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Jun 19 2020 05:48PM more by Night-Rider
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Why has this happened to us? The EU is beating the virus. We can't.
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Night-Rider
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Jun 19 2020 05:59PM     link to this

I shouldn't say we can't. We just haven't, and that's frustrating.
FrostyBunny6969
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Jun 19 2020 07:41PM     link to this

You do Realize that they’re counting every Death as Covid right now and pretty much anything that comes into the hospital as Covid the numbers are trumped up In the hospital to treat a patient for Covid and they have insurance they make 12,000 if they put that person on a respirator they make 39,000 do you think these hospitals are going to not make that money
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Jun 19 2020 08:24PM     link to this

Haven't really been keeping up with it, but isn't most of Europe still requiring serious social distancing and face masks?
I know that when I've got to go to stores there are quite a few people that aren't wearing masks or practicing social distancing. So that could be one of the reasons that the U.S. is lagging a bit behind.

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Night-Rider
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Jun 19 2020 08:31PM     link to this

"You do Realize that they’re counting every Death as Covid right now and pretty much anything that comes into the hospital as Covid the numbers are trumped up In the hospital to treat a patient for Covid and they have insurance they make 12,000 if they put that person on a respirator they make 39,000 do you think these hospitals are going to not make that money"

Sounds like another untrue conspiracy theory. Maybe people believing more in conspiracy theories than in science is why the discrepancy exists?
Night-Rider
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Jun 19 2020 08:32PM     link to this

As a Jew, I find your last post highly offensive, crane_op.
Night-Rider
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Jun 19 2020 08:38PM     link to this

Politics is beating out science, and I don't understand why.
Night-Rider
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Jun 19 2020 09:07PM     link to this

Never said they were.
GoBallsDeep
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Jun 19 2020 09:42PM     link to this

OP, why would you ask this question of people on this site?
Do you really expect an scietific answer?
Or, is it just your penchant for ocassional grandstanding and virtue signalling?

Please explain how this post from crane.op offends you as a Jew?
It sounds as though he' paying her a compliment.

"FrostyBunny6969 has a brain and can think for herself"

Please explain yourself, snowflake.
GoBallsDeep
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Jun 19 2020 09:43PM     link to this

Is it the video, I haven't watched it yet?
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Jun 19 2020 09:44PM     link to this

Output depends on input.

Show me the quantitative testing graph.
Night-Rider
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Jun 19 2020 09:53PM     link to this

He had a post that was taken down.
GoBallsDeep
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Jun 19 2020 09:55PM     link to this

Just watched the video, nothing on there about Jews
Just people going to the Tulsa rally
I really don't understand why someone would go to that
But I'm don't see why you'd be offended
I'm just trying to understand your thinking

GoBallsDeep
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Jun 19 2020 09:56PM     link to this

Ahhh, I missed it then.
Sorry, carry on.
GoBallsDeep
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Jun 19 2020 10:05PM     link to this

I'll give you a hint though.
Covid is old news and nobody cares that much anymore
We now know that the scientists got so much wrong that nobody really believes them anymore
Then Faucci admitted to lying about masks, in order to make sure healthcare workers had access
Rather than admitting they fucked up, they've kept the charade going

Then you have Progressives using Covid to kill the economy so Trump will lose.
I don't give a shit much if Trump wins or loses but, in the meantime, these folks have trashed us all.
And, you're part of it.

Governor Hair announced masks again and people I see are flipping him the bird.
So, there you go.
Night-Rider
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Jun 19 2020 10:21PM     link to this

Total tests (Source worldometers.info)

USA. 27,337,385

TOTAL EU 26,345,649

Germany 5,025,696
Italy 4,889,103
Spain 4,826,516
France 1,384,633
Poland 1,297,676
Belgium 1,087,369
Portugal 1,047,109
Denmark 876,344
Romania 608,771
Austria 552,130
Netherlands 517,317
Czechia 513,979
Switzerland 493,843
Ireland 396,584
Lithuania 386,194
Sweden 385,659
Norway 302,659
Greece 274,711
Hungary 249,391
Finland 224,400
Slovakia 200,373
Luxembourg 138,497
Latvia 134,881
Bulgaria 114,854
Estonia 101,748
Slovenia 91,421
Malta 86,676
Croatia 71,814
Iceland 65,101


Night-Rider
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Jun 19 2020 10:25PM     link to this

I used to think the differences we have seen between states had a lot to do with the way that social contacts are distributed in different countries.

