is c. 20,000.

-Question is what's the remedy? They implied they'll think on this.Face with monocle ...some1 say "dragging feet."

-Regardless, the WI Certification for Biden is clearly contested. No doubt the VP refuses to count EVs from WI on this ground.

-Interestingly, getting an evidentiary hearing is highly effective. Hard 2 argue w/facts
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Dec 14 2020 11:43AM     link to this

BREAKING NEWS!

In an exclusive report BatshitCrazyTimes.com announced that Hammy has cast his one electoral vote for that one guy who fed raccoons on Youtube. Republicans can no longer take the gerbil vote for granted.
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Dec 14 2020 12:21PM     link to this

The FEC's allowable Error Rate is 1 in 250k, or, 0.0008%

According to MI Forensics Audit of 16 Dominion Machines, error rate was 68.5%

MI Dems have since ordered all 83 Counties to DELETE all election and software data from Dominion machines

Michigan is a complete disaster
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Dec 14 2020 12:21PM     link to this

And in other important news:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GP_K5czbny4&fbclid=IwAR2mJfVC7_ZzpgJVwq3THWSzdEqoMbkoDkTh3PW6Mhba-iFKG7n_LhV-4Tc
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Dec 14 2020 01:48PM     link to this

Might want to check your facts.

Nevada went to Biden.

You are so pathetic.
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Dec 14 2020 01:55PM     link to this

^^you're a Constitutional illiterate. This will be a contingent election

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Dec 14 2020 02:24PM     link to this

Stupid is as stupid does.

You must be living in an alternative universe, Crane.


Nevada went to Biden.

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Dec 14 2020 02:38PM     link to this



I'm afraid there's one more chance for trump to do the worst thing possible. January 6th the
President of the Senate will announce the results of the electoral college. So, we're going to
see the loyalty of mike pence tested. Will he announce the actual vote count.? Or will pence
drink the grape koolaid and announce trump winning the "legitimate" vote count.?

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Dec 14 2020 02:44PM     link to this

It’s over.

Electoral college has finished, and all the votes are as expected.

Biden will be President of the United States.
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Dec 14 2020 02:50PM     link to this

Why do you bother? Moron thinks YouTube videos are actual news…
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Dec 14 2020 02:54PM     link to this

Because I like watching them dig themselves into a deeper hole.
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Dec 14 2020 02:55PM     link to this

I seem to remember a bunch of snowflakes screaming that the media doesn’t elect the president, the electoral college does… I guess not so much when it doesn’t go your way
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Dec 14 2020 02:56PM     link to this

As opposed to some moronic teenager on a cell phone camera announcing he’s in front of the Nevada state legislator...? When the sign behind him very clearly said Nevada state legislature.
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Dec 14 2020 02:57PM     link to this

Read em and weep, crane.

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Dec 14 2020 04:11PM     link to this

President of the senate, VP Pence, has sole discretion to accept one slate of Electors or to reject both sets of electors. Either way Trump wins
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Dec 14 2020 04:12PM     link to this

The President of the Senate opens the certificates of electoral votes from the states and announces the count of the electoral votes contained.

Under the Constitution, the Senate and the House of Representatives only act separately, as entirely distinct legislative chambers relegated to voyeurism. They have no constitutional way to act together as one to litigate the President of the Senate's count. They can only watch.

12th Amendment’s text vests ultimate singular authority in the President of the Senate. Who decides authoritatively what “certificates” from the states to “open” and thus what electoral votes are “to be counted.”
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Dec 14 2020 04:13PM     link to this

Let's you and I go get the vaccine.
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Dec 14 2020 04:18PM     link to this

Dude, instead of just spouting some nonsense from those idiot websites you seem to live on, do your own thinking. The president of the Senate opens and counts. He doesn't get to pick and choose what to count. There is one legal slate of EC votes presented from each state.

Here's the full text of the 12th:

The Electors shall meet in their respective states and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves; they shall name in their ballots the person voted for as President, and in distinct ballots the person voted for as Vice-President, and they shall make distinct lists of all persons voted for as President, and of all persons voted for as Vice-President, and of the number of votes for each, which lists they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate;–the President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates and the votes shall then be counted;–The person having the greatest number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed; and if no person have such majority, then from the persons having the highest numbers not exceeding three on the list of those voted for as President, the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President. But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote; a quorum for this purpose shall consist of a member or members from two-thirds of the states, and a majority of all the states shall be necessary to a choice. [And if the House of Representatives shall not choose a President whenever the right of choice shall devolve upon them, before the fourth day of March next following, then the Vice-President shall act as President, as in case of the death or other constitutional disability of the President.–]The person having the greatest number of votes as Vice-President, shall be the Vice-President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed, and if no person have a majority, then from the two highest numbers on the list, the Senate shall choose the Vice-President; a quorum for the purpose shall consist of two-thirds of the whole number of Senators, and a majority of the whole number shall be necessary to a choice. But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.
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Dec 14 2020 04:18PM     link to this

But my offer of holding hands as we together get our vaccine still stands.
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Dec 14 2020 04:20PM     link to this

The President of the Senate does not have the authority to choose electors that are contrary to the will of the people.

