For all of you holier-than-thou religious nut jobs who are not getting it.
Imagine you were in the crowd and saw law enforcement apply lethal force to a person.
“But he’s a criminal!” You would say.
Imagine that the guardians of the community that were good people stood by and watched as something bad happened to a good person at the hands of other guardians.
Imagine, would you voice a protest? Speak up and take action? Walk unarmed at the potential of certain bodily harm to protect an innocent? Even if that individual was attempting to overturn social norms?
“Two thousand years ago Jesus ended the debate about which lives matter. He died for all of us!”
Our Lord and Savior died at the hands of law enforcement.
Never forget that.
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officers are being attacked...stabbed, shot at, killed and maimed...maybe a few close calls and seeing your friends get hurt and killed could set you off against people not following directions and pushing you around and fighting you. what to do?
lots of cameras and video around... I am sure we will get to see quite a bit of it and some will be in the courts.
even cuomo is having issues with it from one day to the next...not an easy thing--
New York's leader walked back criticisms of NYPD police officers for using force to restrain looters and rioters in recent days, instead saying the violence against officers is "intolerable."
"There is no tolerance for violence against a police officer, period," Gov. Andrew Cuomo said at a press conference Thursday. "They're trying to keep themselves safe because the police want to go home to their families."
DE BLASIO CALLS ON CUOMO TO APOLOGIZE TO NYPD AS PETTY FEUD CONTINUES DESPITE RIOTS
The remarks came a day after Cuomo slammed New York Mayor Bill de Blasio and the NYPD for how they've handled the ongoing violence, looting and rioting in the city in the wake of George Floyd's death. He called the city's management "disgraceful."
Gov. Cuomo's New York blame game
Interesting Facts: Minnesota has Democratic Governor, The Attorney General is Democrat Keith Ellison, in fact the first Muslim elected to congress. They have two Democratic Senators, one them Amy Klobucher was in the prosecutor office that filed charges against Officer Chavin back in 2006 ( although she didn't handle the case) Minneapolis has a Democratic Mayor and a new African American Police Chief. The congressional district where Mr Floyd was killed is represented by Illan Omar a Progressive Democrat.
Why weren't this issues of Police Procedure handled before this incident given the history of the Minneapolis Police Dept?
DudeL:
"The looters better hurry up come back out or the Trumps supporters won't be able to deflect the meaning of the rallies."
Right on, bears repeating.
LA Mayor Garcetti and police commissioner saying they are de-funding the LAPD by $150 million (and giving that to reform efforts)
AND
(HUGE) taking prosecution of cops away from the DA (because cops and DA have a wink-wink quid pro quo relationship), and now police misconduct will be prosecuted by an independent prosecutor whose only job is police oversight.
As in most things, LA will start a trend that will spread across the country.
Police funding is out of control as even tiny PDs buy military surplus weapons because they can.
@happyguy63 I'm neither Blue or Red on this issue. I'm stating that the Minneapolis Police Dept has a history of problems and after the 3rd civilian death at the hands of Police a top down review of polices should have been enacted and they had the people in place to perform these changes without a lawsuit.
I actually have to find myself agreeing with Crane and Jazz regarding overcharging.
I remember some of the commentary after the original Rodney King verdict was that the 4 police officers could have easily been convicted on lesser charges. I remember the case in Massachusetts of Louise Woodward the au pair charged with killing a child where the prosecution overcharged their case and the judge had to step in and overturn the verdict. I can think of several other cases where prosecutors got carried away for political reasons and they did not turn out well.
I hope the prosecutors in Minnesota are actually filing charges they can actually prove and not trying to grandstand by overcharging. It will be a huge mess if these cops all walk.
Yo. Floyd was a fucking criminal. One less in the world. What about the 77 year old black ex cop that got shot over a fucking TV. Where the fuck is Barack , sharpten and the media on that ? Not one word. Not to mention the 10 killed and 35 shot in Chicago 1 month ago?
very very sad about this guy and the many others hurt and killed in the wake of this thing
i hope those others get a chance to get some gofundme money support
how is this??
Lego says the suspension of promotional campaigns for its building-block sets of the White House and law enforcement officers and equipment, a move that flummoxed avid customers was meant to demonstrate respect amid nationwide protests over the death of a black man in police custody.
