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I like the last part "When someone stomps on your freedom, there is only one ending and it's violence."
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another reason ca is so messed up with the second amendment
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At least I got to see them on Laura Ingraham.
Guess that's what caught YouTube's eye, too
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Their data were highly biased because they based their estimates of state-wide infection on the percentage of people who came to their clinics and tested positive. If you used the percent of people who go to oncology clinics who test positive for cancer, and try to extrapolate that out to the general population, you would conclude a very large percentage of Americans had cancer.
You must take random samples to come up with reliable data. Their sampling method was the opposite of random.
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Here�s the vid.
FU-tube.
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WHENEVER you see a YouTube video of interest, DOWNLOAD it. They can't take down what you've already saved.
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Here is a new take....
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I downloaded it last night saved on the hard drive.
I can go to Walmart which has 100’s of people and purchase a video game which is a non essential item. But then they close the golf courses
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Bakersfield boy on Fox News... have a good response on their math.
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Post op
Take your pills and ease up on the hyperbole. You're going to give yourself a stroke.
Keep sniffing Trump's jock, who will be remembered as the most inept, useless president of all time. Maybe it's a little entertaining to see a moron in the white house when the country is humming along, but to witness his futility when the country needs leadership is quite sad.
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It's on banned.video
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WRONG^^^
It was the right decision because without it, deaths were going to be over 200,000 in US alone but shutting down made a difference. It was worse in places where the virus had already mass spread like NYC. But isolation slowed down the spread, which may be inevitable that one way or another, most of us will get it.
Can you imagine if the country was running as usual, what would have happened to all hospitals across the country, that are already so busy before Covid.
When someone dies from the flu whether they have co-morbiditities, deaths are still reported as flu deaths; so it is right to label Covid deaths on those who have chronic illnesses.
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I will never understand why there are men on this site that are so angry and against Trump
and support this:
woke feminist
cancel Culture
socialist loving
Chinese comunist loving
political identity loving
anti secondement loving
Alexandri Ocasio Cortez loving
Muslim loving
Illegals felony loving
Democratic party!
I REALLY don't get it. I mean if you are a liberal looking for handout and for somebody else to paying your bills and forgo your responsabilities.. yes by all means vote Democrat.
But if you are not (and I assume that most of the men on this site are not)
and you work your ass for a living..
HOW THE FUCK YOU ARE VOTING FOR THE LEFT IN AMERICA TODAY??
I don't get it...
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The reason you don’t get it is because you watch Foxnews and have no sense of looking for what is reality. There’s isn’t anything like ‘handouts’ or some one else pays the bill. What the truth in that is we all pay taxes; and if we get sick or get laid off, then tax money is used to help us during that time.
We want the tax money to be used for people in poverty (but NOT, for example to pay a billionaire cabinet minister’s travel).
If majority of people had college degrees, then there would be less people in poverty and less “handouts”. That’s why liberals have argued for free school and college. In the end it’s not really free because tax money pays for it; and if can get out of poverty and work and pay taxes, that’s the cycle.
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"COVID-19 will go down as one of the political world’s biggest, most shamefully overblown, overhyped, overly and irrationally inflated and outright deceptively flawed responses to a health matter in American history, one that was carried largely on the lips of medical professionals who have no business running a national economy or government, then rabidly spread by the irrational liberal media."
You mean Trump shouldn't be listening to the advice of the people he hired? What? You're listening to the advice of doctors and then agreeing with them? What? I'm confused because Congress and the President are using the advice of experts they hired, sought consul from then making decisions on how to run the country. What group of experts should they be using when dealing with a pandemic? I'm not attacking, I'm trying to follow the logic.
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So, I'm not a doctor and this dude seems sincere, but wow!!
Comparing COVID to the flu is so wrong. Why?
We have had millions of people infected over the years with Influenza. We have a really strong understanding of who is at risk and what vaccines work. We even know that flu is seasonal and the numbers drop during the Spring and Summer months. Covid19.... We don't know..
