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Atticus_Finch
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Locked. No further comments permitted.A different take on blm from Black Americans Pt. 3
Jul 7 2020 08:18AM more by Atticus_Finch
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@ GE

'You keep taking about these successful black people you know'

Where did I mention my friends?
Maybe you should re-read the post, it obviously refers to the video.

But, seriously, tell me what it is about the video that chaps your hide?

What was said in it that was wrong?

The people in the video have obviously looked into blm and don't like what they see either because it goes against their principles/morals/values or because blm goes against what they're trying to accomplish and think blm will make it harder for them to accomplish those things.
Have you taken a deep dive into blm's mission statement etc.? Do you agree with it?

'when in so many other blogs many successful black people told you otherwise'

Yes I read what the guy said but does that really matter? It's his, and your, OPINION, I just happen to disagree with them. I honestly don't think he/she/they actually looked into blm but instead have just jumped on the bandwagon maybe 'cause that's what's expected.

Society evolves, too slowly but it does evolve. I've met a lot of Black entrepreneurs, business people and Black engineers. If racism was so rampant for the last 15-20 years how did they get so successful if they were constantly being blocked and/or held down?

Could the country do better? Absolutely. But minority communities, including my own, have to do most of the heavy lifting, it can't be done for them.
Blaming others and pointing fingers at one segment of the population and saying 'they're the reason I'm in the situation I'm in!' is counter productive. At some point they have to take an honest look at themselves and be open to the idea that maybe, just maybe it's the way they've been approaching things and that isn't working and be willing to change that approach.
It's hard as hell but once you do it things tend to get better.


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Jul 7 2020 08:48AM     link to this

in the past three years on here...the libs can't seem to get past one level msnbc/cnn talking points, followed by a hit and run comment of trump's a racist...so there


let's have some BLM followers locally here give the real scoop of why they are following and donating to them?

seems easy enough...just lay it out.
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Jul 7 2020 09:10AM     link to this

There are a variety of different groups and organizations operating under the banner of Black Lives Matter - there is also the larger movement inspired by said groups which is even larger and more nuanced and multi faceted than that

Conservatives love to think everything is a top down ideological monolith because that is the organizational structure they relate to best - but BLM is not that

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Jul 7 2020 09:14AM     link to this

^ That's pretty much the answer I figured I'd get.

Thanks for the confirmation.

Naw, don't think about you at all actually.


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Jul 7 2020 09:44AM     link to this


that's it, conservatives/independents can't understand or relate because it doesn't have a top-down structure. BLM is not that...what are they? people on here supporting and donating should be able to explain the supporting of them.


I have seen prominent black civil rights admonish BLM...why would they do that? some of these people hate trump so bad, I could barely watch them over the past 3 years with the attacks...BUT this turnaround and push against BLM and DEM party is pretty eye-opening from these life long dems







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Jul 7 2020 09:49AM     link to this

BLM is a money tool for the DNC... plain and simple.

I work with educated people from everywhere in the world and we all get along and work together and are proud of what we accomplish. People are hired and given opportunity based on education and experience.

I'm actually a minority in my field without a doubt. It's been that way a long time.

This stopped being about George Floyd all long time ago.

BLM is a racist hate mob and the media and Dem party are complicit in letting the shit happen. It's all about socialism and redistribution of wealth

Defund the police... Pffft.

How about defund welfare, food stamps and affirmative action....
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Jul 7 2020 10:19AM     link to this

Right wing people (whether so called "conservatives" or fascists) inherently relate to a top down/authoritarian organizational structure - that's why they have convinced themselves that there HAS to be a puppet master behind street protests, whether it's the cliched Jewish boogieman in George Soros or the so-called "elite" (Clintons/DNC/Obama/fill in the blank)

What we have been seeing on the streets of America right now is none of that - it has nothing to do with any version of the current center-right corporatist Democratic Party (it's beyond laughable that there is an attempt to conflate someone as right-center as Joe Biden with something actually progressive like the defunding of police departments)

George Floyd was murdered in broad daylight on camera by state security forces (the police) less than six weeks ago (May 25) - so I don't want to hear some bullshit "stopped being about XYZ long ago"

Jackassrabbit - "People are hired and given opportunity based on education and experience" I would send you links to the countless articles about how both education and "experience" operate in a deeply (yes, SYSTEMIC) racist manner in this country. As far as affirmative action, there was an article that came out YESTERDAY with the statistic that 45% (!) of white Harvard students were granted admission based on being legacies, athletes or related to large monetary donors. Is that the "need-blind" admission standard you want to hold up? Or we can read about the countless studies where job or housing applicants with Black names received a fraction of the attention of those with white passing names. Ultimately, I realize no article I will link will convince you of what is clear and true - so I am kind of wondering what we are all doing here with these blogs anywy (killing time I guess)

