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Locked. No further comments permitted.Fauci's emails released
Jun 2 2021 08:02AM more by Kayman
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we're getting closer
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Jun 2 2021 08:18AM     link to this

Fauci is toast... DONE
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Jun 2 2021 10:11AM     link to this

"Fauci is toast... DONE"

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What are people suppose to be looking at? Dont see anything here.

Is this the right's new Benghazi ?
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Jun 2 2021 12:07PM     link to this

It's not over until NR says it is.

Masks and EUA Vax and Booster Shots and Economy Busting Lockdowns and Social Distancing and fake PCR tests, forever!
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Jun 2 2021 12:25PM     link to this

Then there's this.

https://twitter.com/RepMattGaetz/status/1399820521689292801

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Jun 2 2021 12:27PM     link to this

Sorry but this is just too good (yet sad at the same time).

"While Dr. Fauci was lying about the threat, lying about the travel ban, lying about masks, lying about herd immunity, lying about gain-of-function research, and lying about the Wuhan Lab he somehow had time to write a book about “truth”."
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Jun 2 2021 01:39PM     link to this

Nothing new here. The HIV hypothesis was debunked a long time ago. (See link by Trevor Bedford, an extremely well-respected evolutionary biologist). Dredging this up is bullshit by people who have a beef with Fauci because of politics, not science.
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Jun 2 2021 01:41PM     link to this

I love how people who never did a PCR test in their life or never got more than a mile from a PCR machine say the PCR test is fake.
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Jun 2 2021 01:53PM     link to this

You know, the hypothesis that COVID started as a lab leak is sound enough at this time without having to add political garbage to it.
flash911
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Jun 2 2021 02:00PM     link to this

"I love how people who never did a PCR test in their life or never got more than a mile from a PCR machine say the PCR test is fake."

You are so right dude!

Except for the part where the man who actually invented the PCR test said don't use it for COVID; too many false positives.
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Jun 2 2021 02:24PM     link to this

Its pretty hilarious that a movement that started with shutting down a group of pedophiles are rallying behind an actual pedophile in Matt Gaetz.
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Jun 2 2021 03:01PM     link to this

"Nothing new here. The HIV hypothesis was debunked a long time ago. (See link by Trevor Bedford, an extremely well-respected evolutionary biologist). Dredging this up is bullshit by people who have a beef with Fauci because of politics, not science."

Fauci was the only guy that could turn medical science into political malfeasance.

Smoking gun:
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Jun 2 2021 03:04PM     link to this

That came from page 2286 of his FOIA released emails.
flash911
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Jun 2 2021 03:05PM     link to this

See link
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Jun 2 2021 03:17PM     link to this

lol ^

look up who Adam Gaetner is. He's not even a doctor and he claims in his twitter bio that he "discovered a cure for COVID in April 2020." His website is "covidcandy.net".

Question for you, did Fauci interact with Gaetner or is the email you linked just some unsolicited bullshit?
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Jun 2 2021 03:39PM     link to this

Also was email Mark Fuckerburg to discuss how FB should handle the commentary.
Emails exchanged with Bill Gates and Morgan Freeman.

WTF do celebrities' and CEOS know about a public health crisis?


If you needed more proof that the narrative is being controlled by these parasite social media companies...here it is.



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Jun 2 2021 03:47PM     link to this

Also was email Mark Fuckerburg to discuss how FB should handle the commentary.
Emails exchanged with Bill Gates and Morgan Freeman.

WTF do celebrities' and CEOS know about a public health crisis?


If you needed more proof that the narrative is being controlled by these parasite social media companies...here it is.

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Combating disinformation on social media. Idiots get their news and info on Facebook. You want a dialog with guys like Gates and Zuckerburg to combat lies.

Morgan Freeman? I dont know the context of their discussion but its not all that surprising that they would reach out to a celebrity with public trust to relay messages. I am sure it wasnt to discuss health policies but to spread PSA.

There are commercials with celebrities to advocate vaccines. Same ideal why corporations hire celebrities to push a product. This says more about the public, not Fauci or US government.
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Jun 2 2021 04:11PM     link to this

The media giving China cover over Covid-19 being a manipulated virus "escaping" from a Wuhan China lab is slipping. It will be interesting to see who or what group steps in to shore up the Wet Market cover story or who or what group steps up with facts about Patient Zero and whether it was an intentional leak or a colossal mistake.