Dr claims Influenza claims about 30-50k every year. COVID claimed much more than that in here in the US in about 2 months. Can we assume it's about to SLOW down? Who wants to play Russian roulette with your life or the life of someone you care about?
We know Social Distancing works, if everyone does it. Wash your hands, wear masks, and stay 6 feet away from me!
I don't see how this doctor is being responsible!
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Healer... ANYBODY can go to college in America today. NOBODY IS STOPPING YOU TO GET AN EDUCATION...
There are literally a gazillion colleges in america.. (for every pockets)
The only problem is that alot of these people attending EXPECT AND PRETEND that the rest of us pay for their useless degrees (that have NO income potential)...
that's crazy!
BY THE WAY.. i am from europe and College is theoretically "FREE" there.. and the unemployment rate is way HIGHER than the US.
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And this guy puts on, and takes off, his glasses 10,000 times over 15 minutes. That is a shady SOB if you ask me.
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I watched the video a few things really jumped out at me.
Basing their data exclusively on the walk-ins to their clinic isn't a good metric, nor representative of the population at large. And that is where I can see the video being removed because of biased reasoning.
Also, them doctors state that flu deaths in a year in the US varies at 30,000 maybe 50,000 on a bad year. But COVID-19 had 55,000+ deaths in 2-3 months, WITH restrictions and counting.
Yes, with restrictions, that's super important but the right type people all treat it like "heads I win, tails you lose" black and white shit, no matter what. What were the models again? We could have had 2 million deaths with no restrictions, 100k with restrictions.....and then we do the restrictions and we end up with 60k and they will scream about how the model was wrong and we didn't need restrictions. In a way we are doing better than expected but now the experts are being called out because it's not as bad as their predictions so obviously they are liars. Like, do you want people to die at those numbers or not?
This is right up there with anti vaxxer moms saying they don't need to vaccinate their clones because they themselves never got sick...even though their parents vaccinated them.
I won't disagree with the fact that this is wrecking the economy tho. That is the pickle for me. Would people be ok with Spanish Flu death numbers and still be working? Or is this stay at home order with a faggy lil' 60k corona death toll too much? That I idk what to say about the matter.
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He’s an ER doctor... basically a General Practitioner with no attention span. I’d be more inclined to listen to multiple epidemiologist than him.
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You guys crack me up.
Cover 19 has killed 50,000 in two months WITH a lockdown, with people wearing masks, with constant alerts on the media, The common flu has none of those things in place. If the common flu kill 35,000 in a year and covid 19 is killing 25,000 people per each month you do the math. What would happened if nothing was done. Also understand there a doubling affect with this highly contagious virus. so it wouldn't just be 25,000 x 12 months it would be higher.
As it is when the lockout are lifted covid 19 will not have went away and there might still be spikes in certain areas with certain populations. The experts also say they will be a resurgence in the fall similar to as it was with the Spanish flu.
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Harpooner is correct that the statistical extrapolation by these doctors is flawed. Currently for the most part the only people being tested are those that are sick enough that they have sought medical help and therefore you would expect a higher positive percentage than among the general public at large. In order to get a relatively accurate handle on the number of people who have been infected by covid-19 you would need to do a random sampling of the entire population.
Of course it is also fair to point out that the statistics being put out in the mainstream media for the last several weeks have been worthless as well. When they arrive at a 4% - 7% death rate based upon saying there were x number of people who tested positive and y number died they are ignoring the 80% of people who had the virus and showed little or no symptoms and therefore were not tested as well as some people who probably were sick but got over it without additional medical assistance.
The bottom line in all of these exercises is to actually listen to the information and form your own opinions by actually doing a little critical thinking. Just because someone has MD after their name does not mean they have common sense or are always right.
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these clowns are urgent care docs in Bakersfield. Erickson graduated from the western university of osteopathic medicine. Basically a glorified chiropractor.