Blue state Minnesota going after blue city Minneapolis where the blue city council of 12 Democrats can't control the blue police union that funds their political campaigns
Blue Cuomo and blue de Blasio in a feud cause they're both inept and can't control the blue police union
Now, Garcetti thinks he's gonna defund the very same blue police union that funds his campaigns. Never gonna happen, the police union will just get another inept stooge, lol
It's blue on blue war and it's surprising it took this long for it to happen
Bottom line is that it turns out Democrats are just as greedy as Republicans.
"Believe me now or ask me later", it's all about the money with police unions and politicians, lol
Look what just happened with the Santa Ana city councilwoman....a WOMAN (too bad she wasn't black instead of Latina).recalled after the police union spent $500,000 of public mooney to get rid of her because she wouldn't approve a raise for cops.
About 19% of citizens voted in the recall, thats how much they give a shit in Santa Ana, worst run city in OC.
How the fuck did this go from the holier than thou’s blessing law enforcement and not holding them accountable to a conversation about the politicians?
If you did your homework and actually knew WTF you are talking about....LA is reducing its INCREASE in PD funding by $150m. They were going to go from $1.1B up to about $1.6B, but now that increase is being decreased. Still an enormous increase. And you characterize it like a defunding. Morons. Just like 90+% of journalists. Bunch of stupid stenographers. Incompetent spin doctors.
Regarding police oversight... You do know the DAs office is an elected official right? In cities like New York the Police commissioner is a politically appointed position. You have oversight on the city level by way of .... ELECTIONS!!!
You want to set up a committee for oversight.. Okay do that employ more part time politicians to oversee law enforcement. But give them the autonomy to be held only accountable to voters not a mayor or governor but the electorate. This really makes more sense than a mayor or governor appointing like minded individuals. I kind of thought we had this already but ya know city councils are just soooooo overwhelmed by ya know .... stuff.
Personally I got no problem cutting spending. But what's gonna happen is a NEW Bureaucracy will be born and HALLELUJAH the money will reign down from taxpayers like manna from heaven.
"How the fuck did this go from the holier than thou’s blessing law enforcement and not holding them accountable to a conversation about the politicians?"
You serious, Gloom guy?
Bible belters are responsible for the "unholy" alliance between LE and politicians?
Holier-than-thou types are empowering police abuse?
We wouldn't HAVE the racist issues with LE if the politicians held them accountable instead of protecting them.
Agree wunanddun.....political appointees are the cronies. Part of the machines...especially of the utterly corrupt cities like Chicago, NY, LA, Detroit, Baltimore, etc.....
Another good idea.....part time politicians. No more career cronies. Look at Ca with all the commissions and boards (like water and waste boards). All the old recycled crooks that got termed out but are utterly incompetent to earn a living by any other means other than a parasite on govt.
Ahhhhhh hell no GBD you cant cast aspersions on someone!!! You aren't qualified you dont have the right mindset... you must attend classes and volunteer at the right places register to vote in a party that is not Republican AND then vote for politicians that we approve of ... after 10 years of working in a job with union representation and writing a dissertation in support of Marxism then and only then can you be approved to call someone an Asshole. Otherwise you are just angry.
stumpy....how many times have we seen this....the DA's office caves to political pressure, overcharge the crime, the jury acquits because the DA cannot prove beyond a reasonable doubt and then everybody is pissed as hell......intent is a bitch to prove unless the accused has made some comments to others about wanting to get the person.....or the person purchases objects for the murder ahead of time. Otherwise, you cannot get in the head of the accused.
And LA wants to decrease funding for the police....I am sure the banned substance cartels are rubbing their hands in glee......
You fools that think that we are going in the right direction with Trump as President I really feel sorry for you. You can see that the bigots will never win in America, just look at the diversity of the protest. You guys that get on these blogs with your old or shill profiles to push your pro Trump bullshit just like to battle blog. America can not withstand another 4 years with this clown in the oval office. He has failed in the face of crisis and failed badly. The true test of a President is how he can bring the people together to overcome wars, injustices, plagues whatever we face as a nation.