Whatevedr the case, it sure did highlight colossal National Security defects. Is the Joe Biden Administration equipped to deal with colossal National Security threats? It does not look like it to me.
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Jun 2 2021 05:30PM     link to this

Fauci is even coming out with a BOOK.. I guess cashing in using the pandemic is a really good thing according to democrats.
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Jun 2 2021 05:34PM     link to this

Then there's this thread :

Scientist Kristian Anderson told Fauci SARS-CoV-2 has “unusual features” that “potentially look engineered”.

Not long after this email, the scientists authored a piece insisting the virus was natural and Fauci said the same publicly. This is a massive cover-up.

(Buzzfeed FOIA)

https://twitter.com/SharriMarkson/status/1399937513976864768
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Jun 2 2021 05:56PM     link to this

"Except for the part where the man who actually invented the PCR test said don't use it for COVID; too many false positives."

PCR tests have been shown to have high specificity and sensitivity in picking up COVID. Secondly, the guy never said to not use it for COVID. It seems like he said for HIV that you won't be able to determine simply from the test if the virus is live and infectious, or if it is dead and from an older infection. That is true. You can't get that information from the test itself. But that doesn't mean it is useless. It means you need additional information based on other studies that determine a cutoff value for what is likely infectious virus and what is likely a not infectious value.

Too many false positives doesn't come from the PCR testing algorithm if you find empirically a good cutoff value to use. Too many false positives occurs when the prevalence of the disease is very low in the population. That means, even if a test is highly specific and sensitive, the number of false positives can actually be relatively large. Say the disease prevalence is 1% and the specificity and sensitivity are both 99%. From 10,000 tests, 100 of them are expected to have the disease, and 9,900 aren't. Therefore, from testing, you will find 99 true positives and 99 false postitives. That's 50% wrong! Testing, therefore, is a problem when disease prevalence is low. The solution to getting more accurate numbers is to retest.
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Jun 2 2021 05:59PM     link to this

"Then there's this thread :

Scientist Kristian Anderson told Fauci SARS-CoV-2 has “unusual features” that “potentially look engineered”.

Not long after this email, the scientists authored a piece insisting the virus was natural and Fauci said the same publicly. This is a massive cover-up.

(Buzzfeed FOIA)"

What part of "but we have to look at this much more closely" don't you understand?
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Jun 2 2021 06:01PM     link to this

"Fauci was the only guy that could turn medical science into political malfeasance.

Smoking gun:"

Complete speculation by someone who claimed to "discover the cure for COVID in April 2020."
flash911
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Jun 2 2021 06:06PM     link to this

Ivermectin has been studied by well over 100,000 users and still not debunked as ineffective or a harmful treatment. Can't say the same for your Dear Vax. Also rated safe by the FDA.

You stick to your science NR. I'll stick to my own common sense.
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Jun 2 2021 06:07PM     link to this

*** TOAST ***

And Just Like That, Dr. Fauci’s Book Has Been Pulled From Presales

😯
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Jun 2 2021 06:08PM     link to this

I agree that there is credibility to the hypothesis that COVID may have escaped from a lab. (Another theory that isn't getting enough credit is that it was a natural virus that escaped, not one designed in the la. However, trying to look at old emails of people you don't like due ultimately to your politics is not going to get us closer to finding the truth. Making it into a conspiracy theory is the wrong approach to solve this problem.
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Jun 2 2021 06:15PM     link to this

"Ivermectin has been studied by well over 100,000 users and still not debunked as ineffective or a harmful treatment. Can't say the same for your Dear Vax. Also rated safe by the FDA."



Yeah. That's not accurate. From the latest meta-analysis of randomized controlled trials dated May 25th:

"In comparison to SOC or placebo, IVM did not reduce all-cause mortality, length of stay or viral clearance in RCTs in COVID-19 patients with mostly mild disease. IVM did not have effect on AEs or SAEs. IVM is not a viable option to treat COVID-19 patients."



Secondly, from Merck, the drug company that makes Ivermectin that would profit from its use, on Ivermectin:

" -No scientific basis for a potential therapeutic effect against COVID-19 from pre-clinical studies;
-No meaningful evidence for clinical activity or clinical efficacy in patients with COVID-19 disease, and;
-A concerning lack of safety data in the majority of studies."