Larry Lessig, a professor at Harvard Law School and someone who clerked for Antonin Scalia, agued against the idea espoused by some that anyone has the constitutional power to pick another state of electors after Election Day.

In July, the Supreme Court unanimously ruled states can require members of the Electoral College to vote for the winner of the popular vote. It upheld existing laws in 32 states by doing so, USA TODAY reported.

Lessig said the ruling also sheds light on restrictions placed upon state legislatures [and presumably others].

"For the same reason that electors have no power today, legislatures [and others do] not have the power to appoint a slate of electors that was contrary to the vote of the people." Lessig said.
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Dec 14 2020 04:22PM     link to this

Imagine believing a racist senile kiddie toucher like biden received the most votes ever with the least counties ever. You really have to be low iq to believe that happened without fraud
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Dec 14 2020 04:24PM     link to this

yawn
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Dec 14 2020 04:29PM     link to this

Let's code something together.
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Dec 14 2020 04:42PM     link to this

What if there are two sets of Electors submitting certified ballots? What is the VP to do in that case?

The 12th Amendment says: "The Electors shall meet in their respective states and vote by ballot..." What if two sets of Electors meet in their respective states and vote by ballot? Then both Elector groups sign, certify and send to the senate, what then does the VP do?




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Dec 14 2020 04:55PM     link to this

In the case of disputes about competing electoral slates, the President of the Senate—Vice President Pence—would appear to have the ultimate authority to decide which to accept and which to reject. This is supported by 3 U.S. Code § 15. Hence, Trump wins.

Given the language of the Twelfth Amendment, whatever its ambiguity and potential policy objections, there is no other possible single authority to identify for this purpose besides the President of the Senate to act as the arbiter of any disputes and break deadlocks.

In fact, within Pence's powers, he could either accept the competing slates of electors submitted, or dismiss them as disputed, and not have them counted. A reduced total still delivers Trump a victory BECAUSE IT DEPRIVES BIDEN OF 270. This is another crucial point

Trump wins
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Dec 14 2020 04:59PM     link to this

^This is not true.

The electors that are chosen by the will of the people are the only electors allowed to be chosen.

Larry Lessig, a professor at Harvard Law School and someone who clerked for Antonin Scalia, agued against the idea espoused by some that anyone has the constitutional power to pick another state of electors after Election Day.

"For the same reason that electors have no power today, legislatures [and others do] not have the power to appoint a slate of electors that was contrary to the vote of the people." Lessig said.
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Dec 14 2020 04:59PM     link to this

No, Pence does not have that kind of authority. That’s not how this works.

You would think that other losing administrations would have attempted such a move in the past.

Trump is done. But please continue to get knocked down with ridiculous arguments.
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Dec 14 2020 05:35PM     link to this

State legislatures have the Constitutional authority (under Article II, Section 1, Clause 3 and 3 U.S. Code § 2 and § 5) to appoint their own slate of Electors, loyal to President Trump, if they deem their state’s “POPULAR VOTE IS CORRUPTED”.

In the case of disputes about competing electoral slates, the President of the Senate—Vice President Pence—would appear to have the ultimate authority to decide which to accept and which to reject. This is supported by 3 U.S. Code § 15. Hence, Trump wins.

In a contested 2020 election, like the Election of 1876, the Republican Senate and Democratic House would disagree on which electors to accept. This is called a “disputation.”

Under the Constitution, there exists no mechanism to resolve a dispute in which the two houses of Congress cannot agree upon a certified set of electors, and there is no Constitutional role for the courts, including the Supreme Court.


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Dec 14 2020 05:40PM     link to this

^Not true. The Supreme Court clearly has jurisdiction over issues pertaining to the constitution. In July, the Supreme Court unanimously ruled states can require members of the Electoral College to vote for the winner of the popular vote. It upheld existing laws in 32 states by doing so. It would likely rule that if state law dictates it, electors have to reflect the popular vote. There has been no proof of systematic fraud.
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Dec 14 2020 05:41PM     link to this

The House and Senate GOP (McCarthy & McConnell) shall argue under the language of the 12th amendment, the President of the Senate—Vice President Mike Pence—has the sole discretion to break a deadlock between the Senate and the House, and to either accept or dismiss disputed electors.

-Republicans will point to the historical pedigree of the VP’s position, observing that the GOP made the same argument during the election of 1876.

Given the language of the Twelfth Amendment, whatever its ambiguity and potential policy objections, there is no other possible single authority to identify for this purpose besides the President of the Senate to act as the arbiter of any disputes and break deadlocks.

We have a contested election folks. And that means Trump beats bidens to a pulp
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Dec 14 2020 05:42PM     link to this

How does it feel to have a man called FlappyNutSack laughing at you? That’s like the bottom of bottoms.YTWL
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Dec 14 2020 05:45PM     link to this

There is plenty of evidence of election fraud in plain sight.
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Dec 14 2020 05:45PM     link to this

There is no serious dispute of electors that can't be settled by the Supreme Court before it ever gets to Congress. If state law dictates it, the Supreme Court will rule the electors must reflect the will of the people. There is no evidence of systematic fraud, according to judges in these court cases.
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Dec 14 2020 05:46PM     link to this

Bottom bitch flappynutsack
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