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May 2 2020 11:34PM more by heliman
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Do you believe in their way of thinking?
      
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May 3 2020 01:46AM     link to this

Yup
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May 3 2020 03:38AM     link to this

err what do you mean by democrat. I am not sure what a democrat is anymore.

Are they radical leftist who are hellbent in transforming America into Comblock state?

Are they so called progressives that believe in rights for everyone even if your not a citizen. That also believe they are entitled , and the government should protect and provide for them on there every whim.

Are they moderates that believe in cronie capitalism and use the positions in government as pay for play.


Just what the fuck is a democrat now a days .
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May 3 2020 07:01AM     link to this

Are you asking about specific Democrats or Democrats in general?

There is a large contingent of ugly pathological liars with advanced stage 4 TDS. Then there are the rest of them who should be calling them out but let there crap stand.

Actually, I kind of respect the columnist Debra Saunders, a liberal, Trump hater. She wrote a pretty good column today pointing out the lefts hypocrisy over the Biden sexual assault allegations.
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May 3 2020 07:15AM     link to this

was part of the radical left back in the 60's as I suspect many of us were to varying degrees
until I saw the mistakes and intolerance, still prevalent today
more on the conservative side now, although still that tinge of anarchist remains
jackrabbit33
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May 3 2020 07:40AM     link to this

No and I would argue that the typical Democrat cant even explain the benefits or feasibility of most of thier policies. They just keep harping on dumb shit.

j502
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May 3 2020 07:53AM     link to this

I’m a proud Democrat who can explain the benefits and feasibility of most of our policies. I can also explain how many, not all, of the policies being pushed by Republicans today are designed to benefit their major donors and disenfranchise the working class.

I’m fact-based and respectful to those who are respectful in return. However, there seem to be very few who fit that description in these blogs. Most are just trolls looking to get a rise out of people.
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May 3 2020 08:21AM     link to this

Perfect circle ❤
pieranna
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May 3 2020 09:19AM     link to this

I am an Ex-Democrat.. Dave Rubin is a person that I admire.
818_cum
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May 3 2020 10:06AM     link to this

Yes!
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May 3 2020 10:24AM     link to this

I used to admire abbie hoffman and jerry rubin. but that was in '68

don't forget ex mr jane fonda, tom hayden was a cal congressman and a member of the chicago 7
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May 3 2020 10:58AM     link to this

The current Democratic party has two factions thanks to Bernie Sanders who is actually an independent and the current Republican party has two factions thanks to Trump.
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May 3 2020 11:04AM     link to this

If the Democratic party is Bernie Sanders, AOC, Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib.....NOPE. John Kennedy is probably turning over in his grave. Socialists, each and every one of them.....
rianwho
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May 3 2020 11:25AM     link to this

Seeing as 95% of the Democratic party (in government) are center-right corporatists (i.e. Republican-lite), I don't necessarily believe in that way of thinking. That said, I'm certainly not going to go further down the road by voting Republican in an attempt to strip all power out of the hands of the people and give complete control to the corporations where we have no representation whatsoever.

Ugh. Nothing about the Democrats in the USA is even remotely 'socialist'. Money and capitalism drives them almost as hard as it does the Repubs.
jazz51
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May 3 2020 11:30AM     link to this

rianwho....have you been listening to AOC, Bernie, Omar? You must have a huge wax build up. The Democrats are pushing an agenda that is totally socialist. Free health care, free college, guaranteed monthly income, full benefits for illegal aliens, demand for determination who sits on a corporate board of directors...and the list goes on and on.....
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May 3 2020 11:31AM     link to this

And Joe is going where ever the wind blows.....Bernie will have a significant say in the platform this election.
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May 3 2020 12:03PM     link to this

I said 95% of the Dems, and that's probably an understatement. And again, none of the people that you name are calling for an end to capitalism. Bernie himself is a hell of a successful capitalist. None of them are calling for the means of production to be wholly transferred to the workers (which is the truly the main & necessary mark of a 'socialist' government/agenda). Not. One. Of. Them.

