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I read that with the jazz trumpet from all Spike Lee's movies playing in my head
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Jimbo.... You are right about racism and what happened to the gentleman in Minnesota.
I have to disagree about the free masks only given to white people though... Just today I handed out masks to 2 filipinos a 3 hispanics and a black man. Yes once again the black man got shafted but to be fair he was the only black man that came through the doors and he was the first customer of the day.
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Dont tell me I dont think race is a problem. It is.. i agree.
But let's not get confused and view this through the lens of "4 white cops beat a black man who dies" there's more to the story for sure.
The four cops got fired... done. They probably have families to support but now that's over. Hope you guys feel good about that. No Rodney King trial with a bullshit verdict.
Now here's a written story about what happened to provide context.
"The incident in Minneapolis began with a report of a customer attempting to use a counterfeit $20 bill at a store.
The officers located the suspect in his car, police said in a statement. They were told the man, who has not been identified, was "sitting on top of a blue car and appeared to be under the influence".
After being ordered to step away from the vehicle, the man physically resisted officers, according to police. "Officers were able to get the suspect into handcuffs and noted he appeared to be suffering medical distress," the statement added."
I suppose you think cops or media made all that shit up and had no reason to apprehend the guy. So four cops lost their jobs because they had to deal with this one guy today. It doesnt matter if those cops are black, brown, yellow, white, or gay. They no longer can provide for thier families.
It's unfortunate the guy died for sure... dont get me wrong. The cops probably violated some sort of protocol along the way. You know it will be reviewed.
Go ahead. Call me a racist.
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You�ve got to be the dumbest motherfucker on earth. You want to talk about motherfuckers who can�t provide for their family? You stupid bitch. If you or I break a law where the penalty is years in jail. Neither one of us could provide for our families. But he broke the fucking law. That�s why he can�t provide for his family. Fuck being a racist, yo bitch ass is just stupid. If I watched the right video, didn�t that cop have his knee on his neck, with his hand on his hip. Talking shit like �get in the car now� motherfucker. I did see the same video you saw right? The one where he was in handcuffs and we watched him with his knee on his neck for a few minutes. At what point when the cop has him down, as he is choking him out. couldn�t he have picked him up and put him in the car? By your analogy I guess you just choke a man out until he�s gone, then you go back to work pick up your check and go home and feed your family! I hate stupid bitches like you. It�s motherfuckers like you with your Dumbass attitude and your fucking keyboard that keeps shit fucked up.
I hate havin to type all this. But this is where we at people. What he said is literally how people think. A passive apology for the victim, The oh my God, how are these cops going to feed their family. Fucking incredible. Somebody help me out� Didn�t that cop kill somebody, then go back to the office and got fired, and then they just let him go home? I really don�t like following the news. But I don�t remember him Getting fired and going to jail. Boy I wish I had some good pussy to beat up
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Relax. One stupid cop that happens to be white doesn't make the entire department racist. Black and hispanic people are always looking for a reason to get our of line. Cop should jailed. What about all the black on black killings that happen in urban areas. Black a hispanic people let that shit slide. By slide I mean don't drop a dime on the guilty. Don't let a white cop kill a black person because all hell.breaks loose. I didn't vote for trump so i don't give a fuck. black people are some of the most racist. Only people that ever called me a wetback happen to be black.
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You have got to be the dumbest motherfucker on earth. You want to talk about motherfuckahs who can't provide for their family? You stupid bitch, If you or I break a law where the penalty is years in prison. Neither one of us could provide for our families. But he broke the fuckin law. That why he can't provide for his family. Fuck being a racist, Yo bitch ass is just fuckin stupid. If I watched the right video, didn't that cop have his knee on his neck, with his hand on his hip? Talking shit like get in the car now motherfuckah. I did see the same video you saw right? The one where he was in handcuffs, and we watched him with his knee on his neck for a few minutes. At what point when the cop has him down on the ground, as he is choking him out. Couldn't he have picked him up and put him in the car? But by yo stank ass analogy, I guess you just choke a man out until he's DEAD, then you go back to work, pick up your check and go home and feed your family! I hate stupid bitches like you. Its motherfuckers like you with your Dumbass attitude and your fucking keyboard that keeps shit fucked up.
