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Locked. No further comments permitted.Candace Owens on george floyd
Jun 6 2020 09:25PM more by InsearchofStarfish
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she is looking pretty hot here

Candace Owens: "I DO NOT support George Floyd!" & Here's Why!



michael jordan needs to stick a portion of that 100m with someone like her





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Jun 6 2020 11:44PM     link to this

That is some AMAZING shit.

Goes to show how absolutely fucked up the mainstream media is to let the narrative run completely out of control.
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Jun 7 2020 12:13AM     link to this

The latest research on racial disparities in fatal officer-involved shootings suggest, using the imperfect data that we have, that no, cops don't seem to be shooting blacks disproportionately.

From a 2019 article from Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences:


"We report three main findings: 1) As the proportion of Black or Hispanic officers in a fatal officer-involved shootings FOIS increases, a person shot is more likely to be Black or Hispanic than White, a disparity explained by county demographics; 2) race-specific county-level violent crime strongly predicts the race of the civilian shot; and 3) although we find no overall evidence of anti-Black or anti-Hispanic disparities in fatal shootings, when focusing on different subtypes of shootings (e.g., unarmed shootings or “suicide by cop”), data are too uncertain to draw firm conclusions. We highlight the need to enforce federal policies that record both officer and civilian information in FOIS."





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Jun 7 2020 12:15AM     link to this

So the protests are about emotions and feelings and not facts, at least in the most crucial metric -- deaths.
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Jun 7 2020 01:02AM     link to this

^There were two responses, and the original authors responded well back to them. The correction did not change the final analysis of the paper -- the data doesn't show anti-black bias in police homicides by shooting. Sorry if that doesn't fit into your agendas.
InsearchofStarfish
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Jun 7 2020 06:02AM     link to this

would be good if a BRON could get behind smart people like this, but that would probably not happen after she called him "ignorant"...she was very clear on her word choice here

she also used the "low IQ" for maxine waters


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Jun 7 2020 06:47AM     link to this

There was a fairly in depth article in WSJ, citing a 2016 Harvard study, a University of Maryland study and a Michigan State study all with the same conclusion (I would link but none of you subscribe).
Here's the relevant part, anyway.

"How do you root out bad cops without changing the behavior of good cops?

That’s a question explored in a forthcoming academic paper on policing the police by Harvard economist Roland Fryer and co-author Tanaya Devi. Given the current nationwide protests and mob violence ignited by the death of George Floyd in Minneapolis, it’s a subject on the minds of many.

In 2016 Mr. Fryer released a study of racial differences in police use of deadly force. To the surprise of the author, as well as many in the media and on the left who take racist law enforcement as a given, he found no evidence of bias in police shootings. His conclusions have been echoed by researchers at the University of Maryland and Michigan State University, who in a paper released last year wrote: “We didn’t find evidence for anti-Black or anti-Hispanic disparity in police use of force across all shootings, and, if anything, found anti-White disparities when controlling for race-specific crime.”

Just the messenger here, please don't shoot me.
#ShillMonkeyLivesMatter
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Jun 7 2020 06:58AM     link to this

While it sounds as though these studies focused on shootings, the underlying theme is racism in policing, regardless of the form it took. More than likely, still appropriate.

If this is true, then it clearly shows the biased media reporting that is more interested in sensationalism to sell product than their civic duty to report the truth.

In other words, they're greedy and willing to see people die to make money.
Given that they're all corporations, why isn't this assumed by Progressives and treated as such?
Silly me
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Jun 7 2020 07:40AM     link to this

To me this is yet more proof of how corrupted and biased the media is.
InsearchofStarfish
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Jun 7 2020 09:36AM     link to this

think I might actually start jerking off to her videos...always looking for new fodder in this regard




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Jun 7 2020 09:42AM     link to this

Never allow the truth to get in the way of advancing one’s agenda.
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Jun 7 2020 10:09AM     link to this

And now go fund me is stopped her campaign to raise money just for censorship of conservative causes.
InsearchofStarfish
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Jun 7 2020 10:18AM     link to this

GoFundMe suspended pro-Trump personality Candace Owens from its fundraising platform on Sunday, after Owens raised more than $200,000 on the site for an Alabama cafe whose owner called George Floyd a “thug.”


i am digging the whole gofundme thing in general though...see some pretty cool stuff being done with lots of 10-30 dollar donations....people, in general, like to give and be helpful...and giving directly is very powerful.

fraud part of it sucks when it's present

now we have another twitter on our hands, they better give that 200k to that restaurant...can imagine the lawsuit that is brewing here

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Jun 7 2020 11:43AM     link to this

"Fact Check !! The bitch is lying. Go Fund me suspended her ass. LOL"

Looks like she touched a nerve bro...

