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fake news
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True news!
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A huge scathing indictment of the NYT. No wonder their credibility goes further down every day.
And this was written by someone considered to be of the liberal persuasion.
Yeah, and it is not fake news, you dumb ass.
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These new "journalists" have reduced the NYT (a once revered institution) to basically as useful as toilet paper... jesus..
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pieranna....can't eve be used as toilet paper....news print can get all over your ass and the paper is a little rough for the anus.
But can certainly be used for bird cage lining..... or maybe even under the kitty litter box.
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I'm not sure it's so much the journalists fault... they want to do good work that is insightful and aligned with their beliefs.
The game plan is handed down from the editors and above. Journalists just morph their voice into what is required by editors to make it to press.
In the case of CNN it's all about bashing Trump 24/7
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jackrabbit....yes, it is above the journalists, but it is refreshing when the journalists flip the bird to their editors and move on.
Of course, once Trump is no longer President, CNN and so many others won't have a fucking clue what to do.....since they stopped being investigative journalists and only know Trump bashing.
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Where are all the Liberals and Democrats.....no comment?
Or does the truth slice deeply?????
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I'll agree that Weiss raises valid points that there shouldn't be a narrowing of what can be said editorially.
OK, Jazz. Now are you going to expect & demand the same standards of Fox News?
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It's not just on the left. It's a problem with the right too. People use facts to back up their belief systems, not the other way around.
And people have the luxury of doing that now with the thousands of sites on the web spewing facts that only back up a group of people's world view.
It happens on Hx with people all the time, both left and right. But there are more right-wingers here, so it seems more prevalent with them just because there are more of them here.
My background is in the sciences. That's why I was pro-health when it came to COVID. I never thought that I would end up on one side with the MSNBC's dishing out a political fight about something -- to me -- which should be above politics -- people's health and well being. But it's happened, and I feel I have succumbed to a political fight at times too, and I hate it.
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“Of course, the left will deflect, deny, change the subject, and probably name call.”
LOL. Read all of your past comments on your Dear Leader or anything related to him.
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The New York Times has turned into a paper which cherry-picks its facts and what it writes about to espouse a certain point of view about the world. But it seems that 99% of sites on both the left and right do the same thing. That's the problem.
It's not just a left-wing problem.
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As a subscriber, I will continue to read selected articles in the NYT because it's not ALL poorly written and left bias.........truly guys. Sure 90%+ is slanted crap but there's some good stuff there too....... maybe in the Travel section 
Probably none of you even noticed that the LA Times had a great piece in the Sunday Op-Ed by Joel Kotkin, who normally writes for the Register....great piece about Cali. I've linked but not sure you'll be able to read it if you don't subscribe. The LA Times, like the Washington Post, is really only good for using at the bottom of a bird cage.......but sometimes, you never know, they print something good.
Now the real piece of shit is the NY Times Magazine, the folks who brought you Project 1619 created by Nikole Hannah-Jones.......a complete idiot.
But, I find it useful to read both sides of the story before i form an opinion, even when it's distasteful.
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I don't believe there is another newspaper in the US that has had as many reporter scandals as the NYT, though. Anybody remember Jayson Blair?
Also, included a wiki on more of the same from the NYT........
But, I still find it a useful source of info, even if only to know where the truly "Woke" crowd resides
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It's a great letter that sounds a needed alarm IMHO.
"But the truth is that intellectual curiosity—let alone risk-taking—is now a liability at The Times. "
What is sad, and exactly what the letter is talking about--is that people like OP tried to stifle it by labeling is as left vs. right, or pretending the letter supports some political view or ideology.
It is just the opposite if you really read it-- blind ideology and thinking of everything in terms of outdated labels or political battles is the PROBLEM.
“An independent press is not a liberal ideal or a progressive ideal or a democratic ideal. It’s an American ideal,”
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^ Hopefully, you will take that attitude into the next blog............
Namaste Happy
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Fox News is often just as bad as CNN, although they do bring in people from the left to debate and sometimes a more balanced view is shared.
However, there are far fewer right wing news agencies and papers than the abundance of left wing.
I might expect a 90/10 split of left versus right.
So based upon sheer volume, the problem leans left.
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There's a lot of right-wing news sources that make up the difference.
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Do you even read the NY Times OP?
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It's completely made-up, this right/left split. It is idiotic but convenient to label everything and everyone as one or the other and have a neat cubbyhole. But it is not accurate.
Fox does not represent the Right wing and certainly not a Conservative view--more about being divisive, destroying the fabric of the country and a lot yelling talking heads saying nothing. They definitely win the prize for creating and broadcasting fake news and outright lies--what they show is just entertainment fiction, not news.
CNN is as almost as bad and certainly is not the voice of the left or progressives. They seem to spend half of their bandwidth reporting on their own reporters and opinion pieces.
And Donald Trump is not a Conservative, not even close. He is probably destroying the Conservative movement by trying to take it over.
Most real Conservatives I know do not watch Fox and do not support Trump.
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^Well, there is a lot of sources out there, whatever you want to call them, left, right, whatever. And they usually cherry pick their facts to back up their points of view. They don't just present facts to analyze and let themselves evolve to a previously unknown point of view.