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Night-Rider
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Jun 2 2021 06:16PM     link to this

"Can't say the same for your Dear Vax"

The vaccine is clearly the number one reason why new cases, hospitalizations, and deaths have become so low and why society is heading back to normal.
Night-Rider
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Jun 2 2021 06:18PM     link to this

There must be a reason so many of you are married to untruths and conspiracy theories about COVID. Unfortunately, I'm not a sociologist or psychiatrist, so I can't figure out why you guys do it.
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Jun 2 2021 06:52PM     link to this

nr, you and your corona virus guy are both over.
Most people had already figured out this BS a long time again.
Let's hope you can actually figure out the truth on your own.
Who am I kidding, nr will never figure it out.
Kayman
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Jun 2 2021 07:05PM     link to this

There is plenty evidence for ivermectin, not to mention its proven safe track record
But are you surprised its been censored by the same tech/pharma/govt overlords who intentionally downplayed the lab leak hypothesis?

See the transcript from Dr Pierre Kory congressional testimony thats been removed from YouTube etc

And no NR, Merck will not benefit from its use as their patent on the drug ran out some 30 years ago
& is now widely manufactured all around the world, although they were the first to bring it to the market, try to keep up





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https://trialsitenews.com/widespread-distribution-of-ivermectin-proves-effective-in-mexico-against-covid-19/
https://www.hsgac.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/Testimony-Kory-2020-12-08.pdf
Kayman
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Jun 2 2021 07:13PM     link to this

Do u really think if trump won last year dems would be championing the vaccine now?
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Jun 2 2021 07:49PM     link to this

NR quotes sources and studies the in same convincing, all knowing tone Dr. Fauci does.

Hmmm ....

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Jun 2 2021 08:27PM     link to this

So if the Wuhan lab leak theory proves to be true, then MSM and social media censorship help facilitate one of the biggest cover ups in modern history.

All in the name of stopping "misinformation ".

Why should they be trusted to be the arbiters of truth ever again...?

#breakupbigtech

#repealsection230
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Jun 2 2021 08:33PM     link to this

More precisely, it was John Lauritsen, not Mullis, who said that PCR testing is qualitative not quantitative. It detects the genetic sequence of a virus, not the virus itself and cannot tell you if that person is infectious or not. While its the standard of testing in the UK, there are certainly many, including Mullis, who said that going beyond 25 iterations was a waste of time.

Lauritsen's quote, “PCR is intended to identify substances qualitatively, but by its very nature is unsuited for estimating numbers. Although there is a common misimpression that the viral load tests actually count the number of viruses in the blood, these tests cannot detect free, infectious viruses at all; they can only detect proteins that are believed, in some cases wrongly, to be unique to HIV. The tests can detect genetic sequences of viruses, but not viruses themselves.”

Furthermore, “It is important to note that detecting viral material by PCR does not indicate that the virus is fully intact and infectious, i.e. able to cause infection in other people. The isolation of infectious virus from positive individuals requires virus culture methods. These methods can only be conducted in laboratories with specialist containment facilities and are time consuming and complex.”

Basically, they had to do something and PCR is the best they could come up with. However, amplifying as many times as they do is bound to pick up random genetic sequences, not necessarily fully functioning viral load. As one test result I saw said in so many words, you've tested positive for SARS 2 or a similar coronavirus...wtf?

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Jun 2 2021 08:43PM     link to this

"There is plenty evidence for ivermectin, not to mention its proven safe track record"

Ok. Instead of cherry-picking studies. Let's look at Google Scholar randomized or observational studies, starting with the most recent.

1. Effect of Ivermectin on Time to Resolution of Symptoms Among Adults With Mild COVID-19
A Randomized Clinical Trial. Conclusion: "Among adults with mild COVID-19, a 5-day course of ivermectin, compared with placebo, did not significantly improve the time to resolution of symptoms. The findings do not support the use of ivermectin for treatment of mild COVID-19, although larger trials may be needed to understand the effects of ivermectin on other clinically relevant outcomes."

2. A five-day course of ivermectin for the treatment of COVID-19 may reduce the duration of illness.
"Virological clearance was earlier in the 5-day ivermectin treatment arm when compared to the placebo group (9.7 days vs 12.7 days; p = 0.02),"

3. The effect of early treatment with ivermectin on viral load, symptoms and humoral response in patients with non-severe COVID-19: A pilot, double-blind, placebo-controlled, randomized clinical trial. "Among patients with non-severe COVID-19 and no risk factors for severe disease receiving a single 400 mcg/kg dose of ivermectin within 72 h of fever or cough onset there was no difference in the proportion of PCR positives. There was however a marked reduction of self-reported anosmia/hyposmia, a reduction of cough and a tendency to lower viral loads and lower IgG titers which warrants assessment in larger trials."