I hate havin to type all this. But this is where we at people. What he said is literally how people think. A passive apology for the victim, Then oh my God, how are these cops going to feed/provide for their family. It's In-Fuckin incredible how naive your thought process is. Somebody help me out. Didn't that cop kill somebody, then go back to the office and got fired, and then they just let him go home? I really don't follow the news. But I don't remember him getting fired and going to jail.
Boy I wish I had some good pussy to beat up! Night yall
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funny, but it looked like the cop who killed the man was white and his partner was asian
both will be indicted for murder, no doubt about it, but that doesn't make racism the rampant problem you left wing radicals and media propose it to be
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“People are people so why should it be
You and I should get along so awfully?
People are people so why should it be
You and I should get along so awfully?
So we're different colors, and we're different breeds
And different people, have different needs
It's obvious you hate me, though I've done nothing wrong
I've never even met you, so what I could I have done?
I can't understand
What makes a man hate another man?
Help me understand”
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+1
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There is nothing that can be said to defend these officers. Even if he had been a gun wielding lunatic, he was down and it seemed from the video cuffed. It doesn’t matter what happened before the video. Officers do not have the authority to “punish” bad behavior.. I don’t know the officers or the full context , so I am not going to try to attribute motive (Hate, Racism, etc...) but what I saw was callous indifference. It cost a man his life. They should have been fired immediately (after proper review), which they were. They should be arrested and charged appropriately. Which I believe they will be.
When a large group of people (almost 700,000 law enforcement officers in the US) have physical authority... there will be ghastly abuses.
Unfortunately police are rarely held accountable. I hope in this one they are.
Interesting info below....
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More of a poverty issue.
Groups have also suggested that minorities are more likely to die of Cavid19 because they are minorities. More likely it has to do with a a poverty demographic rather than a minority demographic.
Some of the victims share some culpability for being in a suspect area , doing suspect actions and above all resisting actions.
For God's sake if you resist the instructions of the Police you will be taken down. If you're not doing anything wrong just comply.
Being that said the actions of the police in this latest incident are pretty egregious.
When individual cops do something this bad they need to be held accountable.
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Blue,
I agree LE have a difficult, sometimes impossible job... and the deal daily with the dregs of society. And MOST do an amazing job. So many are heroes.
With that said, there are moments of clarity. This seems to be one of them.
This seems to have been clear and unnecessary abuse.
What happened in Chicago or St. Louis has no bearing on this single moment in Minneapolis. We can start another blog about the horrors of violence communities inflict on themselves. The reasons, causes, effects and solutions... but that discussion is irrelevant to this one.
We know wrong when we see it. It scares all of us for different reasons. Some feel, “that could have been me or someone I love. Some feel, as worldclass stated, the boldness to do that in clear view of witnesses and cameras means there is an untouchable, unaccountable type arrogance with some law enforcement. Some feel the need to defend the officers (not saying that is you) in fear that pointing out this wrong becomes a slippery slope to indict the entire system.
These are the tough moments in life. Are we big enough to call foul... on ourselves. It seems the Mayor, the police chief, the review board are willing in this case. Next it will be the District Attorney... let’s see what happens.
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Medically speaking......a person how is able to speak ca breath.
Speaking requires air to travel over the vocal cords.
So as long as you can speak you can breathe.
But basically if you don't resist you will not likely get put in that position.
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Yeah.... He could breath. that guy was being tricky... right up to the point he died.
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Kaiser....I think Blue's point is that no one else posted a blog about the ten people who died and the 39 others who were wounded in the weekend shootings in Chicago ......that just falls by the wayside....its all bad.
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I am not even surprised at the lack of empathy displayed here.