They are calling for a support system that is necessary in an economy that is run by the top 1% and leaves so many disenfranchised. In truth, they are merely preserving the current system by attempting to throw the public a bone that will satiate them longer (avoiding public revolt) while the corporatists continue to run the show, rake in profits, and write the laws.
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May 3 2020 12:04PM     link to this

Anything is better that Trump not believing and Science and not believing that the virus would hurt the US.
What has happened to the Republican Party (Fiscal response ability) you guys exploded the deficit with those tax cuts from Trump. Your BS wall, not letting witnesses in the impeachment trial, you hate of the others Muslims,Mexicans etc.... There has always been a faction of the Nationalism in your party but with Trump you have let that ideology invade and dominate your party.

Democrats are cool with having Republicans we can disagree with but Trump is making your party look like something from another time and another country and you guys are riding right along with him.
pieranna
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May 3 2020 12:21PM     link to this

Great posts Jazzy..
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May 3 2020 12:22PM     link to this

Both the dems and repubs have morphed into something they never meant to be.
If FDR, Truman & JFK were alive today they'd be considered 'conservative Democrats' if not liberal Republicans. Eisenhower would also be considered a moderate-liberal Republican.
Those 4 were the last of the 'Best of the Best'.
Since then it's been like a 3 Stooges movie.


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May 3 2020 12:26PM     link to this

To Rianwho.. this system worked fine for me.. and thousands of people. I came here from Europe pennyless and now I make a pretty good living..
HOW I DID IT?
by working my ass off. I have never complained about the riches


It can be done.. in fact IT HAS BEEN DONE millions of time by people coming here.

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May 3 2020 12:33PM     link to this

Yes, pieranna....the American Dream can be alive and well, but not if the socialist Democrats get their way.

rianwho....maybe the majority of Democrats don't want socialism, but the outspoken in their party are pushing hard in that direction and candidates like Biden who want to make everyone happy will blindly go along with that push of the wind.
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May 3 2020 12:35PM     link to this

bytheway.. did you guys see that interview of Biden on MSNBC... jesus christ.
The guy is really worrysome He cannot keep two sentences together..

OF COURSE crickets and silence from the main stree media.

Can you image if Biden was a Republican????? They would have put that video in rotation 24/7...
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May 3 2020 12:39PM     link to this

They are just propping him up, hoping he can make it to November....choose a VP, get elected and let the VP take over when he crashes and burns......

They are praying that there are enough Trump haters that people will overlook that Joe has lost it.
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May 3 2020 12:40PM     link to this

Dude Bernie is the economical socialist and he's out of the running for President so stop with that Socialist Bullshit. It doesn't fly anymore.
jazz51
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May 3 2020 12:47PM     link to this

Bernie is not gone yet.....


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https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/22/pro-bernie-sanders-group-pushes-for-delegates-to-influence-democratic-platform.html
jazz51
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May 3 2020 12:48PM     link to this

Nor are the squad......

The outspoken in the Dem party are farther left leaning that Joe.
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May 3 2020 12:54PM     link to this

The squad is not running for President.

You mention Dems what about Trump and those Nationalist.
jazz51
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May 3 2020 12:56PM     link to this

Dude...you can't see the direction the party is going? I have dozens of Democratic friends who are absolutely disgusted with their party and plan to vote for Trump.
jackrabbit33
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May 3 2020 12:58PM     link to this

^^^ no shit...

Just saying. Putting politics aside. You cant give the nuclear football to a guy like that.

That was a talk with a friendly media source for what... 10 minutes and he's losing it...?

And he wants a job running the country. Who's really in charge
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May 3 2020 01:05PM     link to this

@jazz51 you can't see the direction the Republican party is going in??
It looks like how people in Germany followed Hitler in the 30's.
Theres nothing Trump does that you guys see is wrong?? Its fucking unbelievable!
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May 3 2020 01:06PM     link to this

jazz51 you have Democratic FRIENDS
jackrabbit33
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May 3 2020 01:17PM     link to this

Dude in the 30's under Hitler the Brown shirts would go around harassing people and things drifted towards violence and murder when they got more power.

That's alot closer to the hit and run tactics of the left by calling anyone and everyone racist for whatever reason, having the FBI conduct sham investigations, and wasting time with a bogus media onslaught and a waste of time Impeachment when the Pandemic was starting.
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May 3 2020 01:24PM     link to this

^Dude find someone else to play your troll games with.
Get out of your studio apartment and go interact with some real people.
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May 3 2020 01:33PM     link to this

I own a home which is paid for and I have a nice family
jazz51
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May 3 2020 01:50PM     link to this

Dude...what Newsom is doing in this State is far closer to Hitler than anything Trump is doing.

