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Locked. No further comments permitted.Theory: COVID-19 started in a Chinese lab, not a market.
Apr 15 2020 07:42PM more by Night-Rider
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It seems more and more likely that the coronavirus came from a well-respected Chinese lab.

I can’t wait to read what nutty conspiracy theories you guys could possibly dream up about this!

My take: Chinese researchers were probably studying these coronaviruses that came from animals, and didn’t take enough precautions, and it infected someone, and he or she got out into the community.

OOPS!
      
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InsearchofStarfish
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Apr 15 2020 08:02PM     link to this

they know that anything made in a lab will get investigated and found out

this way they can say oops


how about china shut down domestic travel...letting international travel to and from that area?


maybe they were sick of trump ruining their plans to take over the economic lead in the world by 2025


InsearchofStarfish
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Apr 15 2020 08:42PM     link to this

4D chess again with the halting of funds to the WHO...trump hating left comes out swinging at him VS casting any blame on china and the WHO for helping them fuck the world with this virus. Even the stupid people that are going to be casting votes can see this shit...maybe? rather blame trump VS china/WHO ?? --- The light is being shined on the real problems and the LEFT can't help themselves from defending the indefensible


the facts and signs are plain as day that the WHO knew the issues...the timelines are telling the stories of malfeasance...handling of Taiwan emails, Taiwan inquiries, travel bans and WHO backlash on trump for it when they knew it was a real problem...they were covering for china. WHY? look it up

why would china shut down domestic travel to the area and not international? the world needs to come down hard on both of them

I'm happy Trump is the one in charge of taking on china and the corrupt WHO, WTO, UN....how would JOE be doing with them? (they aren't bad people folks...they they they aren't competition for us) too funny

Al_Most_Perfect
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Apr 15 2020 09:57PM     link to this

Who gives a fuck what the WHO is doing?

Isn't America great enough to take care of itself?
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Apr 15 2020 10:05PM     link to this

America does not need to send millions in funding to WHO when the organization has shown to be shady.
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Apr 15 2020 10:16PM     link to this

^ among others.
InsearchofStarfish
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Apr 15 2020 10:28PM     link to this

I guess we won't be caring anymore what the WHO is doing. you pay all that money for the world to be alerted to potential threats....that was billion down the drain...cost the world lives and trillions of dollars when they could have been done the job they were supposed to do and limit this thing to mostly china.


gates influence on the WHO will be under the microscope also


OCHarley
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Apr 15 2020 10:28PM     link to this

Where did you get this info, OP?!

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Apr 15 2020 10:38PM     link to this

The WHO, among others, is a sound good/feel good organization that actually can and has done some good. But like the rest, they are completely subject to political forces.

Why they bend over for minor contributors, like China, but thumb their noses at the US, the #1 contributor, again, is ridiculous. But that's a political effect - China is of one party/one voice.
OCHarley
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Apr 15 2020 10:48PM     link to this

Socaliam and SixD....oh no doubt. Don't disagree a bit. And I know, too. Just pointing out where the info is coming from and notice. It matters.

Well...except for the stupid. Nothing matters to them.
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Apr 15 2020 11:14PM     link to this

heard the story a while back also...lots of corroborating evidence to help it out now

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Apr 15 2020 11:21PM     link to this

This is just a classic wage the dog bs.

The lab they are referring to is a military backed scientific research lab. You think that the Chinese military is so inept and stupid that they let a virus intentionally or unintentionally gets spread in their own freaking city where those military official and researcher's own families live?

Do you shit in your of bowl and than eat your own shit?
Night-Rider
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Apr 15 2020 11:25PM     link to this

"The lab they are referring to is a military backed scientific research lab. You think that the Chinese military is so inept and stupid that they let a virus intentionally or unintentionally gets spread in their own freaking city where those military official and researcher's own families live?"

Yup

"Do you shit in your of bowl and than eat your own shit?"

Nope
InsearchofStarfish
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Apr 15 2020 11:32PM     link to this

intentional or accidental...they tanked the world, and with it, a slight chance to get trump out of the Whitehouse, where they benefit

the reality is the light is shining brightly on china now, and we shall see what the repercussions are going to be on future trade and relationships.

whose tail are we talking about again?


