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Locked. No further comments permitted.New data on hydroxychloroquine
May 22 2020 06:47AM more by phlampson
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Anyone still want to take this?
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jackrabbit33
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May 22 2020 06:58AM     link to this

Ok,... so the people who got a Pulitzer Prize for stellar coverage of "Russian collusion" by the Trump campaign says that a drug that's been around since 1955 is unsafe.

👌 got it
Facephuckker
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May 22 2020 07:29AM     link to this

that is hilarious

next it will published in the huffjob post and will be on all the left wing media and dem talking points like lemmings
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May 22 2020 08:45AM     link to this

One of the side effects of a Zpak which is taken along with chloroquine is arrhythmia. It's probably from the antibiotic. Journalists aren't very bright people.
PeteMalloy
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May 22 2020 09:23AM     link to this

Trump 2020


Pompeo 2024 and 2028






Democratic Party splits off into three separate parties in 2025 :


Socialist Party


Liberal Extreme Left Party


Moderate Left Party
wunanddun
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May 22 2020 10:12AM     link to this

The irregular heart rhythm thing has been "documented". Why is it that arrhythmia is a concern for hydrochlorquine +zpac patients but not Cannabis users? I think the approach to "journalism" these days is if anyone not of our ilk supports something we will find one thing and harp on that to make it sound like its the ONLY thing that should be considered.

I don't see them promoting any alternative studies or the MSM. They have no idea what works just that this one thing WONT and will put you in danger!! Sensationalistic bullshit.

We all know radiation and chemotherapy are bad for you, thousands are put through it and die from the "treatment" of cancer every year. That's perspective something the Washington Post seems to have lost since the days of Watergate and some would argue before.

Healer
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May 22 2020 10:27AM     link to this

SMH ^^^
What a bunch of idiots! Proof that Trump supporters are uneducated bunch of grass feeders.
ALL news outlets are reporting the study published in Lancet earlier today.
It’s one of the most prestigious medical journal.
The Washington Post didn’t do the study or make any conclusions. That was the study conclusion.
You are morons like your fearless leader!
wunanddun
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May 22 2020 10:36AM     link to this

@ Healer then answer my question. Why is arrhythmia not much of a concern for a cannabis user but LIFE threatening for a Covid patient?

Hell COVID is life threatening does the addition of HCQ increase the chances of death? It might under certain conditions Ill give you that.

The cited work is a " retrospective analysis of medical records" much like the vaunted study that was supposedly conducted by the VA in which most of the Dr's were OPTHAMOLOGISTS and not epidemiologists or Infectious disease Dr.s. You look for your confirmation bias, I'll look into what and who is saying it.

I took HCQ for months no doctors were worried about my heart when doing so. All the sudden its a focus for this. Give me a fricken break.
NPembrush
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May 22 2020 10:50AM     link to this

Actually I'd like to see other Republican choices. I'm not a fan of polarizing presidents.
As for democrats might want to add the penchant for starting lots of wars.
flash911
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May 22 2020 10:51AM     link to this

The article itself is flawed. States, it's not the 'Gold Standard' testing methodology. Only tested on people already in the hospital and in very bad shape. AFAIK that's not what HCQ is for; it is prescribed as a prophylactic or for people with mild symptoms.

I don't know if HCQ +/- Zithro and Zinc is good or bad, but ask yourself,...

WHY is the DEM Media trying so hard to discredit a potential therapy?

WHY is the DEM media trying to scare everyone?

WHY is the DEM media trying to keep everyone indoors?

WHY is the DEM media trying to keep the economy in the tank?

WHY is the Fake News media so anti-american?

WHY did fuckface Newsome say 2.2million in CA were going to die?

WHY is Gaylord, ahem Garcetti enforcing a lockdown into August with low case/ death numbers while other states are opening up?

WHY are Georgia and Florida and So Dakota cases going down as the lockdowns end?

WHY is contract tracing so valuable to Dems?

WHY is Big Tech supporting China but not the US - i.e. censorship apps?