But this wouldn't explain the big discrepancy we've seen in the opening graph between the EU and US

I think EU has taken this much more seriously. Lockdowns, social distancing, and masks.

Politics and beliefs have won over science and facts.
Night-Rider
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Jun 19 2020 10:26PM     link to this

*in different states.
frank.e.machine
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Jun 19 2020 11:38PM     link to this

it's all misplaced male anxiety.
I was surfing Newport the other day and some old dude i gave me stink eye because I had a mask on to use the public restroom. Screw that old wanker. He don't know me.
Maybe I have a situation. Maybe I have the Covid.
I did my business without touching a single surface.

I wouldn't let an old goon like that near my table saw or welding equipment without wearing proper PPE.
He'd get 1 warning and then I'd go all Trump on his ass and fire him.
I've done it more than once.
Spoiled little dweebs that get all worked up over something as easy as proper PPE get a pink slip.

It's not about liberty. It's about your capacity to come correct.
We clearly have a situation and these liberty-tards can't seem to come correct.

I respectfully SMH




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Jun 19 2020 11:54PM     link to this

"is it just your penchant for ocassional grandstanding and virtue signalling?" Isn't this what you do?

"Covid is old news and nobody cares that much anymore" Speak for yourself buddy, there's no cure yet.

I found Crane_OP's steamroller picture to be hilarious. If it was somehow offensive to anyone who is Jewish, my laughter is not towards anyone of the Jewish community, I would gladly punch someone in the face who expresses hostility or discrimination toward Jewish people.
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Jun 19 2020 11:59PM     link to this

@ FB. Seems to me that the Hospitals are committing Insurance Fraud ?
Night-Rider
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Jun 20 2020 12:03AM     link to this

Crane-op had a picture of the front gate of Auschwitz up, with a slogan that equates belief in the science of COVID-19 to belief that the Nazis would do right by the Jews.

I found that very offensive.
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Jun 20 2020 12:10AM     link to this

I didn't see it. If he really posted that picture then fuck his bitch ass.
Night-Rider
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Jun 20 2020 12:12AM     link to this

It was something similar to that.
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Jun 20 2020 12:20AM     link to this

Why? Because Americans are rebellious, entitled assholes.

Fuck everyone... since I have freedom... I choose to Use it to fuck over my family, friends neighbors, co-workers and complete strangers I may come in contact with.
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Jun 20 2020 12:43AM     link to this

"you people who believe the chinavirus is a real threat are being led straight to slaughter. Put your mask on, get your forced vaccine, give up your guns, and go in the gas chamber."

More than a hundred thousand Americans have died from the Coronavirus, yet that's not an accurate figure, because there are many others who died and were not tested. Nobody is forcing you to get a vaccine, there hasn't even been a vaccine created to protect against the Coronavirus.

The virus has nothing to do with guns and gas chambers. Please inform yourself before spouting ignorant nonsense.
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Jun 20 2020 05:59AM     link to this

"is it just your penchant for ocassional grandstanding and virtue signalling?" Isn't this what you do?

Corndog, you really don't know the difference, do you?
OP likes to start blogs about CV19 showing how smart and caring he is, not me.
You like being clever and sly but dont actually post anything of substance.
At least, NR brings some science to the table, you bring nothing but rhetoric.


"Covid is old news and nobody cares that much anymore" Speak for yourself buddy, there's no cure yet.

NR asked for an opinion, I gave him one.
No, i didn't take a poll and no, I don't speak for everybody.
But, look around you, its quite different than it was just 2 months ago.
More people are ignoring the dire warnings
More people know it's bullshit and are willing to make an adult decision

That's what's so great about America, you get to wear your mask any time you like.
In fact, I encourage you to do so.

As to the Jewish question, I didn't see the meme....but,
I've been to the Dachau work camp (different than an extermination camp)
There is no more reason to use Nazi memes on the conservative side than there is for liberals to equate anybody with Hitler.

Both sides should just stop.


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Jun 20 2020 08:07AM     link to this

"That's what's so great about America, you get to wear your mask any time you like.
In fact, I encourage you to do so"

Don't you have a conscience at all? What if you had been infected without knowing it, and you are not responsible if people you infected turned out to be dead as a result?

If you think really that mandatory wearing masks is a communist idea, you don't have any conscience.

Trump and Pence not wearing masks in public are really bad examples because it encourages people who think the virus is a public lie would spread virus more in the US.
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Jun 20 2020 08:32AM     link to this

And 1/3 or more of the death is from nursing homes.

This virus is really dangerous, it enters each cell via ACE2 receptor that is present in lungs, arteries, heart, and intestines.