I am not even surprised by the deflections used here to justify what appears to be the senseless death of another human being.
Every job has its challenges, especially those that involve dealing with the general public.
If you are not able to perform a high stress job with a modicum of self-control, then it is time to find another line of work.
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Hey Sam.... don’t lump me in with these un-empathetic HXers! I AM WOKE I TELL YA!
Jazz, I understood her point... but it’s deflection. It’s trying to create a false equivalence.
The government taking a life under the color of authority is much different than citizens killing each other.... for whatever reason.
We have to be able to differentiate... particularly in a time when government overreach is growing.
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Oooooo the seething anger! LOL
Yeah... you are right. ‘ Well... what about Black on Black crime?” Is the appropriate response to a police officer keeping his knee on the neck of a suspect in custody, on the ground and handcuffed... until he dies.
My bad.
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Eye for an eye.
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Jimbo is a fucking moron if he thinks white people don't get fucked up by the police.
A friend of mine popped off to an L.A. County Sheriff about 10 years ago, my friend was a passenger when I got pulled over on the 101 Freeway just past Calabasas.
The Sheriff yanked his head out the car window, put him in a headlock,and shot pepper spray straight up his nose.
Why? Because he said, "Don't you have something better to do than to hassle me? I haven't done anything wrong." This was in response to the Sheriff demanding his ID, and saying he was high on drugs and that he wanted to take him out of the car and search him.
He had no drugs, was not high, and never used drugs a single time in his life.
And that happened in Los Angeles to middle-upper middle class white guys in their early 20s, driving in a nice car, clean cut, and decently dresses, on a Friday night at around 11 pm.
Plenty of whites get beaten by cops, get their rights violated, and die at the hands of police officers and their abuse in public and in the jails. This a a cop problem, not a black and white problem.
Stop with the division.
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Yo Jazzy, cool story but you coulda stopped here
"Jimbo is a fucking moron"
That having been said, there is NO excuse for that officer, who had also been involved in a couple of previous similar instances.
Hopefully its off to jail where karma is a shiv to the kidney.
Sorry for my lack of empathy but that fucker got some evil in him
No excuse for the media to skip the Chicago shooting toll either but its expected of them
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Stripping color out of the issue for a moment. Just a moment please. However if you are pissed off; just ignore the rest and start swearing at me.
Youtube is great for learning about stuff. This is what I learned a few years ago on the process of arresting someone (someone here will think I'm LE which is funny, I do NOT want that jo
ASK the suspect to come into custody (put your hands on the car or whatever)
TELL the suspect to come into custody
MAKE the suspect to come into custody
Last part is resisting arrest. Apparently the guy had enough clouding his brain (drugs, alcohol, anger or stupid bravado). Suspects resisting arrest will do and say all kinds of things as an excuse. Officers generally try to not want to die (look for videos of suspects in handcuffs stealing weapons from cops) so they control the situation.
Hey if you've got some great ways avoiding the MAKE stage that'd be great. Please by all means provide that training to all police departments.
Now was this racism? Dunno, let the courts decide.
Is it murder? Let the courts decide.
OR we can go full stupid and riot. Personally I prefer peaceful protests if this was racially motivated.
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I am not deflecting...
I am merely pointing out an obvious issue that continues to get glossed over.
What that cop did is horrendous...he deserves whatever punishment he gets.
But we have a media and many people on the left who seem to ignore some other horrendous realities.
Crime is often NOT a race issue...it is an economic issue. And no one wants to acknowledge the fact that education is not highly valued in inner city neighborhoods, since their citizens do not demand higher standards of the educators. Don't say they have less money....since billions of State and Federal money is pumped into under served schools. Until the educational system improves, the black youth get a better education and better jobs, we will continue to have issues and it is NOT race....
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There is a race problem in America..but its with all races and a small percentage of people. That cop is an idiot and should be convicted of murder two
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@NPembrush .. great post.
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Npembrush....excellent post.
