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Who Commits the Most Human Rights Abuses in the 21st Century between USA, Russia, and China?
Jun 12 2021 11:50PM more by witler5
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USA:

Police Brutality - Hundreds of people die each year from this

ICE - Reports of forced sterilization. Hundreds of people dying each year due to bad conditions. Lots of malnutritioned people in these camps

Guantanamo Bay - Reports of extreme torture methods. People held there for longest time without trial and some deaths

Afghanistan War - Been going on for 20+ years. Millions of deaths.

Iraq War - Millions of deaths

Somalia War - Thousands of deaths

Pakistan Invasion - Thousands of deaths

Libya Intervention - Thousands of deaths. Destabilized the government, and let loose Islamic radicals roaming around the areas, in addition to more civil war for power grab

Yemen War - Millions of deaths. Bombing food supplies

Syrian War - Millions of deaths. Stealing their oil

Economic Sanctions that cause starvation - An estimate says that harsh economic sanctions on one country causes about a million deaths per year, some more some less. Multiple countries are sanctioned per year. Thus an estimate of around hundreds of millions of people have died from sanctions

Russia:

Chechen War - Thousands of deaths

Georgian War - Few hundred deaths

Ukraine Conflict - Few hundred deaths

Annexation of Crimea - Pretty much zero deaths

Syrian War - Thousands of deaths

Has zero economic sanctions

China:

Hong Kong Takeover - Pretty much zero deaths

Uyghur Reeducation centers - Pretty much zero deaths

Zero wars started or participated in during this time frame

Has zero economic sanctions

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It seems to me like USA commits the most human rights abuses compared to any other country in the 21st century by far!
      
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Jun 12 2021 11:59PM     link to this

Yeah, this analysis isn’t biased…
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Jun 13 2021 12:01AM     link to this

How about people In Russia and China living under authoritarian regimes?

Some of your numbers are way off.
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Jun 13 2021 05:29AM     link to this

china 3.8m covid deaths

no bullets no rockets

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Jun 13 2021 08:48AM     link to this

America may have some faults, but in no other country that i'm aware of is so introspective and willing to examine it'self in order to improve.

I'm pretty sure that if OP was a Chinese or Russian citizen posting the same exact thing in their respective countries, it might just possibly be the last post they ever made.

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Jun 13 2021 11:04AM     link to this

Go live in China and protest something and see how their police kick your teeth down your throat and you cant do anything about it.

You forgot a lot of things the CCP is guilty of over the last 70 years.


You must be a CCP troll or something.


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Jun 13 2021 11:08AM     link to this

Hong Kong Takeover - Pretty much zero deaths

Uyghur Reeducation centers - Pretty much zero deaths

Where do you get this totally wrong information? The Global Times?





You should watch this channels videos about this subject. But you wont because it goes against your dumbass world view.


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Jun 13 2021 11:11AM     link to this

China and Russia are doing a good job competing for the title.

Their exporting their cruelty to other nations.
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Jun 13 2021 01:24PM     link to this

Reports of ICE forced sterilization?

Anyone can report anything. Where’s the proof? And are these rogue bad apples allegedly doing this or is this done official ICE sterilization policy. SMH at the BS people buy into just because it’s posted on Internet.
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Jun 13 2021 04:07PM     link to this

Speaking as an immigrant, it used to be that you or if your parents immigrated here, you were grateful and appreciative for the opportunities and freedoms in the U.S. Having lived in close to 10 countries, there is simply no comparison. I've taught my kids the same. Several friends and acquaintances I have now simply view the U.S. from a personal monetary gains point-of-view and their national loyalties remain with the countries from which they left or from which their parents came. They have passed this lack of loyalty on to their kids as well.

Much of this lack of loyalty is gone by the 3rd generation as future generations eventually assimilate, but with the whole blame the U.S. attitude being pushed by leftists, I'm not so sure anymore.
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Jun 13 2021 09:20PM     link to this

lmao lmao, people act like you cant protest in these places. Literally a protest in China not long ago! Same with the dumb Navalny protests!
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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-56834655
witler5
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Jun 13 2021 09:22PM     link to this

Reports of sterilization in ICE
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witler5
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Jun 13 2021 09:31PM     link to this

USA is best domestically, evidently from their per Capital. Russia is probably next best. China is probably worst domestically, longer work hours and the education/work systems more competitive than USA.