4.Use of Ivermectin Is Associated With Lower Mortality in Hospitalized Patients With Coronavirus Disease 2019: The Ivermectin in COVID Nineteen Study. "Ivermectin treatment was associated with lower mortality during treatment of COVID-19, especially in patients with severe pulmonary involvement. Randomized controlled trials are needed to confirm these findings."

5.Ivermectin treatment was associated with lower mortality during treatment of COVID-19, especially in patients with severe pulmonary involvement. Randomized controlled trials are needed to confirm these findings. "According to the findings obtained, ivermectin can provide an increase in clinical recovery, improvement in prognostic laboratory parameters and a decrease in mortality rates even when used in patients with severe COVID-19. Consequently, ivermectin should be considered as an alternative drug that can be used in the treatment of COVID-19 disease or as an additional option to existing protocols."


So Ivermectin sometimes is successful in smaller studies or in observational studies. It warrants a very large, randomized control trial like the British RECOVERY trial. Until it passes something like that, I don't believe it should be indicated for COVID-19. However, if you have COVID, and want to try it, be my guest, if you can find a doctor that prescribes it.
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Jun 2 2021 08:56PM     link to this

Again, PCR works, but you need additional information. You need to know from empirical studies what CT values are associated with infectious virus and what values are not:

"Mina, Gaglia, and others argue that knowing whether CT values are high or low can be highly informative. 'Even with all the imperfections, knowing the viral load can be extremely powerful,' Mina says.

Early studies showed that patients in the first days of infection have CT values below 30, and often below 20, indicating a high level of virus; as the body clears the coronavirus, CT values rise gradually. More recent studies have shown that a higher viral load can profoundly impact a person’s contagiousness and reflect the severity of disease.

In a study published this week in Clinical Infectious Diseases, researchers led by Bernard La Scola, an infectious diseases expert at IHU-Méditerranée Infection, examined 3790 positive samples with known CT values to see whether they harbored viable virus, indicating the patients were likely infectious. La Scola and his colleagues found that 70% of samples with CT values of 25 or below could be cultured, compared with less than 3% of the cases with CT values above 35. 'It’s fair to say that having a higher viral load is associated with being more infectious,' says Monica Gandhi, an infectious diseases specialist at the University of California, San Francisco."


If you have a high CT value, it usually indicates past presence of the disease, but you are unlikely to have a current infection.

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Jun 2 2021 08:57PM     link to this

^Any real doctor, outside of a state run by Warden Newsome or his ilk, will fill a prescription of Ivermectin or Hydoxychloroquine.......no problem.....

Because millions of doses have been taken by humans successfully for many years.
Don't make it sound like it's Russian Roulette

NR, sometimes you're more dangerous than the underlying disease

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Jun 2 2021 09:02PM     link to this

"It’s fair to say that having a higher viral load is associated with being more infectious,' says Monica Gandhi, an infectious diseases specialist at the University of California, San Francisco."

Wow! All I can say is..............duh, she's a fucking genius!
I got one for you.
It's safe to say that the sun will rise in the east and set in the west, tomorrow.
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Jun 2 2021 09:23PM     link to this

"Any real doctor, outside of a state run by Warden Newsome or his ilk, will fill a prescription of Ivermectin or Hydoxychloroquine.......no problem.....

Because millions of doses have been taken by humans successfully for many years.
Don't make it sound like it's Russian Roulette"

Don't you think it's risky to pin your hopes on something that may not work? This may prevent you from looking at treatments that has been shown to work, like monoclonal antibodies.
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Jun 2 2021 09:47PM     link to this

"The hypothesis that SARS-CoV-2, or COVID-19, was a man-made disease was considered a fringe theory but is now being taken seriously."

It's been taken seriously previously, as was the natural origins hypothesis. It's just that there's a lot of uncertainty in both hypotheses, and most scientists weren't making any noise about it, so there wasn't much in the news.
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Jun 2 2021 09:57PM     link to this

All of you Trumpsters are going after Dr. Fauci, but it was Trump who was advised that the virus was deadly and he lied to the American people on a daily basis. He continually downplayed the virus so that it would NOT affect his chance of winning back the White House as he kept pushing the strength of the economy. He did not care about Americans and their health. All he cared about was himself and a second term. He told millions of people to inject or drink bleach and a lot of A-Holes did just that! Trump was the worst President in USA History. He is a habitual liar, grifter, a conspiratorial idiot, and misogynistic fool.
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Jun 2 2021 10:00PM     link to this

Fauci caused the pandemic. Lock this fucker up.

/end
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Jun 2 2021 10:00PM     link to this

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Jun 2 2021 10:01PM     link to this

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Jun 2 2021 10:02PM     link to this

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