I don't understand why anyone would do anything to piss off a cop. If the officer tells me to stand on my head and chant .....that is what I will do. He has a gun, backup of the entire police force and I don't want him uncomfortable at any time. If he initiates an illegal search, I will say i don't give my permission, but if he does so anyway, we can sort it out later. In the heat of the moment is NOT when you need to assert your rights....
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Unfortunately racism exist everywhere but until us as people can come together for the people nothing is going to change. How is it back in like the 1900s and what not when government did exist the people which was us overthrew the government and got what we wanted but now we’re so scared of the government that we allow things like this to happen. No one deserves to be treated like that no matter what type of person you are we’re all human beings at the end of the day and bleed the same blood we need to spread more world love and really come together so we can diminish problems like these.
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Worldclass I dont give a fuck what you think of me.
The apparently was 1) involved with criminal behaviour 2) under the influence 3) resisting arrest...
I bet this guy was a regular problem but we dont know that.
Someone died.. not a good day.
I'm not making excuses for cops here. They gotta tough job out on the streets every day. The city/state trains and pays them to protect and serve law abiding citizens. Then once in awhile some low life POS makes work difficult. It doesnt matter what the skin color is white/black/brown it all sucks.
Did the right thing happen? NO
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My favorite race is the Indianapolis 500.
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Sometimes you just look at the computer screen... step back and say.... man some people are really twisted.
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I love righteous citizens on HX. Like you fucking morons aren't criminals.
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Did you see all those white people at the protest?
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Moron and Criminal?
You have a point.
(But if you wear a hat... nobody will see it) 😁
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Good shoot? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBUUx0jUKxc&has_verified=1&bpctr=1590620372
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The systematic and institutionalized RACISM odf the past leads to our fractured 2020 present. These issues don't just go away in 200 years...because they have NEVER gone away.
Y'all making excuses for these murdering cops need to go watch some facts. They killed a man who was not fighting back and didn't have reasonable use DEADLY force.
1. NETFLIX 13th: a solid documentary by Ava DuVerna on the EVOLUTION of police and mass incarceration of black men...hint: our 2020 police units evolve from slave catchers. Voting suppression of the black vote still exists today in 2020...White people in power are still trying to supress black voices (see the ongoing Florida felon vote issues this week- modern day jim crow) facts.
2. AMAZON has a GREAT documentary done by 2 white southern women whose family where slave owners called THE LONG SHADOW which lays out SPECIFICALLY. This ongoing disenfrancisement of the black community leads to 2020 issues like blacks being unable to get loans for housing after WWII and but poor white people getting loans leading to then having a mortgage that later funds poor white children ability to go to college. Its a domino that contributes to upward mobility or supression of former enslavement. facts
EVEN the HBO docu I was watching last night about the Atlanta child killings talked about how in the 80's the few black cops the city weren't allowed to arrest white people committing crimes..facts
Saying white people are acting white = acting entitled is not racist...Look at Amy Copper this week. A white woman using her voice to weaponize the NYC cops against a black man just because she didn't like being told to follow leash laws...She felt special and entitled to do as she wanted...That is most white people who try to police non-white people or acting like rules don't apply to them (face masks)
If you are white- how often had you had white people police you out in public? I am brown and have black friends- it happens all the time...
Did you know that white women when walking out in public always expect people to move for them? Very rarely an excuse me or sorry. I had a couple black friends point that out last year and since then I realized it was true and stopped moving for white women...Other brown women I knew shared their same experiences when I told them about it. So when I was with my white client in Vegas and mentioned this truth to him...while we were walking in the Venetian I showed him how white women would never move or say excuse me. These women would literally run into me because they expected me to move. He was shocked.
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I read this blog and laughed.
Some people saying blacks do more crime than whites lol
I wonder how many, lets say robbery attributed to black criminals would it take to add up to one Bennie Madoff.
His ponzi scheme robbed investors of $65 Billion dollars.
So would it be fair to say blacks do more crimes and whites are bigger criminals?
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