Nobody care as much about foreign policy tho, where USA is worst at. USA Leftists has some weird tendencies to go crazy over police shootings, but don't do jack shit when other countries bombed and even encourage sanctions! Which cause way more deaths than police shooting!
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Jun 13 2021 09:35PM     link to this

If OP wants to move to China or Russia
Nobody here will stop you
Write when you get work!



China cultural revolution. 20 million dead of starvation
Russian collectivist famine. 10 million dead
There's lots more but hey....nothing to see here

witler5
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Jun 13 2021 09:37PM     link to this

I guess they got mad at Israel tho lol
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Jun 13 2021 09:41PM     link to this

Besides which
Communism and Socialism as systems of governance are basically human rights abuses against all who live under them, so that would add up to.......billions

If you're saying that the people who run OUR government are a bunch of assholes
You'll get no argument from me on that

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Jun 13 2021 09:43PM     link to this

you know moving to China or Russia would still be decent compared to most other countries, better than Ethiopia or Bhutan. They got lots nuclear protection
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Jun 13 2021 09:47PM     link to this

Nucular protection?
Why would Ethiopia or Bhutan need that, lol
Better off being somewhere that's not on the target grid, right?
Anyway, let us know when you're leaving so we can throw a party, k?
Thx
witler5
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Jun 13 2021 09:53PM     link to this

I meant China Russia for nuclear. I have lived temporarily in both places before
witler5
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Jun 13 2021 09:58PM     link to this

Actually I don't know about Russia in the future, chaos may spur over there after Putin retires
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Jun 13 2021 10:02PM     link to this

I'll permanently move to China or Russia if you go with me love😍
witler5
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Jun 13 2021 10:23PM     link to this

How about we split America into two countries, where Liberals and Conservatives can live separately. Everyone would be much happier, then I'd probably have nothing else to critique about
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Jun 13 2021 10:34PM     link to this

Anyone moving out of Commie Cali because it's filled with radical Leftists !?
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Jun 13 2021 10:34PM     link to this

OP, at the very least I sincerely credit you for citing legitimate news source like BBC vs. the fringe conspiracy theory links that get thrown on these blogs by nutjobs. However, the article you cited about the protest in China has the following quotes:

1) "Such protests are rare in China where mass movements are controlled."
2) "The hashtag 'Nanjing...students injured by violent law enforcement was reportedly blocked on microblogging platform Weibo by Tuesday afternoon."

There is not even a shade of equivalence of freedom of speech and assembly vs. the U.S. The article you cited ironically confirms this point. So, if you were trying to show protests happen in China, some skull crackings swiftly follow.
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Jun 14 2021 12:07AM     link to this

sure its still more authoritarian over there. I'll just have to disagree with the freedom comparison part being overrated over here
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Jun 14 2021 05:59AM     link to this

First of all if AMERICA is so so bad......then LEAVE.

And take all of the actors and actresses with you who send they would as well....

And if you need one I will personally buy your airline....boat.....or any other way you want to leave the US.



This has to be the most ludicrous premise I have EVER read.

Mao's Great Leap Forward 'killed 45 million in four years'


And this was NOT even hard......
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Jun 14 2021 06:00AM     link to this

sorry forgot the source....


Mao Zedong, founder of the People's Republic of China, qualifies as the greatest mass murderer in world history, an expert who had unprecedented access to official Communist Party archives said yesterday.

Speaking at The Independent Woodstock Literary Festival, Frank Dikötter, a Hong Kong-based historian, said he found that during the time that Mao was enforcing the Great Leap Forward in 1958, in an effort to catch up with the economy of the Western world, he was responsible for overseeing "one of the worst catastrophes the world has ever known".

Mr Dikötter, who has been studying Chinese rural history from 1958 to 1962, when the nation was facing a famine, compared the systematic torture, brutality, starvation and killing of Chinese peasants to the Second World War in its magnitude. At least 45 million people were worked, starved or beaten to death in China over these four years; the worldwide death toll of the Second World War was 55 million.
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Jun 14 2021 08:25AM     link to this

DimWitler said:

"USA:

Police Brutality - Hundreds of people die each year from this -- LIE LIE LIE. How many unarmed black people have been killed by the police this year??? Hmmmmm......less than 20???

ICE - Reports of forced sterilization. Hundreds of people dying each year due to bad conditions. Lots of malnutritioned people in these camps -- LIE LIE LIE. You and the perpetrators of this LIE have clearly never heard of Skinner v. Oklahoma.