Just go about your day rolling coin a stabbing beaver.
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Jun 7 2020 11:43AM     link to this

Candace Owens........ bitch better have my money lol
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Jun 7 2020 11:50AM     link to this

It's also yet more proof showing that social media has a liberal bias by choosing to "fact check" conservative views and delete accounts like this.
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Jun 7 2020 12:15PM     link to this

@worldclass... Throwing a dead brother under the bus to make a trash post against a black woman. GENIUS!!
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Jun 7 2020 12:24PM     link to this

worldclass...

Did you actually listen to Candace Owen's entire blog?

I highly doubt it.

She abhorred the death of George Floyd and said clearly what the cop did was wrong and should be punished.

You obviously didn't understand her message. She outlined Floyd's past criminal record and was merely saying he should not be held up as a martyr for the entire black community to idolize.

You obviously didn't actually listen to her words and what she was saying, but likewise, you never actually read what anyone here says either. You have your agenda and won't let facts and data stand in the way of your narrative. You typically revert to name calling.....

Owens is a bright and articulate young black woman who is looking at the big picture that most do not want to look at. She is saying things that black mayors, black leaders and Democratic politicians are afraid to say.....the REAL issues.....
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Jun 7 2020 12:41PM     link to this

more than welcome to shoot different stats at us to prove your points and the lies?

be real specific though
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Jun 7 2020 01:20PM     link to this

Jazzy the democrats/lefty NEVER EVER read or listen to anything they don't like.. they don't like facts.

Only (wrong) raw emotions.

I know I used to be one of them.

And then I started to really listen..
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Jun 7 2020 01:40PM     link to this

The problem we face in this country is people have gone to their corners and refuse to listen to the other side.

Quite honestly, this shouldn't be about 'sides'....but what is truly best for the people.

There are systemic problems in our country....but focusing solely on police violence is missing the point. Unfortunately, cities allocate police resources to where the crime is occurring and police are dispatched to deal with 911 calls. And all FBI and other agency statistics show where those crimes and 911 calls occur.

So if the focus is on certain neighborhoods, there will be more interactions between those neighborhoods and the police. If there is NO crime in an area, I doubt there will be police interaction problems, since the dispatch will not direct manpower into that area.

So you must ask a simple question, why is crime occurring in certain neighborhoods? That is what needs focus.....dig deeper to the root causation.

But no one is willing to look at those root causes. Although the Candace Owen's of the black community get it far better than politicians, media, Al Sharpton, etc.

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Jun 7 2020 01:41PM     link to this

those are the best stories...the ones that started opening their eyes to the lies

I was pretty much out of all this stuff until the before the election...starting paying attn to the media and Hollywood a bit more with this crap.

still bothered by 40million dollars being sent from Hollywood to Georgian congressional seat, but that is where we are now. soros, bloomberbg...buying politicians and DA's
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Jun 7 2020 02:08PM     link to this

Candace's overall point was very accurate.

Look at the Michael Brown case in Ferguson. He was on video stealing from convenience store and strong arming the owner prior to the confrontation with the police. The Hands Up Don't Shoot narrative never happened. The you see all of the photos of Michael Brown with a Cap and Gown as if he was a scholarly student on the way to college.

David Dorn was a Black police officer that dedicated his life to law enforcement and building his community. He was 77 years old and still had the courage to help protect the business of a friend. He was murdered by most likely one of the Black men on the video with guns.

The murders of George Floyd and David Dorn were tragedies and should not have happened.

But whose life prior to those incidents are worthy of uplifting?

Whose name will be forgotten?
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Jun 7 2020 02:15PM     link to this

The problem with her statement is that she says (and I quote her) "I find it despicable to be is that everyone is pretending that this man lived a heroic lifestyle..." and that the media portray him as a martyr.
Now, I tried so hard to search for clips where the media says George is a hero and martyr, but I couldn't find any. If her claim that EVERYONE is pretending that he was a hero was true, there would be tons of news reports stating just that.
I think she is the one making those assumptions in her mind.
George isn't a hero nor martyr, he was just a victim of police brutality. The reason it caused outraged is the way he was executed, and it was the last straw after a string of unjustified events in the past weeks: Breoanna Taylor, Ahmaud Arbery, Amy Cooper, and George Floyd; all of them in a relative short period of time. Floyd's death was the spark. It wasn't his lifestyle that made people outraged; it was the unconscious bias (or racism) that yet exists in some, and the black community wants an end to that, and most importantly: police brutality.
Regarding George'd criminal past, he was already punished for his past crimes. I don't see the point of bringing his past to justice his death. The cop didn't decide to execute the guy because he previously saw his criminal record. No. Police brutality doesn't discriminate race. Remember Tony Timpa? same restraining technique, same lack of empathy from the cops, and the guy was high too. Now, it's known that police used to target blacks and latinos, so of course the statistics are going to show high numbers on drugs possession for those groups (not to mention the cases where police plants evidence), it doesn't mean whites don't consume drugs at the same rate than blacks or latinos. So, I wouldn't really rely on the numbers she provides necessarily.
It's not only one issue that people are protesting for. It's a number of systematic issues.
George Floyd was just the spark.
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Jun 7 2020 02:23PM     link to this

AA's bring it on themselves. George Floyd was a career criminal. If he hadn't been using counterfeit money, the cops wouldn't have come after him. Nevertheless, what happened to him was a tragedy and those responsible have been charged.