(In the interest of transparency, I am personally 100% in advocacy of democratic socialism, redistribution of wealth (especially yours), economic reparations for the descendants of the slaves upon whose backs our nation was literally built and the right of all people to defend themselves by any means necessary - also I am not a Democrat I am a LEFTIST I hate Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer as much as I hate Mike Pence and Mitch McConnell).
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Jul 7 2020 10:24AM     link to this

The white establishment structure ALWAYS has a need for black people who will go in front of a camera to speak out against other black people - it is one of their most valuable tools and they will elevate these people as much as possible - whether it is Jason Whitlock, Candace Owens, Stacey Dash or anyone else...this is part of a long history and legacy to silence the voices of the black majority
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Jul 7 2020 10:51AM     link to this

@GE
I will be happy to lend you a fuck and you can pay me back whenever
But, i will need to give you the fuck in person

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Jul 7 2020 11:52AM     link to this

BLM Really SUXS!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Jul 7 2020 12:28PM     link to this

What makes me laugh is that so many of you think black people or conservatives or white people or liberals or Latins etc... are all one thing.

The greatness of America is that we become greater than the sum of our parts.

It’s weird that it’s acceptable for Joe Biden and Donald Trump to think differently and no one challenges which is more “white.” Which ONE actually speaks for white people? How about both?

But if there is a Barack Obama and a Ben Carson... all of sudden only ONE is allowed to be considered “black” and speak for black people.

We (Americans)are more complex than that, yet since it’s easier, you guys like to dumb it down and make everyone the same.

Only lazy people are not nuanced in their thinking.

Concerning BLM... at its roots, overall, I think it is harmful. But it’s current practical application is helpful.
The reason it can’t be “All lives Matter” is because that is a given for most people. Black Lives Matter speaks to the point that there has been a historical and systemic devaluing of black lives.... particularly male black lives.
The idea they must address “black on black” murder in order for their “name” to be accurate is a red herring. It’s like the Eagle Society is wrong because they focus their energy on Bald Eagles in Wyoming.
Their mission is to challenge the governmental systems that they believe are not treating people of color equally.
We can argue about the ultimate end game and the means by which it is achieved... but to simply attack their focus because of their name is shallow and silly.

To be clear, I do not support BLM financially... and I do believe at its heart it is pushing for a dangerous form of Marxism. Unchallenged, it will go beyond today’s necessary impact and advance a cause and system most people would disagree with.

Lastly, those of you who feel the need to insult GE... fuck you! Her presence is what makes these blogs tolerable. Sorry.... enjoyable ❤️



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Jul 7 2020 01:34PM     link to this

Well said KS , People on November 3rd please vote
lets the voices be heard .If Kaiser is ready im voting
for him to be Potus 46 , GBD veep , & Doofey as the
Piss boy.
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Jul 7 2020 01:37PM     link to this

Wyatt... Its good to be the King snaps
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Jul 7 2020 02:46PM     link to this

BLM is another extremist group that promotes racism and violence and is trying to divide this country. No way are they peaceful when they can’t condone the violence that is attached to their organization.
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Jul 7 2020 02:50PM     link to this

The hitman for president?

Holy shit and a big oy vey.

Excuse me while I commit hari karri
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Jul 7 2020 02:54PM     link to this

But you would vote for me... right before you killed yourself... Right?
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Jul 7 2020 03:08PM     link to this

Here is the BLM mission statement as it appears on their website:

Black Lives Matter Foundation, Inc is a global organization in the US, UK, and Canada, whose mission is to eradicate white supremacy and build local power to intervene in violence inflicted on Black communities by the state and vigilantes. By combating and countering acts of violence, creating space for Black imagination and innovation, and centering Black joy, we are winning immediate improvements in our lives.

Just in case anyone pontificating on this topic cares.
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Jul 7 2020 03:25PM     link to this

@Atticus_Finch Dude you have made 3 of these blogs what exactly is the point of this??
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Jul 7 2020 04:10PM     link to this

Like most psychopaths he enjoys making people watch as he vomits nonsense.

