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Mr.Horndog
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Apr 10 2020 10:37PM more by Mr.Horndog
Tags: San Diego , Current Events (All tags)

How many of those criticizing Bernie Sanders and socialism are now eagerly awaiting a stimulus check from the government.
      
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Al_Most_Perfect
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Apr 10 2020 10:40PM     link to this

Al_Most_Perfect
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Apr 10 2020 11:33PM     link to this

If taxpayers are providing a safety net for corporations, that's socialism
Mr.Horndog
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Apr 11 2020 12:12AM     link to this

Isn't Social Security a form of socialism?
Mr.Horndog
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Apr 11 2020 12:16AM     link to this

Why blame Bernie rather than our actual leader.
Mr.Horndog
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Apr 11 2020 12:19AM     link to this

It seems as though those on the right are scared to criticize Trump no matter how incompetent he is.
Mr.Horndog
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Apr 11 2020 12:30AM     link to this

You have a Republican President and Republicans control the Senate, stop making excuses!
Mr.Horndog
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Apr 11 2020 12:55AM     link to this

If you disagree, rely on capitalism to save our country and refuse any government involvement. I doubt you'll last very long.
Mr.Horndog
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Apr 11 2020 01:01AM     link to this

You'd have to rely on good natured people such as myself. Even though your a greedy evil goon, which is typical of those who feel entitled on the right.
GinaGalaxy
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Apr 11 2020 01:05AM     link to this

1k is nothing it was spent yesterday
Mr.Horndog
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Apr 11 2020 01:09AM     link to this

You're fine as hell Gina.
Mr.Horndog
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Apr 11 2020 01:19AM     link to this

Sexy ass Gina, I'd make love to your fine ass.
Mr.Horndog
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Apr 11 2020 01:22AM     link to this

Granite, I'll let you stay rent free I my backyard and let you watch me and Gina make love in the rain.
Mr.Horndog
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Apr 11 2020 01:27AM     link to this

Granite, why do you deflect and ask people to answer questions you pose without answering the initial question? It seems this is your constant strategy.
Mr.Horndog
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Apr 11 2020 02:01AM     link to this

You too my friend.
billinirvine
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Apr 11 2020 07:05AM     link to this

Some of us are not getting the check.
Enjoy lib-leeches... You're welcome.
Al_Most_Perfect
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Apr 11 2020 08:36AM     link to this

Obviously, you have more time on your hands than I do. And I'm not going to read all the dribble here.

But I will point out that the very definition of socialism that YOU provided applies to the current situation.

"the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole"

That's exactly what the fuck we have when taxpayers (the community as a whole) fund the organizations that produce and distribute goods and services.
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Apr 11 2020 08:36AM     link to this

I would donate my check to make nancy, chuck, and aoc disappear.
Al_Most_Perfect
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Apr 11 2020 08:41AM     link to this

^^^^^^^^^^^ According to Granite, the taxpayers owe you a lot more than that since the government forbids you to work.
AsianJ
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Apr 11 2020 08:43AM     link to this

If you think stimulus check is socialism you are an idiot. People and businesses that affected by communism china party virus are being helped out. Not career welfare people that dont want to work that democrats wants to give money to.
LXIX_I812
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Apr 11 2020 09:00AM     link to this

Social Security is NOT Socialism! It's an INVESTMENT! I first invested in Social Security in 1960 and when I was disabled in 2005 I started drawing on my investment.
hyder
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Apr 11 2020 09:15AM     link to this

Please find a political blog for this crap.
mildlyamusing1
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Apr 11 2020 01:40PM     link to this

I'm going to regret jumping into the mud with you guys, but I'd like to put things in perspective.

Fact: 4 out of 5 Americans live paycheck to paycheck
Fact: 4 in 10 Americans can't afford a $400 emergency

So now we find ourselves in a global pandemic, and governments all over the world are shutting down their economies for the health of their citizens and to prevent the collapse of their healthcare systems. Governments must prop up their societal frameworks or suffer lasting damage.