WHY do so many on this site scream death and destruction? NightRider and a few others that's YOU.

Take the Red Pill. You'll find what you seek.

The truth will set you free.

Have a fun filled day and enjoy our national holiday weekend,
wunanddun
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May 22 2020 11:00AM     link to this

@PH - Why is this even about The President? Other than the fact he mentioned it and people lost their minds.

Right now!! there is no "approved" alternative treatment for Covid-19. It is outright irresponsible to dis-regard a treatment that has at least anecdotal evidence of being effective without a real approved alternative. Not everyone can or should wait for a remdesivir dose... there is not enough to go around. The media is not telling you what you can do only what they think you shouldn't do. only taking a stand against Trump and not taking a stand for patients.
Healer
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May 22 2020 11:00AM     link to this

Dude, why are you asking me that? , we are talking about Covid,
why don’t you just google: ‘cannabis overdose arrhythmia”
People come in to the ERs all the time with cannabis, cocaine, meth arrhythmias.

Quick summary:
The study was an international registry for Covid patients admitted to hospitals. Over 95000 patients.
Showed no benefit for hydroxy or zpak, alone or together. In fact increase in mortality was increased in all those who got the drug or combination of drugs. Arrhythmias were significantly increased in al,those who got the medications, though it wasn’t necessarily the cause of death.
Healer
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May 22 2020 11:06AM     link to this

Another uneducated fool!

(By the way cases in Florida and Georgia are trending up. Making up your own news doesn’t make you free. Makes you a moron.
And yes if travel had not been restricted, and without social distancing and stay at home, numbers of deaths could have been up to millions)
redbull09
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May 22 2020 11:07AM     link to this

TWITTLER rules the imbecile ditto heads!
flash911
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May 22 2020 11:11AM     link to this

lol, 2.2 to 20k due to lockdown? I'm not buying it?
flash911
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May 22 2020 11:14AM     link to this

Birx just said states are opening up, hospitalizations going down.

Don't be a sheep.
GoBallsDeep
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May 22 2020 11:17AM     link to this

Please tell me why WHO has HCQ listed as follows?

Chloroquine was discovered in 1934 by Hans Andersag.[5][6] It is on the World Health Organization's List of Essential Medicines, the safest and most effective medicines needed in a health system.[7] It is available as a generic medication.[1]

I have no clue whether it's effective against CV19, probably more studies need to be done.
However, HCQ is one of the go to medications for Malaria, Lupus, Amebiasis, and Rheumatic disease.
Has anyone told those people that they're about to die from arrhythmia???

I don't question the study cited by the Washington Post but i do question why the WashPost doesn't also speak to the issues I've noted above?

It's not a trustworthy source. I prefer the LA Times for my prescription information!

GoBallsDeep
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May 22 2020 11:20AM     link to this

sorry for incorrect citing of Chloroquine, but same is true of Hydroxychloroquine

Damn, these things are so easy to check on, why don't some of you just look before you throw up on the site?

Hydroxychloroquine was approved for medical use in the United States in 1955.[2] It is on the World Health Organization's List of Essential Medicines, the safest and most effective medicines needed in a health system.[8] In 2017, it was the 128th most commonly prescribed medication in the United States, with more than five million prescriptions.[9][
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GoBallsDeep
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May 22 2020 11:28AM     link to this

"without social distancing and stay at home, numbers of deaths could have been up to millions)"

Who's the uneducated fool?

In New York, Gov. Andrew Cuomo noted on May 6 that it was "shocking" to find that two-thirds of patients recently hospitalized in the state were people who were sheltering at HOME.
"They were literally at HOME", he added for emphasis.

How can a virus that has spread during a shutdown stop spreading when the shutdown ends?

IT CAN"T and we must plan and prepare.

So, put on your big girl panties and get ready for some more people to die. You can't stop it.

If we all thought like you guys, we would set the national speed limit to 15 mph and eliminate 30,000 deaths a year, economic costs be damned.
It is no different regardless your mealy mouth bs.