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Apr 15 2020 11:43PM     link to this


I think you missed my point SixD. No worries. My critique was the OP. Pump the brakes.
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Apr 15 2020 11:54PM     link to this

I think that the Chinese Lab theory is halfway plausible, but to claim that WHO intentionally aided the Chinese in covering it up is chemtrail/flat-earth level conspiracy theory bullshit.

I think Hanlons's Razor is most appropriate here:

"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity"
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Apr 16 2020 12:07AM     link to this


Yes...I could have....I was trying to be subtle and blunt at the same time...agreeing with you two, and pointing out the obvious lack of coverage of the issue in most mainstream, if not all all, sources. Thusly, bolstering and edifying the hypocrisy of the OP in noting the point. But I do concede I was too subtle. I tried to give props to you two and should have more....clearly. Your takes are respected by this guy.

Bloviating done! ;P
Night-Rider
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Apr 16 2020 12:21AM     link to this

So how am I a hypocrite? Because I don't read right-wing media garbage?
Night-Rider
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Apr 16 2020 12:22AM     link to this

Excuse me for just hearing about this the other day.
InsearchofStarfish
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Apr 16 2020 12:47AM     link to this

the WHO was told/warned of the person to person transmission before the travel ban from trump...they blasted the airwaves that things were fine and trump was wrong

why would they do that?? the top two people owe their jobs to china


the investigation results are coming


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Apr 16 2020 12:55AM     link to this

Really? That's your answer?

If it is truly news to you then I retract. *but I doubt it. No...not "just the right wing" stuff. Are you really that limited?*

Do the work. *being as nice as I can cuz.....*

But....

Stop spreading your garbage without doing your homework. That shit you are "citing" was brought up/out "internationally" in 2018. Ketchup!

And then the stupid show commences and the morons and the WHO started their "campaign". And fools bought it. I ain't not conspiracy clown. Secrets are hard to keep. The WHO is a slimy org with slimy people in it. Do homework. I've worked with too many of those people. Scum is putting it.....MILDLY.

QED


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Apr 16 2020 01:01AM     link to this

Theres alot of smoke and the fog of war with this right now.

The WHO is suspect at being negligent and/or inept for sure.

I'm fine with funds being held up.... it sorta gets peoples attention and makes them know your serious.... that kind of money is akin to "talk or we start cutting fingers..." Trump is a tough cookie and I like it.

Get em to squirm for awhile and see who starts talking and what BS do they come up with.

What would Biden do ? Probably ship the WHO a $1B and say "please do an investigation so we are assured this doesnt happen again.." then stick his feeble head between his knees
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Apr 16 2020 01:11AM     link to this

See ! I told you so.

The DOD is looking into it.
Night-Rider
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Apr 16 2020 01:12AM     link to this

@OCHarley. I don't understand your beef. Why are you so angry?
Night-Rider
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Apr 16 2020 01:14AM     link to this

That's right. This is news NOW because we NOW know that U.S. intelligence agencies are looking into it. Gives a lot more weight than what may have been said before.
Al_Most_Perfect
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Apr 16 2020 07:51AM     link to this

"Americans does not need to send millions in funding to WHO Congress when the organization has shown to be shady"

There you go. FIFY
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Apr 16 2020 08:28AM     link to this

Well, that too, Al.

Thanks!
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Apr 16 2020 04:06PM     link to this

^^ It's not just WHO that the U.S should lower payments to - WTO, UN, NATO etcetc should also be included. Why is the U.S. responsible for europes defense?, the european countries don't seem too worried about it.
I was really hoping when Trump won he would come out and inform the NATO countries that the U.S. is cutting it's contribution by 25% over his first term and if reelected another 15 - 20% during his second term and that money saved would be used to revamp the countries infrastructure, re-establish our manufacturing base etcetc. The other NATO countries, i.e. Germany France England etc would have to step up and make up the difference.

