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Just ignore the doom-sayers and you're fine.
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People confuse fear and respect.
Pro 27:12 The wise see danger and take refuge, but the simple keep going and pay the penalty.
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DON'T keep track of the reported statistics.
in an urban area with 7,000,000 people, what does a 2% mortality rate mean? 140,000 dead. 98% are still alive.
that's saying... would you miss 2% of your pocket cash?
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I wonder why the news/media don't say any other deaths not related to covid-19
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Watch the movie contagion and you’ll be fine.
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OP is misinformed and wrong on every point. Dangerously wrong--it is ok to not understand the science and numbers. It is complex. But when you don't understand, listen to the experts.
Ok, maybe she is correct on one point--people who play the lute are a menace.
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Lutes...the reason why guitars stuck around and lutes died. 
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Panicking Punk Bitch's!
Love Life, Live Life, Be Safe!
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We lose 1.8 million people each year in the US from disease and we are going crazy about the additional 60K to 100K from this virus. Can someone explain that to us?
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The 80,000 or so could have been millions. From one disease. Still could happen if we all go back to normal life tomorrow.
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Even when we get back to "normal", I think we'll still be stuck with masks and 6ft. 'X's" on the floors.
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Shouldn't be hard to find 1.8 million people
How far could that many people go?
And, why we weren't they using the GPS on their phones
Maybe they don't wanna be found
Did you think of that?
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Google ... 1918 Pandemic
You'll learn a lot! 
@->--
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And look at all the economic damage the shutdown has caused.
We've destroyed lives to save lives
Some people have the CORONAVIRUS but the govt gave everyone the NOLIFEVIRUS.
And if we don't get back to work soon, there will be plenty of more lives destroyed.
It's time that businesses and the people decide how they went to deal with virus
in the days ahead.
Hopefully there will be massive testing, soon to help us all figure this out.
I think it's crazy that Governor Newsom stated that there will be no large
gatherings for a long time. That means no attendance at sporting events, concerts,
church services, nightclubs, bars and restaurants and no school.
That's a huge loss of revenue in taxes to the state, not to mention the loss
of revenue and loss of jobs for all the people involved.
It's time for the people to figure out how to deal with the virus and not just accept
what the local govt. mandates.
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Thank you for that suggestion Fat Lady.
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We do have to keep everything in perspective.
As Jacinto said....we don't keep such track of all other deaths in the U.S.
How about the gunshot fatalities in Chicago since the beginning of the year...127
So far this flu season 10/1/19 to 4/4/20, the CDC has estimated 39-56 million cases, with 410,000-740,000 hospitalizations and 24,000 to 62,000 deaths.....
Covid-19 in the U.S. 615,000 cases and 26,000 deaths.
Let's tally motor vehicle deaths....we have over 40,000 of those every year in this country.
If we were as obsessed by these figures, maybe efforts would be directed to address those deaths.
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The only thing we have to fear is fear itself
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The pandemic is a serious thing...but we have thousands of people die for a wide variety of causes.
We had over 67,000 overdose deaths.....not much discussion about that in the media.
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At the upper end of the influenza numbers,. 62,000 deaths out of 56 million infections is approximately 0.1 percent mortality, with most of those fatalities being very elderly.
With C-19, 26,000 deaths out of 615,000 cases is 4%, or about 40 times deadlier than the flu. And although the elderly still make up the large majority of deaths, C-19 appears to be a much more serious threat to middle-aged persons with obesity and diabetes than the flu.
If not checked, C-19 has the potential to rip through the entire population, and the percentage of fatalities could rise dramatically once the capacity of the healthcare system is exceeded. What happens when 20 percent of hospital staff can't work due to illness? What happens when significant percentages of doctors and nurses start dying, and the rest of them don't want to go to work anymore. Beyond a certain level of infections, you'll be pretty much on your own to get better or die.
As of today, MAYBE 1% of the population has contracted and recovered from C-19. That leaves 99% that are still at risk. Additionally, whereas most people have been vaccinated against the flu (maybe greater than 75%), NO ONE has been vaccinated against C-19. Presently, it's somewhat unlikely you'll encounter someone that is contagious. What happens when 1 out of every 2 people you walk by in a grocery store or at your workplace could pass it on to you?
You may think that things are being overblown, but the people that actually study and understand this stuff are scared shitless for a reason. You can fuck perspective, because most people don't really understand the situation.
Remember, it took a while for the crew on the Titanic to realize how badly she had been damaged. In our current predicament, we know the damage has been done. All we can do is our damn best to mitigate it going forward. Ignoring the problem doesn't make it go away, despite what our idiot-in-chief thinks.
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And FWIW, overdose deaths HAVE been discussed at length in the media. Just seems that the government has not done a whole lot to address it, because the present administration doesn't think homeless people and drug addicts matter.
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You obviously have not been listening to the experts....they all say there are thousands and thousands who have contracted the virus, had no symptoms and are now recovered. The last numbers I heard they expect the mortality rate to be well below 1%....no where even close to 4%.
Some are believing when the dust settles it will be less than half a percent.
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No I am saying we continue to have all those overdose deaths, traffic fatalities and the like...and all we currently are talking about is Covid......Covid.....Covid.......
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Mortality rate is a math issue....
We are capturing all of the numerator of the fraction, but are only probably getting the hospitalizations in the denominator. People have self quarantined and NOT been counted in the numbers......and as I said, those with NO or very slight symptoms are not in the denominator either.
So we have 'garbage' for the denominator and everyone is running with it as a fact....just keep listening to the main stream media....they are trying to skew the number and scare the crap out of everyone.
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This whole thing is fucked up McDonalds in China is now banning black people and people in the US are mad at Asian people for the virus coming from China.
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The real concern is the 3rd world.