C'mon snowflakes, cry me a river. Show off your angst


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May 22 2020 11:47AM     link to this

@carrier. Who you talking to Willis I'll channel my inner Biden.

"I think I probably have a much higher IQ than you do, I suspect," "I went to" Medical "school on a full academic scholarship."

"I was the only one in my class to have a full academic scholarship. ... The first year in" Medical " school I decided I didn’t want to be in" Medical " school and ended up in the bottom two-thirds of my class and then decided I wanted to stay and went back to" Medical " school and in fact ended up in the top half of my class"


Or was it Engineering I'm not sure it was so long ago.

coolbob1961
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May 22 2020 01:07PM     link to this

well anyone is really stupid to think anything that President tweety says is true .. It is proven it is easy to tell when Trump is lying HE IS AWAKE!!! 20K AND COUNTING.. WORLDS BIGGEST LIAR!
AFMadness
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May 22 2020 01:15PM     link to this

Washington Post. Backer of the Vaccine. You go first.
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May 22 2020 01:32PM     link to this

I don't know if hydroxychloroquine works or not. I hope it does work to help save lives. The thing is Trump is not the person that should be promoting it. He's looking for some quick fix to try to take credit for something. Health care providers and doctors should be the ones who decide prescribe medicine and they should be the only ones to evaluate who should and shouldn't take it.
Trump has fucked up the crisis from every angle possible. The US has the most cases and the most deaths of any country on earth from the cornavirus. 1.6 mil cases and 97,000 deaths. The virus didn't originate here so why so many more infections here than any other country? Can you Trumps supporters tell me how a President could have handled this criss any worst?
shockg
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May 22 2020 01:51PM     link to this

Figures the Trump cult followers refuse to listen to common sense
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May 22 2020 01:54PM     link to this

97,000 deaths
1.6 million cases
Most people unemployed since the great depression
Trillion of dollars in government stimulus sent out
Thousands of businesses going out of business
2 months and counting state lockdowns though out the country


What other country has this happen to, to this extent?
-No national strategy. (just winging it)
-President has encouraged people to break rules his own administration put in place.
-The President won't even wear a fucking mask?
Ask yourself is honestly Trump supporters, could this been handled differently?
Would lives have been saved?
Would economy have been spared this hardship?
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May 22 2020 02:11PM     link to this

People Trump has blamed during this crisis:

China
World Health Org.
State Governors
The Media
The death toll numbers
Blamed people of hospitals, saying they were stealing masks
President Obama
Dr Faucci
Democrats
Testing labs

on and on and on............

He's the fuckin Blamer in Chief.
You want this guy another 4 years?? He shouldn't even serve another 4 weeks!
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May 22 2020 02:14PM     link to this

Blah,blah, blah....

Same stats each time you respond...

No other President has had to deal with something of this magnitude.

We have heard nothing from the Democrats how to do it better....hell Nancy said to come to Chinatown....and Poor Joe doesn't even know what office he is running for......
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May 22 2020 02:31PM     link to this

The fuck are you talking about the Trump administration was briefed on a possible pandemic when he came into office. There was the Ebola scare in 2014/15. HE IGNORED it and didn't prepare.



RIGHT HERE

Obama must be a fucking prophet
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May 22 2020 02:33PM     link to this

Trump hasn't fucked anything up

Its ridiculous that we are in a worldwide pandemic like this where China has unleashed something on the world and did nothing to prevent worldwide spread initially. yet the left is bashing Trump and acting like a mere mention of china is a distraction.

Trump shut down travel early. It is the blue state grove's of NY, NJ, PA that caused MAX death toll by putting COVID patients with the elderly. TRUMP DIDNT DO THAT.

I dont care about this whole hydroxy what the fuck discussion really. It's a steaming TDS talking point.

Trump could say " everybody chill and take a deep breath of air" but Congress would enact a bill requiring all citizens to breath pure O2 from a green tank.

jazz51
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May 22 2020 02:40PM     link to this

Dude...a pandemic has been the discussion of every administration....

We have failed for 20 years.

If you want to blame...you have to start with Clinton, Bush and also include Obama.....

