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Even at polling stations there's a risk; I don't think there's really any safe means. I'm not opposed to keeping polling stations open. I think the vote is going to be so polarized that voter turn out at stations will be high this year virus or not.
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If an ID is required, that at least prevents dead people and unregistered people from voting.
Also, there is scrutiny by polling observers that are assigned by both parties to assure proper procedures are followed. If you have ever worked at a polling location, you would know that there are some pretty strict guidelines.
Can fraud still occur, yes. But we need to do whatever we can to reduce it to an absolute minimum.
There are cases where people actually voted in two states, using 'absentee or mail in ballots' .....
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That's Right I forgot about the driver's license. Still what additional measures can be taken to ensure mail in is more secure? Assuming mail in is the only option.
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Oregon has been doing mail in for years.
However, they have a very small number of voters and actually do a signature verification using the voter registration card a person filled out when registering and compare it to the signature on the ballot.
Needless to say, if California did that for every voter in CA, we wouldn't know our results for months.....
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Total mail in is just ripe for fraud......
Do a search on ballot harvesting and you will see all the possibilities for such fraud.
A mail person could actually take all of the ballots that are destined to be put in the mailboxes of the recipients and vote hundreds of times.
Anyone else could go to cluster mailboxes and grab dozens of ballots.
Anyone could knock on a door and offer money for the person's ballot.
And the list goes on and on.....
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That's right...people are all honest and have integrity and would NEVER do anything underhanded....
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So if you are saying theres ramped voter fraud was there voter fraud in the 2016 Presidential election when you're guy Trump won?
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..........where ids required to make sure no dead Republicans voted in that election?
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^^"GRANITE"^^
Frasier Cranium
Nowhere else do so many typed words say so little.
Just like Fraiser Crane for the old TV episodes of Cheers lol
(Types so many words that say so very little)
This conehead is exactly like Frasier Crane from the old Cheers episodes.
So only Dems commit voter fraud
Republicans don't commit voter fraud to stay in power.
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If someone is bent on committing vote fraud by using a deceased person's name, what use is a Driver's License as ID? Fake driver's licenses are out there, aren't they? So, if you want to go to the polls as someone else, and needed ID, just show the fake ID in the dead guy's name, right? Vote fraud mission accomplished.
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The central part of this issue isn't voter fraud its that Republican feel they lose if turn out is high.
Thats why they do everything they can to suppress the vote.
Last min changes of polling places, gerrymandering, huge last minute purging of vote rollers, few staff members in certain polling places to insure huge lines to vote rolls on and on and on. GOP does this shit every year but now they want to talk about voter fraud........and this clown GRANITE above says "its a Dem. thing." What a complete moron lol
Why isn't voting done over a weekend? Why is it some states make so hard to vote?
Answer: to suppress the vote.
When the people speak loudly you lose everytime!
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Again you try to focus on voter fraud when the whole reason Republicans are concerned is because they know when turn out is high they lose.
If there is voter fraud its not a Dem thing it will go both ways.
You're saying they will be no voter fraud in place that GOP control.
You're a conehead dude.......just stop lol
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^^GRANITE^^
Fraiser Cranium
There you go again, going way the fuck off in left field.
What does HX have to do with national elections. NOTHING!!!
Now make sure you have the last word like you always do........go ahead lol
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The Republicans are the ones pushing for voter ID. No one has convinced me that vast numbers of voter aged people who are eligible to vote do not have a government ID. If it is a money thing, I would be in favor of giving poor people free identification cards, assuming they qualify for them.
But the statistics that are always used about numbers of people without ID compare voter roles and driver's license lists.....a total bullshit comparison. People have passports, military ID, student ID and other allowable identification.
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And it doesn't have to be 'rampant'.....
Using the 'rampant' argument, then we are all being stupid for dealing with George Floyd, because it isn't 'rampant'. A few instances don't count, right????????
If one vote if fraudulent, that is enough to want to make sure all votes are legitimate.
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"Last min changes of polling places, gerrymandering, huge last minute purging of voter rollers, few staff members in certain polling places to insure huge lines to vote."
All types of bullshit Republicans pull in every election. To require ID's, voter fraud claims.....Anything you can think of to suppress the vote.
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.......Maybe we should give up some DNA and have that checked before we vote huh.
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Btw....if a felon pays his/her debt to society and comes out of jail why shouldn't they be able to vote?
Are they any less American?
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^^GRANITE"^
Frasier Cranium
"Fucking stupid, piece of shit, stubborn, arrogant hypocrite.Fucking stupid, piece of shit, stubborn, arrogant hypocrite"
Im rubber you're glue whatever you say bounce off on me and stick on you
Dude I know it was killing you not to be able to have the last word.
You were pacing around the halfway house where you live waiting for some else to post so your post wasn't after mine lol
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........come to think of it why are people in jail stripped of their right to vote.
There are still American citizens. Where did this law come from in the first place.
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"Anything you can think of to suppress the vote."
Yes, we want to suppress the duplicate votes, those cast by non-citizens, those cast by dead people.
Remember, the Democrats are the party of Mayor Daly.....vote early and vote often....,
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Of course, have any of you read that linked article and you are still good with voting by mail?????
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Oh like 4years ago LOL!!!