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@Jazz51
You are correct that the value for the denominator is probably significantly higher than the number of confirmed cases. However, regardless of the actual mortality rate, the absolute numbers could increase by 1-2 orders of magnitude if the situation is not managed properly.
We're currently at approx 28000 deaths today. Even if we've already passed the apex, that number will probably at least double over the next few weeks. We will have an entire year's worth of Influenza fatalities in a period of 6-8 weeks. And that's IF we maintain the restrictions that are currently in place through at least May 1st.
If you lift the restrictions too early, then you risk another huge flare-up, except this time the initial number of contagious but asymptomatic persons are probably 10 times higher than we had back at the beginning of March.
The really scary thing is that the curve is likely going to have a very long tail. That is, the rate of decrease in cases and deaths will probably be much slower than the rate of increase. And even if we were to extend the lockdown indefinitely, people would increasingly begin to no longer comply.
You and others can dismiss this as doom and gloom, but the numbers do not lie.
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But on the plus side (one of the very few bright spots), traffic fatalities are probably way way down.
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Finally, as to your point about the actual mortality rate being closer to 0.5 percent, that might wind up being true.
However, 0.5 percent of 350,000,000 US citizens is a much much higher number than 0.1 percent of the 60 million people in the US that catch the flu.
Moreover, that 0.5 percent rate will probably jump into the 5-10 percent range for any individual that is unable to get medical care because the healthcare system is overwhelmed.
Those are better odds than Russian Roulette, but not by much.
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Trump delaying stimulus checks to have his name printed on the checks like the money's coming from him lol
The fuckin checks are coming from the US government not Trump.
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The money is ours...not his. This country belongs to us. Our tax dollars, nothing comes from that turd.
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I really don't get people that are blind to Trump's BS.
Come election time the people that say their voting for Trump because of the economy are not going to have that excuse.
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I am not dismissing the numbers. but they are being blown out of proportion. Flu season typically only last about 13 weeks anyway....so ....first cases in the U.S. were in mid January. so we are at about the 13 week mark....
This will last longer since it is more contagious. But as people continue social distancing and wearing masks...I believe the curve will bend over pretty nicely.
If you look at the numbers...New York skews the hell out of the entire issue. They account for 32% of the cases and 38% of the deaths.....and only 6% of the population. Take them away and the U.S. is in pretty decent shape. We would have 440,000 cases and only 18,000 deaths.....
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Dude I like your human icon update... I almost thought you muted yourself.. but no
I dont need "excuses" to vote for Trump but now that you mention it..
I'm not a Liberal ( is that good enough )... but if I was I still wouldnt vote for a guy who cant even pull off a staged interview with prepared questions from an MSNBC/CNN anchor. Or who withheld funding himself and then sent $1B to Ukraine to drop an investigation into his son and sit back and watch Trump get Impeached for asking "did that really happen"... or shipped $1.7B to Iran...
Oh yeah and then what's that stuff about Tara Reade ?... Even prominent Dem's say the accusers should be heard... I mean why should just Kavanaugh get all the fun right?
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Dude don't talk to me.
Just keep playing your psycho game with all of you profiles, have your little juvenile fun and don't address me.
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@Jazz, you would be correct about NY skewing the numbers, but only because NY has a 2-4 week head start on every other state except CA and WA. NY is basically the canary in the coal mine. We ignore their lessons at our peril. And while NYC is an extreme situation, we have large cities in every state that are densely populated and subject to very rapid infection rates. Those cities also tend to be poorer and have fewer resources, per capita, to deal with local epidemics.
I tend to agree that we need to reopen our economy, but it must be done at a deliberate and thoughtful pace, with a keen eye on the data to protect public health. It cannot just be an arbitrary date circled on the calendar.
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I have only one profile dumbass
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Also, regarding the flu season only lasting 3-4 months during the winter, it must be remembered that influenza peters out because the large majority of Americans are consistently vaccinated. Influenza also spreads less rapidly during warmer months.
Neither of those situations are true for C-19. At the very best, maybe 1-2 percent of the worlds population has already been infected and has developed some immunity. Meanwhile C-19 is impacting equatorial and southern-hemisphere countries almost as much those in northern climes.
As evidence, look at the confirmed case numbers in Australia and South America, where it's been summer for the last 3 months. Africa doesn't show large numbers yet, but that's probably due to underreporting and the fact that their populations are less mobile than industrialized nations.
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@JackRabbit,
You're right. All the accusers should be heard.
We should have a big nationally televised event where all the Biden victims and all the Trump victims get 10 minutes each to tell their stories.
You would support that, right?
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I hope all you Medical professionals and scientist have this all figured out. I have five friends that have died from Covid 19 3 in LA and 2 in NYC. Be stupid if you want. We need to get rid of more STUPID PEOPLE anyway. Fake news right? Protect yourself and follow the science or get what you get.
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@phlampson
Sounds great. What are talking for Trump ?... Stormy Daniels and other "professionals"...
I wouldnt call them "victims" but hey let's hear what they have to say.
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"influenza peters out because the large majority of Americans are consistently vaccinated."
Lol, total bullshit. Lots of doctors say don't even bother, it's a total crapshoot depending on if they guess right that year.
I guess you could ask these guys down below.
"According to a Feb. 21 CDC Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report, the current influenza vaccine has been 45% effective overall against 2019-2020 seasonal influenza A and B viruses. Specifically, the flu vaccine has been 50% effective against influenza B/Victoria viruses and 37% effective against influenza A(H1N1)pdm09.Feb 26, 2020"
@PHL noticing that you like declarative statements, some true and others not so much. Vet them before you post, lots of weak minded idiots on this site and they'll swallow anybody's bullshit.....or jizm. Doom dud comes to mind
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