"Gov. Gavin Newsom on Monday required 30 counties, including all in Southern California, to close indoor activities at fitness centers, places of worship, offices for non-critical sectors, personal care services, such as hair salons and barbershops, and indoor malls.
In addition, he ordered all 58 counties to close indoor operations at restaurants, wineries, tasting rooms, movie theaters, family entertaining centers, museums, zoos and card rooms, and ordered all bars shuttered across the state."
Maybe because Florida’s ICU’s are already maxed out?
“Dozens of hospitals in Florida are at their ICU capacity as the state struggles to contain its massive spike of COVID-19 cases.
According to new data released by the state's Agency for Health Care Administration, almost 85 percent of the state's ICU beds are occupied, with just 933 ICU available beds remaining across the state.”
Some states are ordering Morgue Trucks to haul the dead away. Hope it does not come to that. This closure appears warranted. Rather be safe than sorry as they say.
there is 326.7 million people in the US according to wiki. the CDC shows 3296599 people have been tested positive. That is only 1% of the people. And CDC shows 134884 deaths. that is only .04% of the total population
The Orange County Board of Education has voted 4-1 to reopen schools next month with in-person instruction. Students and teachers can choose to attend classes without masks and no social distancing is required.
@luv.bj your remarks are stupid and childish, just like Trump's. I can't tell who's the bigger idiot between the two of you morons, I'm thinking it's you, as he is the conman and you're a beloved follower.
You're a dopey, dim witted fool, who doesn't understand how society functions.
At least he's a lot more clever with his words, Corndog.
You never have anything interesting to say.
Couldn't you be a little less boring and predictable?
As for the graphs, it's interesting that they're that different. I can't see NR's so have to go with CDC.
Is this not what we want to see?
Many more cases but much lower death rate due to more knowledgeable healthcare rather that just intubate and hope for the best?
Besides the unknown HCQ effect, I know of one person who received the steroid Budesonide in a Nebulizer.....which appears to have a positive effect but no studies that I've heard of. Also, Remdesivir and other on-the-fly off prescription ideas.
"At least he's a lot more clever with his words" Says one obnoxious troll defending another obnoxious troll."
I totally agree with you. GoBallsDeepInHisAsshole membership should be expelled from HX for good, because the only thing he does in these blogs to discredit and assault other people who has different opinions than he does. He is a total disgrace and his comments would harm other people with this Pandemic situation.
The pity is that he does not comprehend what he is trying to accomplish here. He does not know how harmful and dangerous as his admirer Trump the fuhrer (AKA Agent Orange) is.
Remdesevir 3,000.00 a pop!! And since its a late infection treatment you may have such severe issues when you are "cured" you would wish you were dead .... You'll be so far in debt.
Hmmmm.... Wonder if the price goes up when it is scarce?
"What percentage of the population should we actually start caring?"
@NR
What number do we cross where we go from "not caring" to shutting down the economy?
In your opinion? 1? 7? 1,000? 10,000? 200,000?
Must one be a scientist or an ethicist to make that call?
Who gets to make that call? You? The mayor, the governor, the President? Congress?
Rather than asking the open ended question
Give us your take on it, please
We seem to always come back to this I have to go back (again) to what we were thinking in March. Assuming worst case scenario, with about 80% of the population potentially getting COVID, with about a 1% IFR, we thought that roughly 2-2.5 million people could die within 5 months if nothing was done. Also we were worried this would just be death from the virus. Incapacitation of hospitals would increase total deaths. Under these worst-case circumstances, I think a lockdown was warranted.
I don’t know how else to answer the question as to a “cutoff.” I wouldn’t have shut things down if the IFR was 0.1%, like a standard flu, largely because hospitals would have been able to handle the influx at that point.
In retrospect, we need a careful analysis of these models that we used to get these numbers. It is very likely that assumptions in the models were incorrect and might have given us an overestimation of these numbers that led to these decisions. Research into this must be done. Yet again, the models with their overestimations got politicians active to prevent some of the destruction that would have occurred if we did nothing.
I know you disagree with my thinking. That is fine. It is an opinion.
"@ Horndog, I'm flattered you are using all the insults I used against you a month ago. It kind confirms my suspicion that you're a follower, a sheep, a lemming, an uninspiring dim bulb."
@random_john? You have no comments here which I have insulted, nor any other comments under the random_john profile. Do you have another account and got the two mixed up? I didn't know you even existed until your comments above. Regardless, you still mean nothing to me, your a delusional flea trying to get under my ball sack. Good luck with those profiles twerp.
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