Atticus Finch
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Apr 16 2020 04:14PM     link to this

China World Dominance
fuckers!
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Apr 16 2020 04:27PM     link to this

Trump already went through the whole "need" for NATO thing years ago when he took office. Theres a video clip of him half scolding other NATO leader for America's disproportionate contribution to the Alliance.

We should get out of the alliance... just review and redefine objectives and US role
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Apr 16 2020 04:28PM     link to this

We *shouldnt* get out
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Apr 16 2020 07:27PM     link to this

@anyone thinking this was a just a mistake


The lab exposure definitely just a mistake. The willful lying and coverup of the chi see government...not a mistake at all just there modus operandi. Too sensitive to criticism that government deems all decisions and practices as unimpeachable and will punish any and all dissent even those it does not govern.

Keep in mind no one in or outside of China is a threat to them. The only threat they have is coming because of their actions in this one incident despite many other incidents that challenge human rights and national sovereignty.

There was no need for them to cover this up the whole world is dependent on their industrial power. Would have worked with them to fully restore it. History should mark this period as the beginning of the end of their economic power but sadly the greed of the multi-nationals will probably be the slave that encourages the world to forgive and forget.
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Apr 16 2020 07:29PM     link to this

Sorry for the numerous typos
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Apr 16 2020 09:37PM     link to this

China now is like the Soviet Union 10 or 20 years before they ate shit and fell apart.
Actually rotten at the core, population getting older and before the end of the century may have 60% of current population.
Huge misallocation of resources with whole cities of buildings unoccupied.
Xi knows they're fucked but what does he care as long as he's got power.
Communism, socialism, whatever.....it cannot function in the long run
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Apr 17 2020 01:02AM     link to this

To say it could not have been intentional is naive. Would our government come out and say it if they had suspicions or knowledge that is was? Probably not, as that would be an act of war on China's part.

China does not have a problem in Beijing, or Shanghai, and they did a terrific job of preventing the virus from infecting their entire country........... but, they failed to prevent travelers from flying internationally? This could not be an oversight or a mistake, they just aren't that stupid. So in my mind, it makes it intentional on their part, but difficult to prove it was.

We have so many liberals focused on blaming Trump, they are not spending much time on blaming China.

The entire world would like to see Trump gone. He is the first president in the last 40 plus years, that is actually putting the interests of the USA first, as he is not a globalist. I have wondered for the last 40 years why we were allowing a potential enemy become so powerful both economically, and militarily at our countries expense.

Do you remember in 1987 or so when Reagan sold the American public on Amnesty for illegal immigrants, giving them a path to citizenship? We were told it was necessary as so many were here and it was not practical to deport them.... But we were also told that we would enforce our immigration laws going forward......... another lie to the American people, and no one ever mentions it today with all the new illegals that have come since then.

I don't like Newsom much, but in my view he has done a good job in regards to handling the pandemic. But giving money to illegal immigrants is BS, just like giving them drivers licenses is. We have so many homeless in this state, and if he wants to hand out money, it should go to helping them. If we didn't have so many illegals here, our housing shortage would obviously not be as severe, and maybe rents would even have to come down some.

Career politicians lie to us, they tell us what we want to hear, then do as they please once they are elected. Trump may be a narcissist, but he has kept his campaign promises even though the democrats have tried to block his every move. With him at least he says what he thinks, and really doesn't give a rats ass if some don't like it. It is why he will be elected again.
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Apr 17 2020 03:15AM     link to this

@Geemoney that was solid truth bro 👌

It was Regan that said "we dont make deals with terrorists.." but Trump lives and breaths that edict by nature and doesnt fake disdain for those who want to bring America down.
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Apr 17 2020 05:37AM     link to this

I can’t even imagine the fallout if this turns out to be true.

Bet you a $1.00 Trump uses it to cancel U.S. National debt to China.
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Apr 17 2020 09:18AM     link to this

As long as I get my PPP, fuck China
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Apr 17 2020 09:21AM     link to this

There’s a possibility of a treatment for COVID-19
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Apr 17 2020 09:28AM     link to this

Love to get back to work laying pipe

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