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People would like to read the news. They don’t much care about opinions. And that is my opinion.
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Nothing wrong with an opinion as long as it's on the Op-Ed page.
The rest should simply be reported as factual news.
One of the best used to be the IBD op-Ed.
They would take one topic and have 2 writers address it.
One "On the Left" and one "On the Right"
Then let the reader decide.
The POS LA Times would put their Op-Ed writers on the front of the Business section......
Until they dropped that section altogether, lol
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Very few left leaning people at right wing places because the establishment is left. So you’re not going to find the same numbers, but look no further than Hx. People on the left get blasted by people on the right just for having a different opinion. And it can get personal.
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You’re not going to see a person get booed off the stage at Liberty university for a pro- abortion viewpoint not because it wouldn’t happen but because no one is going to want to express a pro-abortion viewpoint at Liberty in the first place
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Conservatives do cancel culture all the time. Boycotting Gillette because of their toxic masculinity ads. Boycotting NFL due to Kaepernick’s bending the knee. Boycotting Target for some shit they pulled.
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Target was transgender bathrooms
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There simply is no equivalent to they New York Times or The Washington Post on the right. That’s why you don’t see what you describe. Not because it wouldn’t exist.
Well, maybe The Wall St Journal. But are there liberals on the editorial board there? Thought experiment: I wonder how well Paul Krugman would be treated by the Walk Street Journal Editorial Board?
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My personal opinion. All of it is ridiculous. Cancel culture is a cancer. That guy from Goya was fine.
I just think everyone does it though. The left does it more than the right. I agree with you on that. Though I think it’s because they have more opportunity in my opinion.
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Thank you. You too, Granite.
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The only thing in the New York Demon-crat Times that can be trusted is the crossword puzzle.
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This guy and his boring comments.↑ Not going to bother reading them but thanks for the effort. I'm pretty sure you have nothing insightful to add.
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"Well, maybe The Wall St Journal. But are there liberals on the editorial board there? Thought experiment: I wonder how well Paul Krugman would be treated by the Walk Street Journal Editorial Board?"
Actually, since i'm a subscriber, I can tell you for a fact that WSJ is the fairest paper of the ones you mentioned. They have Liberal/Progressive op-ed inside last page front section off and on. There was an interesting back and forth between David Axelrod and a WSJ op-ed guy just recently, all very genial. They do not, to my knowledge, have a dedicated Liberal Op-Ed writer.
They would allow Krugman to say his piece, imho. But then, Krugman doesn't typically have anything to say that's worth listening to. For a guy who won a Nobel for International Trade and Economic Geography, he's stunningly dense when it comes to human nature and motivation outside of economic considerations. Krugman is a predictable ideologue.
WSJ tends to be center to center/right on most issues. They've been able, unlike the NYT, to maintain their independence from the owner, Murdoch. NYT needs to get rid of the Sulzbergers and clean up their act and they could be a great paper again if they provided balanced coverage.
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Goballsdeep....I think they might be too far gone to bring it back.
Once you head down the road of total bias, it takes a long time for readers to come back as trust is hard to earn but very easy to lose.
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The WSJ garnered Nobel prizes for covering Trumps "Russian Collusion" which was the necessary pendulum hyptnotizing the masses into tolerance of Mulleur's farse and Schiffs constant lies about a whistleblower.
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+1 on the WSJ.... but I had to stop linking those articles to blogs because Most of you big spenders Didn’t have subscriptions.
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@SonofAdams
Are you serious?
You clearly do not watch Fox News!
With Juan Willams and Donna Brazille featuring prominently, Fox News is hardly the one sided platform that the New York Times is.
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^ yes and on Sundays Chris Wallace is frustrating to watch when he has liberal guests... Basically hands the platform to them, asks questions but never any tactical follow up or an attempt to break them down.
Judge Jeanine Pirro went on the view in the past week to promote her new book "liars, leakers and liberals" ( probably a bad idea ) and Whoppi completely lost it during the interview... stormed off the set and saw Pirro backstage later... was yelling at Pirro and told her to "get the fuck out of this building"...
WTF is with these whacked out libtards like whoopi and Joy behar... total drama and grandstanding.
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Objective people see the bias.....
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JackRabbitt, if you don't see how people like Piro are insane & shouldn't be given any forum to spew their pro-Trump views given that they'll defend him no matter what ridiculous things he does, there's no reaching you.
Jazz, it's not about bias. It's about common sense that some of these right wingers are crazy & constantly make shit up just because they can't admit Trump is wrong.
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Oh the irony!
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Yes, Lou the irony is just dripping in huge droplets.....
And the CNN people NEVER, NEVER, NEVER make up anything....
I am not defending every right leaning person commentator. When a right leaning person says something that is bullshit...I will point it out.
I often see stuff floating around the internet that does not hold up to fact check...I reply to the sender with links showing the error.
Some Fox commentators do get carried away. But I have heard way more crap coming from the left since there are 10 times more of them.
I will reiterate my comment....
Objective people can see the bias....others just put their heads in the sand....
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Yes, so in conclusion, all conservatives & those who defend Trump should not be given a microphone to spread their bullshit.
So glad you all agree!
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