That is why people are dying from not just lung disease, but the organ failure from the above.

It has a component of "flu" that affects respiratory systems, but it is actually worse than that.

Be aware and careful, and don't trust Trump political agenda.



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Jun 20 2020 08:34AM     link to this

Organ failure?

That explains a lot.

When were you infected?
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Jun 20 2020 08:42AM     link to this

"When were you infected?"

No I have never been infected as far as I know, but I am not 100% sure, because I never tested myself (at least no symptoms that I should be aware of).

Here is a info about ACE2 receptor and new coronavirus if you are interested in.
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Jun 20 2020 09:08AM     link to this

"And 1/3 or more of the death is from nursing homes. "

You can thank Cuomo, deBlasio, other Gov's in PA, NJ, NH for that result.

Wasn't Trump... you gonna keeping trying to revise history here?
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Jun 20 2020 09:16AM     link to this

@jackrabbit33

1/3 of nursing home death is a globally recognized, not just in the US
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Jun 20 2020 09:26AM     link to this

As I said earlier in a different blog, Cuomo is responsible for not locking down NY state earlier, but any president has a unique ability to force each state to follow federal guidelines if he wanted it, and I believe he could have locked down all the states at the same time.

Trump did almost nothing to help each state, let each governor to handle it. That is my point.
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Jun 20 2020 10:58AM     link to this

'Trump did almost nothing to help each state, let each governor to handle it. That is my point.'

You're kidding right?
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Jun 20 2020 11:51AM     link to this

@skitter7

Actually I was more referring to earlier stage of this pandemic and what Trump admin was trying to ignore the threat.

I posted my blog and it was deleted for unknown reasons. If you want me to, I could post it again, if you are really interested in it.
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Jun 20 2020 03:07PM     link to this

I have little or no trust in the Covid-19 numbers. Too many reasons for doctors and hospitals to count them (economic incentive).

There are not enough autopsies to know if the numbers are being inflated.
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Jun 20 2020 03:09PM     link to this

What States needed help other than maybe New York, which was a self-inflicted mess?

No state overpopulated its hospital beds. Neither New York nor California really even used the hospital ships.

If a state lacked PPE, that is on them, and the individual hospitals in the state.

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Jun 20 2020 03:10PM     link to this

The Federal government doesn't need to get involved if the state can handle their own stuff. In fact, the Federal government should have little to do with medical treatment other than we are now dealing with Medicare. But anything else is on the State.
Night-Rider
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Jun 20 2020 03:35PM     link to this

"I have little or no trust in the Covid-19 numbers. Too many reasons for doctors and hospitals to count them (economic incentive)."

Sources you give deal with death numbers. My graph in the beginning shows new cases.
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Jun 20 2020 03:38PM     link to this

"I have little or no trust in the Covid-19 numbers. Too many reasons for doctors and hospitals to count them (economic incentive)"

I am not 100% sure but Johns Hopkins Univ web data is based on the reports from each local government for the coronavirus death for those who "officially" tested positive.

So right now US death is about 119,551, but actually it may be higher than that, due to lack of testing (thanks to Trump lack of care) in earlier days of this pandemic.

Now University of Washington predicts it would be about 200,000 by October 1st this year.

It is going to be difficult to fight with the virus because of mix of regular flu and new corona, and we don't know which we have, unless we are vaccinated for both.

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Night-Rider
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Jun 20 2020 03:39PM     link to this

"The Federal government doesn't need to get involved if the state can handle their own stuff. In fact, the Federal government should have little to do with medical treatment other than we are now dealing with Medicare. But anything else is on the State."

Promote the general welfare? Written right in the preamble of the Constitution.
Night-Rider
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Jun 20 2020 03:43PM     link to this

Massive spike in new cases in OC today. 413. Highest before that was 297.
No spike in testing.

People might not care now, but I predict they will care eventually.
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Jun 20 2020 03:51PM     link to this

Night Rider, I totally share with your concern.

I put an blog yesterday based on an excellent Rolling Stone article "The Four Men Responsible for America's Covid-19 test disaster" , but it was deleted for unknown reason, so I placed the link here for everybody to read it without my comment.

Please read it and judge it for yourself.
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Jun 20 2020 03:54PM     link to this

Trump rally sent out a text to have more people come because its not filled

From seeing the news the majority of the fools there are ((not)) wearing masks

So now I guess wearing a mask is a political thing.
Dems want to wear mask to protect themselves from dying.
GOP thinks all 120,000 dead and 2.5mil cases is all fake news
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