AA's commit way more violent crime than any other ethnicity, suck on the government teat more than any, and have received preferential treatment for 2+ generations of so-called "affirmative action."

The latest of many rounds of looting and burning is not going to make people love them. It's time for them to stop blaming everyone else for their problems.

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Jun 7 2020 02:26PM     link to this

"Now, it's known that police used to target blacks and latinos, so of course the statistics are going to show high numbers on drugs possession for those groups (not to mention the cases where police plants evidence), it doesn't mean whites don't consume drugs at the same rate than blacks or latinos."

Is it? I thought police departments target areas where criminal activity is reported.

I know there are bad cops, I dont think it's a few. But I dont think they wake up everyday looking to falsely arrest and many non whites as they can. But let's keep assigning our own preconceived notions on each other ... we will get real far like that.
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Jun 7 2020 02:40PM     link to this

“ It's time for them to stop blaming everyone else for their problems. “

Excuse me, are we on the same planet? Are they referring to their economic situations in their protests, or to actual dead by cops? Cops caught on camera but not punished, and how ingrained this unspoken malice is embedded in th culture of some law enforcement organizations.

Dead by cops is the right answer.

The core argument has been the systematic biased of the application of force, and the attempts to cover up said violent overreach. Now you will hear different interpretations of cause and effects.

There’s a body count and an active attempt by law enforcement to “excuse” bad behavior. A common and provable argument has been if the victim was white, would the results be different.

Yes, they would.
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Jun 7 2020 02:45PM     link to this

And back on to Candace, she is making the mistake of other people elevating Me. Floyd to sainthood.
He is not, and never has been. He may have been a decent man who had run ins, but not a career criminal.

And by no means did he deserve to go out like that at the hands of law enforcement.
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Jun 7 2020 02:46PM     link to this

Anyone who supports any thing Candice Owens says believes in white supremacy ,and or is a white supremacist. No exceptions
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Jun 7 2020 02:53PM     link to this

@wunanddun

I'm talking about drug possession.

You're right, they don't wake up everyday looking to falsely arrest innocents, just like us don't wake up everyday looking to argue / fight / road-rage with someone, but we are humans, our behavior can change from moment to moment. Off topic, but remember Zidane's headbutt at the World Cup's final? He didn't wake up that day looking to headbutt someone neither.

Before everyone had a camera, it was hard to define "criminal activity" because it depended on who reported it... just like Amy Cooper. Imagine if there was no cameras. I can go on on several cases, but I think you got the idea.
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Jun 7 2020 02:55PM     link to this

Which “God”?

White supremacist God? Or the God preached by Jesus the Carpenter?

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Jun 7 2020 02:57PM     link to this

Didnt deserve to die for sure...

"Not a career criminal?".. been to jail "at least 5 times"

I guess that puts him in the minor leagues then.

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Jun 7 2020 03:07PM     link to this

I have lots of shit to say about conrona virus and stocks the job market lol, but she is pretty spot on with this BLM bullsiht. I couldn't agree more with her viewpoint.

While it's wrong to kill a dude like that, couldn't they have a better role model though? It would be even moar impactful if an upstanding black doctor or lawyer died at the hands of angry corrupt cops. Or would it be less impactful since 90 percent of the community wouldn't be able to relate to those Uncle Toms?
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Jun 7 2020 03:08PM     link to this

She attended the University of Rhode Island and took executive training courses at the NYU Stern School of Business.

Candace views it as her life's mission to help minority groups escape the left's victim narrative.
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Jun 7 2020 03:14PM     link to this

@manco... The answer is that in all those cases (to the best of my knowledge esp GA) the people killing were acting in an unlawful manner. Will be tried and convicted (the cases I'm most well acquainted w are GA and MN so dont know about the other one). I can tell you that it's my firm belief that when these guys in those 2 cases get what they deserve, you will get better policing. I dont know anyone that doesn't want that.

Will you get justice for every wrong? I dont think that's possible under the best of conditions and reforms. People have been getting away w/ shit for a long time. But as society evolves THINGS DO GET BETTER. And have.
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