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I tend to agree with crane_op. We are destroying lives in an attempt to save lives.
Even if 200K people died that's still less than 1% of the population.
The amount of economic damage seems huge and with each day the shutdown
continues, how are the states and local governments going to recoup the revenue
they are losing. Many want the Feds to bail them out.
With all the money being thrown out there to prevent the economy from collapsing
higher taxes seems inevitable.
Trump decided to go with the shutdown based on advice from his medical experts
which stated the it would bend the curve for infections and deaths and expected
to be able to reopen the economy by April 12th. However our
local politicians have changed that policy to saving lives at all costs.
Business owners and many citizens are feeling the economic and emotional
pain from the extended shutdown and want to go back to work as the risk of
dying seems to have been overstated.
And for those of you who have sympathy for the illegals, they need to get back
to work also.
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What of in that 1% was your family member? Would you still feel the same way?
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We are doing far more destruction to the economy than it's worth and that counts even if it's someone I know. That's assumed in the arguement.
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Crane, Washington ordered the soldiers be inoculated for smallpox in 1777 and 1778 during the smallpox epidemic.
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Youtube shouldn't be taking down videos like this unless they know 100% they're right. These tech companies are getting too political
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What if... Statistically... Annoy with people who use that type of rebuttal.
Best way to not get into a dangerous/deadly situation is prevention! Condoms, look both ways before stepping of the curb, eat healthy, don't drive drunk, etc. The problem with C19 is you can't accurately assess the level of danger because the stealthiness of the virus. Are you going to step off the curb onto a street without looking both ways with the philosophy of if it's your time - it's your time?
It sure doesn't guarantee things won't happen because sometime we have no choice but to errantly trust professionals like in a case of air travel disaster. This doctor is only one of a few who has a different view with the general consensus of what is safe. I'm not a doctor so not going to place judgement on him, but rather going with what I know is safe which is isolation from possible danger to myself and to others.
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........Trumps didn't shut down jack shit.
The mayor of San Fransisco was the first to do a shut down, Garrcetti shut down LA and then Newsmen shut down Ca. Then others states followed after that. Governors are the ones that did the shutdown not Trump.
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"What if your family were killed in an auto accident member? Would you want to ban cars?"
If there was one particular car that was killing 25,000 people a month you can damn well believe that car would be taken of the road and or recalled.
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Boogie, you are seeing things with tunnel vision.
You are focused that if we continued as is, then, yes 200,000 or more die and that’s it.
But you forget that how overwhelmed our health care system would have been if it continued as before and now adding 4-5 million with Covid and 200,000 dying; and plus healthcare workers getting sick ( in NYC that was up to 60% ER nurses becoming positive).
And possible even worse if airlines, concerts, movie theaters continued as before, i see the potential of 30 million positive (if not more) and maybe a million dead.
Imagine that scenario and what it would do to all of us.
The social distancing was NOT the cure but it was to slow down the even deadlier effects it would have had on all of us.
And as far as we know, there is NO herd immunity with this virus, in those who had the actual virus or being positive with antibodies. Because current understanding is that they can get Covid again. Maybe the vaccine will be different.
(Herd immunity helps only if the majority are immune to the virus, and it help those few who can’t get immunity. Like measles vaccine: if we all get the vaccine, we help prevent immunosuppressed folks from getting measles because they can’t get the measles vaccine)
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Some on here sound brainwashed by Stump and Fox News. Really sad.
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And the rest of you are being conned and bamboozled by CNN and MSNBC.....
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Manhattan Project Coronavirus
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Oh, you're right, why would we listen to expert doctors working on a solution?
You can just stay in your Mom's basement for the duration, k?
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Shelter in place isn't saving lives, it is delaying deaths. If you think that lives are currently being saved, then you are an idiot.
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Yes, shelter in place was put into effect to bend the curve...not save lives....but everyone has forgotten the original intent.
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