Categorizing Trump along with atrocities of the Nazis is the most vile and vicious thing a person can do.....you are obviously clueless about the concentration camps.....you make yourself sound even more idiotic making this comparison.

You might ask a few holocaust survivors if they would categorize Trump as Hitler...they probably would slap you down.
jazz51
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May 3 2020 01:53PM     link to this

The fact that people on the left constantly call people as racist and Nazis....that means they have lost all objectivity and rational thought. They have no comparative logical minds.....just deluded by rage, hatred and contempt for their fellow men.
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May 3 2020 02:04PM     link to this

No
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May 3 2020 02:13PM     link to this

brown shirts are the predecessors of the dem anti-fa movement, totally fascist
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May 3 2020 02:15PM     link to this

I love the comment "expand deficit with tax cuts" regardless who is running government.

How about spending within your means.

Quick poll.

How many you can rack up more debt than assets and go to you employer and demand them to cover it?

It's sad that this nation is getting more and more comfortable giving up their hard earned money, their hard earned liberty/freedom. (through the sacrifice of those before us).

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May 3 2020 02:16PM     link to this

Isn’t the Confederate Flag and swasticas at these armed rallies in Michigan and elsewhere a cause for concern. Not saying these are our Brownshirts but there are similarities.
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May 3 2020 02:19PM     link to this

"what Newsom is doing in this State is far closer to Hitler than anything Trump is doing."

He's trying to save people from themselves so we can open the state and not have another spike of virus. California was one of the first big states to lockdown and hopefully will be one of the first big states to reopen (correctly).
km1111
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May 3 2020 02:25PM     link to this

No. The Confederate Flag and Swastikas are not a concern in of itself.

The media will show the extremes on BOTH sides of an issues.

The great part of America is that everyone has a right to speak their mind. Those idiots are just a very tiny fraction of all us that are losing liberty.

I personally have enough faith in America and common sense to know that there are racists in the world and will always be, however, for the most part Americans are not.

The media will try to scare or inhibit with stupid terms like institutional racism. The purpose is to make many believe that the deck is stacked against them. It is up to the individual to weed through all the BS, educate themselves, and take advantage of the OPPORTUNITY this country allows.
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May 3 2020 02:28PM     link to this

"Those idiots are just a very tiny fraction"

Those idiots have felt very embolden to come out in the open and they have increased in numbers since Trump has been President. The numbers of hate crimes has increased each year he has been in office as well.
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May 3 2020 02:31PM     link to this

I guess that the Antifa guys are emboldened because of Trump as well.

There are idiots on both sides both you chose to only speak about one side.
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May 3 2020 02:54PM     link to this

Are these socialist? "Free health care, free college, guaranteed monthly income, full benefits for illegal aliens, demand for determination who sits on a corporate board of directors...and the list goes on and on....."

Medicare for all is socialist, but there are other health care plans, like those from Switzerland and the Netherlands that are universal healthcare plans that have a private insurance backbone that some Democrats and Republicans should be pushing as an alternative to medicare for all.

Free college is something that has been around before and has worked well (think New York City last century). There is a capitalist argument to have free college. People who get through college will make more money, on average, than those that don't, and thus will be better consumers in the free market and could also better subsidize the cost of free college.

Benefits for illegal aliens also has a capitalist angle to it. Health care costs would overall be reduced by not having aliens wait until they are super sick and end up in the emergency rooms of hospitals, which is very expensive.

Demand for determination who sits on a corporate board of directors is truly socialist, and I'm against it.



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May 3 2020 02:58PM     link to this

Antifa


Had you heard of them before Trump and FOX news tried to promote them as some kind of equalizer to right wing hate crimes increasing?
Night-Rider
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May 3 2020 03:03PM     link to this

"Dude...what Newsom is doing in this State is far closer to Hitler than anything Trump is doing."

I guess telling people who aren't white or aren't illegal to go back to their "shitouse" countries of origin (like Nazi Germany wanted to expel the Jews) doesn't qualify?
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May 3 2020 03:03PM     link to this

Nightrider....we cannot afford most of those things.

The cure to illegal aliens taxing our medical system is improved immigration so only those who are here legally are part of the system.
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