Of course our political parties have two different approaches:

The Republican solution: give corporations money and allow it to trickle down to workers, because we can obviously trust corporations to do the right thing. Surely it won't go to executive bonuses and stock-buybacks, because, of course, that just hurts the average person. Unfortunately, Republicans on Capital Hill didn't want any restrictions on how the stimulus package, and Trump is now trying to dismantle many [if not all] safeguards as to how the money is spent.

The Democrat solution: give money directly to workers/people in need. The money they are given will be spent immediately because most people are living paycheck to paycheck, so the money the government gives workers will automatically re-enter the economy and will "bubble up" to corporations. Democrats fought Republicans to give the money directly to the workers and faced resistance from Republicans every step of the way, including now.


America is approaching a very dangerous time where the income disparity between the "haves" and the "have nots" has been widening to such a degree that something drastic is going to happen [think of a French Revolution/Marie Antionette moment].


To avert the inevitable public unrest, at least as I see it, basic human needs need to be socialized, especially the healthcare. When you give corporations that have a profit motive control over essential industries, they do what they do best: they try to increase profits at practically any cost.

The current healthcare system is run in the leanest way possible to maximize profits. They have just enough hospital beds to accommodate demand, but failed to invest in case of a pandemic or other emergency. And who foots the bill when the shit hits the fan? The American public to the benefit of healthcare companies.

Another example are prisons run by corporations that are paid by the inmate, so unsurprisingly, the number of inmates has exploded. This is just another example of capitalism run amuck. Society would be a much better place if essential industries were nationalized.

And beyond that, Trump/Republicans want to deregulate everything. Wonderful. We should all trust that corporations will do the right thing, right? Don't be so stupid.

Lastly, I love capitalism more than most people; I have certainly benefitted from it. But as they say on Wall Street: "pigs get slaughtered"....
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Apr 11 2020 02:10PM     link to this

Since I have been alive, the airlines have been bailed out twice. Can we not do that this time? let them fail, isn't that true capitalism? Not my fault they took a gamble and did billions in stock buy backs over the last 10 years. Why should they get a damn dime of our dollars? If I start a business and it fails I lose my shirt. Why should it be any different for anyone else?



Privatization of gains, socialize the losses.

Must be nice.

Zeros
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Apr 11 2020 02:14PM     link to this

Let's not pretend this is a partisan issue. Red,Blue,Green,etc, they all are equally worthless. If that hasn't been proven by the Kung Flu then nothing will ever convince you otherwise.

Maybe the congress will get the Wu Tang Flu and make way for some new thinking.


Gooners
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Apr 11 2020 02:47PM     link to this

maybe all those who are anti- socialist shouldn't be getting a check.
it's funny that when other people are getting a hand out its socialist when they are getting a hand out it's "stimulus" package.
Detroit51
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Apr 11 2020 02:59PM     link to this

Crane op still doesn't know the difference between "your" and you're.
Detroit51
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Apr 11 2020 03:20PM     link to this

Nor does he know the mea ing of the word "or"
We have been living under and continue living under a form of socialism.
The fda,fcc, faa and dozens of other agencies and laws are regulations that impede free markets. As does Social security , the stimulus check, SSI, medicare and dozens of other forms of income redistribution. Both Democrats and Trumpy's believe in this redistribution the only difference is who is getting it. The GOP tends to want to give the money to corporations and farmers. The welfare system of farmers being paid to not grow crops is pure socialism. The Dems have the audacity to suggest it should be redistributed to some subsistance form of medical care and perhaps a meal or two a day to those that are hungry. We've found a way to do that up here in Canada. Unfortunately the richest country in the world is more concerned about controlling women's bodies and which invisible man in the sky one believes in.
CalHall
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Apr 11 2020 03:22PM     link to this

Just as long as the Kennedy Center and PBS get their Covid-19 money, who cares?
Detroit51
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Apr 11 2020 03:37PM     link to this

Yep support of the arts is pure socialism as is every Defense Cost Plus contract. Of course those contracts made me rich...so they can stop now.
BigOnes
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Apr 11 2020 03:48PM     link to this

To the idiot above trying equate socialism with social security.... are you fucking serious?

Hey moron we pay into social security and these god damn fucking politicians hijacked and stole from the program and just like every god damn thing they touch fucked it up!

Socialism is giving other people’s money to someone that didn’t earn it....

Fuck you people are idiots!
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