Guantanamo Bay - Reports of extreme torture methods. People held there for longest time without trial and some deaths - LIE LIE LIE - They live in a tropical climate and even have a soccer field! They even get 100% Halal certified foods!

Afghanistan War - Been going on for 20+ years. Millions of deaths -- So let the savages rule, brutalize women and ethnic minorities, and provide safe haven for international terrorists...GREAT OPTION!

Iraq War - Millions of deaths -- LIE LIE LIE

Somalia War - Thousands of deaths -- LIE LIE LIE

Pakistan Invasion - Thousands of deaths -- When did we invade Pakistan??? LIE LIE LIE. There was a surgical extraction of OBL's corpse after we shot it in the face...but that hardly was thousands of deaths.

Libya Intervention - Thousands of deaths. Destabilized the government, and let loose Islamic radicals roaming around the areas, in addition to more civil war for power grab -- LIE LIE LIE.

Yemen War - Millions of deaths. Bombing food supplies -- LIE LIE LIE.

Syrian War - Millions of deaths. Stealing their oil -- LIE LIE LIE. Syria is a relatively small oil producer, that accounted for just 0.5% of the global production in 2010...not much there to steal.

Economic Sanctions that cause starvation - An estimate says that harsh economic sanctions on one country causes about a million deaths per year, some more some less. Multiple countries are sanctioned per year. Thus an estimate of around hundreds of millions of people have died from sanctions...IN A PERFECT WORLD YES. IN REALITY THESE COUNTRIES WOULD TAKE THE PROFITS FROM FREE TRADE AND EITHER STEAL THEM OR BUILD WEAPONS WITH THEM -- THE PEOPLE WOULD STILL STARVE TO DEATH.
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Jun 14 2021 10:47AM     link to this

The irony always amazes me when people provide analysis...statistics...commentary etc...on items like this in a country where you are actually allowed to have an opinion...no matter how fucked up and retarded it is...try having an opinion in Iran about homosexuals and gay rights...try having an opinion in just about any country in the Middle East about Israel being a valid and real country...let me know which country you think is better than America...I will start a GoFundMe for you to get you there...
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Jun 14 2021 11:28AM     link to this

Wait for the next US backed coup in Latin America.
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Jun 14 2021 11:40AM     link to this

To the OP:

How about the 15 million-plus, dead at the hands of Mao's 'Great Leap Forward'?

What about the 5 - 10 million deaths under Stalin's 'population transfers'?

Did you forget about the Nazis and the 10 million dead in their camps, between the Jews, the Slavs, and everybody else they hated? That's not counting all the other soldiers and civilians they killed in battle.

And let's not forget the 1.5 - 2 million dead under Cambodian dictator Pol Pot.

The all-time winner for murder is Genghis Khan. He and his guys killed at least 30 million people, maybe up to 40 million, and laid waste to cities and infrastructure on a scale the world did not see again until the massive bombings of WWII.

Also, by the way, a lot of populations in the the countries you listed were doing an excellent job of killing each other off, long before the US showed up to take advantage of their chaos.

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Jun 14 2021 11:46AM     link to this

Russia
Millions dead in their Afghan war.
Stalinist Russia - millions dead in the Gulag's, the forced collective farming famine of the 30's - millions, the judicial executions/ purge - millions, another famine in the 40's millions more, and of course Kekulakization
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Jun 14 2021 01:56PM     link to this

Wow... witler5 could you be any more clueless? I feel kinda sorry for you. Being this gullable and incapable of independant reason is very sad.
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Jun 14 2021 08:14PM     link to this

haha a bunch of triggered morons over a troll posts, don't u guys always bitch about Commie Cali and their radical leftists always winning the state? How about YOU leave Cali 🤣🤣
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Jun 14 2021 08:15PM     link to this

100+ million dead from economic sanctions beats them all, and thats just 21st century
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Jun 14 2021 08:17PM     link to this

I'd have to agree, Genghis Khan is the worst out of them all. Deaths from him were probably way more than what you listed
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Jun 14 2021 08:26PM     link to this

I see a lot of complaints about Neocons on various political sites a bunch of times, and a bunch people agreeing with that. Didn't say anything really new, apparently dramatizing the events and adding America BAD causes people to do a flip🤣🤣🤣
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