Each of Trump's predecessors got fucking lucky it didn't happen on their watch......

But every previous President would have also been caught lacking.....

And you didn't respond about Nancy and other Dems who were not focused on it either.....if it was such a huge thing, why didn't some democrat speak up...oh that's right, they were totally engaged in impeachment and not giving a rat's ass about a pandemic.

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jazz51
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May 22 2020 02:41PM     link to this

And your beloved Obama left the strategic supply short......
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May 22 2020 02:43PM     link to this

Obama said in that clip "If a pandemic hits like the Spanish Flu, 5 years from now or 10 years from now we have to be prepared". That speech was about 5 years ago.

#ObamatheProphet
jazz51
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May 22 2020 02:45PM     link to this

But he didn't prepare either and left the stockpile of PPE not at full capacity....so he may be a prophet but did nothing to fix it.....
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May 22 2020 02:46PM     link to this

He is as much to blame as EVERY President for the past 20 years.
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May 22 2020 02:53PM     link to this

"Sir this medicine may keep you from dying of C-19 but your heart may beat a little funny while your taking it. We'll monitor it of course."

"Wait is this that drug that Trump endorses and has CNN, MSNBC and The WP all excited? Fuck that. Let me die."

"Literally millions of people take it for other medical conditions."

"Fuck you Republican Nazi bastard. I'm not falling for that shit."
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May 22 2020 02:57PM     link to this

So you think Obama who had just went though an Ebola scare did not give the incoming administration amble information of a possible impending pandemic? You can see in this speech he was concerned about. You keep listening to Trump's BS. Obama is on Trump's Bullshit blame someone list. Trump has been President for all most a full term. If Trump had any concern or thought of a pandemic he should have taken steps to prepare. Stockpile or what ever. THATS THE JOB OF A PRESIDENT!

#ObamatheProphet
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May 22 2020 02:57PM     link to this

Let me guess Obama forced trump to wait on acting on the early warnings about covid 19. He also forced dump to drag his feet on invoking the defense production act.
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May 22 2020 03:05PM     link to this

Thank god the Repubtard demo is old, angry and white - they will die off pretty rapidly and the GOP will be irrelevant within a generation. Can’t happen soon enough. Off the rails stupidity like this has killed the American experiment.
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May 22 2020 03:11PM     link to this

You obviously don't have the balls to read what I attached...

All of the Presidents fucked up....Obama allowed Federal stockpiles to drop...

He probably got a better grade than some presidents...but he was still part of the problem....

We didn't have enough supplies and Obama left the stockpile short....
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jazz51
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May 22 2020 03:12PM     link to this

And when the Socialistic Democratic Party runs this country into the ground and you are paying 50% taxes and get nothing...don't blame all the old Republican white guys.....
phlampson
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May 22 2020 03:35PM     link to this

There's nothing quite like a national emergency to expose the hypocrisy and stupidity of the Trump-loving wingnuts.

For anyone that doesn't follow politics, observe closely. This is the bullshit that is being slung by the conservatives.
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May 22 2020 03:40PM     link to this

I just read the first couple comments and skipped the middle.

But some of you are fucking idiots.

The Washington Post did not conduct the fucking study. I can't even imagine thinking that they did.

"The study, published Friday in the medical journal Lancet is the largest analysis to date of the risks and benefits of treating covid-19 patients with antimalarial drugs."
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May 22 2020 04:00PM     link to this

Bottom line peeps , Big Orange Boogie Man will retain the title on Nov 4th , and sorry to say the product the Democratic Socialist Party have given to everyone is not a option worth shizzle ,,only if you are into diarrhea or vomiting for the next 4 years . Prepare for Sleepy Joe to be destroyed.
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May 22 2020 04:06PM     link to this

Can you explain to me why political leanings have any way skewed judgement about the possibility that this drug might unsafe when it has been used all over the world without MUCH concern for > 50 fucking years!!!!
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May 22 2020 04:15PM     link to this

Yes, lupus, malaria and arthritis patients have used it safety for decades.....
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