Only few more months of this stupid ass
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I've voted by mail for years
If the process were vetted properly and these assholes would take the dead names of the lists and require valid State ID, not sure i see the problem
Seems to me that BOTH parties have played the Gerrymander game equally
Seems also that they do their voter fraud differently
If Dems are harvesting more, if it's still a legit voter doing the voting, then maybe the Reps should play the game too?
just my 2 cents which is likely worth about 2 pesos
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"Yes, we want to suppress the duplicate votes, those cast by non-citizens, those cast by dead people."
No its not for duplicates.
What about the other act of faggotry the GOP does "Last min changes of polling places, gerrymandering, huge ((last minute)) purging of voter rollers, few staff members in certain polling places to insure huge lines to vote."
The more I think about it why in the fuck are people in jail not allowed to vote. They doen't give up their citizenship when they are jailed so why should they not be allowed to vote. If prisoners voted that would be millions of new voters and they would affect mayors, measures, congress, senators and the Presidential race.
Why are they not allowed to vote. When did that start and WHY?
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^ There's this new thing called "The Googley".
You should try it but then it would require you to know how to read and understand stuff that's hard for your tiny brain to process.
Here you go, Doofy!
Enjoy!
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Not letting prisoners vote is another act of voter suppression.
A prisoner in jail is still an American citizen.
Unless they renounce their citizenship they should be allowed to vote.
You can believed they would be a loyal voting block while incarcerated.
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GotballsOnURChin any fool like you can google it as you proved.
Its wrong and should be changed
Proponents have argued that persons who commit felonies have broken the social contract, and have thereby given up their right to participate in a civil society. Some argue that felons have shown poor judgment, and that they should therefore not have a voice in the political decision-making process.
Opponents have argued that such disfranchisement restricts and conflicts with principles of universal suffrage. It can affect civic and communal participation in general. Opponents argue that felony disenfranchisement can create political incentives to skew criminal law in favor of disproportionately targeting groups who are political opponents of those who hold power.
The social contract argument and total and complete bullshit. If you are still an American citizen you should still be allowed to vote. Voting should always be a right not a privilege.
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.....the only reason someone voting rights should be restricted is if they committed a crime that had something like voter fraud or an act of treason or anything that would make them get stripped of their citizenship. Other that that all American citizens should be afforded the right to vote!
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^ You fucking idiot
Read the link, it says it right there
"DISENFRANCHISEMENT"
I realize you don't know what that means but the Wiki basically supports your position
What a fucking moron
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Personally, if someone has paid their price to society and got out.
I say, let them vote. It shouldn't doom them to second class citizenship forever
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Dude I don't read your bullshit you're a ghost lol
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I guess you didn't respond 4 times after reading and responding to what i posted
What is it like living in your head, some kind of fucked up alternate reality where you just make shit up?
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I even agreed with your position, for the most part, you mental midget
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When incarcerated, prisoners are stripped of their rights as citizens. That is why they cannot vote.
Some states do allow voting once sentence is served.
Back to voting fraud.....people can be registered in multiple counties and there is no check or balance. A person can vote in person in any of the counties they are registered and the can also vote by mail....California has no method currently to monitor the multiple registrations.
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Can you see a local election and having all of the prisoners voting in a block to be able to swing an election......could definitely happen given the populations of the larger prisons in this country.
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It depends how many prisons and the population and where they are located.
There some areas where the prison population in that county could affect elections.....yes
The rational for not letting prisoners vote is thin but the fact that a vote from people that can vote would have to be done to give them that right back its hard to see that right being restore. It could however get restored locally or in certain counties and certain states and if it was promoted by someone like Black Lives Matter and could get passed in places across the nation.
Again GoBallsDeepInURASSHOLE
I see you that have posted but I don't read the shill shit you post.
Your like an annoying nat and are a blog troll.
Your job seems to be trying to bust blogs and get a rise out of people other than try to have a half way intelligent dialog.
You're a corny fuck and need to get a job dude.
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The 14th Amendment is really the only place where voting is addressed. It wasn't enumerated like other 'rights' in the Constitution.
No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
The key phrase here is without due process of law......which is the criminal trial process, thus allowing a citizen to be stripped of certain rights.
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Dude is right. Not letting criminals vote is voter suppression. If you suppress the criminal vote... Republicans would win every time.
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Turn out is the whole key!
If Biden put a credible woman of color on his ticket and these protest increase turn out in the fall with young people Trump and Republicans could be in huge trouble.
Im well aware beating an incumbent President is a hard thing to do. With Trump their are many more people that will vote for him than will admit it. Joe Biden is a good candidate not a great candidate but he does represent some stability in government, where Trump represents pure chaos.
With 120,000 people dead from the virus. the economy having an up hill climb and all the constant bullshit and lies Trump comes with daily. He will have to pump and the bigoted shit that really resinates with his base.DACA defeated for now, his wall not that important. He is going have to find some issue that unites the right wing. In the time George Floyd and the protests Trump usual bigot shit is going to backfire and really inspire the left to come out and vote this year.
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Doofy said - "Now make sure you have the last word like you always do........go ahead lol"
And the whole of humaniplex shit their pants laughing at the projection of the most prolific blog hog accusing someone of his stupid insecure 3rd grade level temper tantrum antic.
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^^GRANITE"^
Frasier Cranium
Dude I thought you took a rest.
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Bam
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