This is clearly not his main account, and I don't understand why we tolerate these dudes who are here to just shit post and bitch and moan.

old washed up boomer conservatives who whine all the time about college liberals and BLM in the world are 1000X more annoying and dangerous to the foundations of our union than college liberals and BLM.
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Jul 7 2020 04:21PM     link to this

@Dude what's the point of most of these blogs? Rant, bullshit and wait for more interesting posts from the ladies.
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Jul 7 2020 04:46PM     link to this

lol @ PragerU video

Read what I said farther up the thread about the white establishment's need to promote and amplify black people criticizing other black people. The Hayden Christensen clone in ripped jeans is not exactly a deep thinker either
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Jul 7 2020 05:49PM     link to this

'@Atticus_Finch Dude you have made 3 of these blogs what exactly is the point of this??'

Actually Dude it was to answer GS's post. Which, as it turned out, was too long for her to read.
Forgot millennials have the attention span of a gold fish.

The 2nd post was because someone didn't like that there was a video showing people that are Black Americans disagreeing with blm, I imagine there are thousands more then just those, and just posted nothing in order to close the first blog. Seemed to me that if anyone wanted to voice their view they should be able to.

The narrative, it seems, is that almost everyone who's Black supports blm, or is expected to, and their aims. Posting the video the first time was to show a differing opinion from people who are Black.

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Jul 7 2020 06:19PM     link to this

OP, you don't need to explain yourself to anybody
That's the beauty of this space
Within TOS, you can speak your mind
Even Dumb Doofy can barf up in blogs
And, I would defend his right to do so
Praise Allah
Namaste
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Jul 7 2020 06:31PM     link to this

one of your BLM members.

just looking at one member, i feel i got the gist...let us listen to what this guy has to say on such matters.
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Jul 7 2020 06:34PM     link to this

A bunch a little dick white bois that want to talk about black issues. Fuck up outta here.
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Jul 7 2020 06:50PM     link to this

BLM SUXS
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Jul 7 2020 07:14PM     link to this

BLM SUXS
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Jul 7 2020 07:20PM     link to this

Also I realize a lot of you are super old and super out of touch but do you really think a movement has... a website? Okay boomers
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Jul 7 2020 07:23PM     link to this

BLM SUXS
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Jul 7 2020 07:39PM     link to this

What they say.
What they do.
What they don't say or do.
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Jul 7 2020 07:39PM     link to this

^^lmfao!!!
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Jul 7 2020 07:44PM     link to this

BLM REALLY ,REALLY SUXS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Jul 7 2020 08:34PM     link to this

Damn a lot of level 0s gotta lot to say lmao
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Jul 7 2020 08:34PM     link to this

Actual Marxism rules and is cool by the way
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Jul 7 2020 09:09PM     link to this

BLM AND COMMUNISM SUXS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Jul 7 2020 10:07PM     link to this

Marxism is cool.
Okay Millenial


For your next vacation, try the Sandals Gulag in Yakutsk
Great place! Drop us a postcard!

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Jul 7 2020 11:37PM     link to this

Well to do citizen thinks Marxism is "cool" up until all his toys and wealth is given up to the "state"

Of course you'll need a good purge like Khmer Rouge did...

Oh yeah Marxism is cool.

I've got zero probs with equal rights. Your fairy land of Marxism has no place in this country.
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Jul 8 2020 12:18AM     link to this

Its funny when "woke" fools like Beyonce claim oppression yet have their clothing line made by indentured slaves in another country.

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Jul 8 2020 12:23AM     link to this

One sewing machine operator said that she was unable to survive on her basic wage of 18,500 rupees a month ($126). The newspaper claimed on average seamstresses earn £4.30 a day ($6.23), although acknowledging that workers at the factory were still being paid above the legal minimum wage of 13,500 rupees a month.



Yet they wanna tell us how we are the devil incarnate.

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Jul 8 2020 12:24AM     link to this

If thats the case she's not truly "WOKE"
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Jul 8 2020 12:36AM     link to this

So you’re saying every human being is entitled to earn a living wage and that predatory capitalism that pays poor people starvation wages should be regulated and controlled? Cool I agree!
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Jul 8 2020 01:01AM     link to this

^GRANITE^
"Frasier Cranium"


(Types so many words that say so very little)
This conehead is exactly like Frasier Crane from the old Cheers episodes.
Zeros
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Jul 8 2020 01:01AM     link to this

In the end, we are all selfish assholes. We see what we do as not a sin, but good business.

Humans have always exploited the weaker tribes. It is the nature of things.

We like to think we are so enlightened, but we are only 5 minutes out of the caves on the grand scale of time.

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