How is something MORE contagious? Either it’s contagious or it’s not. Delta variant is supposedly MORE contagious. To me, this makes no sense. Either it’s contagious or not but MORE contagious? If you’re near someone with something that’s contagious you’ll get it. It’s not like you’ll super super duper get it. If you’re near then and it’s contagious it isn’t like you won’t get it. It’s contagious!!! But how is something MORE contagious? Smh a thousand times
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The rate of infection depends on viral load exposure and time exposed as well as the condition of the area one is being exposed to. there may be other factors.
Higher viral load lead to higher percentage that the exposed person will be infected.
similarly, the long the time the exposed person spend with the infected person the higher the chance.
enclosed area is more likely to result in infection than ventilated area.
more contagious just simply saying there is more percentage chance of getting the infection given the same conditions on the average.
I heard that it went from 2 or 3% three weeks ago to around 26% of the cases yesterday. And it’s been spreading quickly with younger people because older people are mostly vaccinated.
The real problem is that the 'vaccine', which isn't really a vaccine but in actuality is gene therapy, isn't very good at prophylaxis - blocking the virus from attacking you in the first place.
That's why so many people are getting it who've had their shots.
As far as the 'more contagious' goes, yeah I see your point. Consider it hyperbole.
"The real problem is that the 'vaccine', which isn't really a vaccine but in actuality is gene therapy, isn't very good at prophylaxis - blocking the virus from attacking you in the first place."
Atticus Finch, where did you get the above idea, you have to show us your sources. IMHO, you are reading too much social media, sources of lies and conspiracy theories. Or did you get the idea from the website you recommended us a few weeks ago?
First of all, are you referring to vaccines in general or the mRNA vaccines by Pfizer and Moderna?
I bet you were referring to the latter, am I correct?
The following article clears your thought;
"The Pfizer/BioNTech and Moderna Covid-19 vaccines are not gene therapy. Repeat, these
vaccines are not gene therapy. In fact, they don't really involve your genes, unless Gene
Simmons or Gene Hackman happen to be getting the vaccines"
But since I am not a scientist or any specialist in this field, you may want to ask NR for more explanation
PS mutations are always MORE contagious. I’d link many sources but there’s no point with dimwits like you that probably haven’t read longer than two paragraphs since high school
While the messenger RNA they employ is a type of genetic material, the vaccines differ from what is typically thought of as gene therapy in that they do not change the DNA inside cells. "They do not affect or interact with our DNA in any way," the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention explains.
Vaccine creates antibody for the virus we are trying to eliminate, not to change the gene itself.
You said you are an independent, but it seems to me that you are more acting as if you were a Republican/Trumpturd.
It looks like your irrational fears (covid vaccine is dangerous, or 202- presidential election was rigged)
are preventing you from understanding the facts and the reasons.
Get Covid vaccine, so that we can reach "herd immunity" Why do you think our economy was re-opened now, it is simply because the vaccines made infection and death rates lower, nothing else
Sorry to tell you this, but I’m fairly certain that my vacuum cleaner is smarter than you. There is no evidence of intelligence in any of your posts. Unfortunately, you’re too dumb to appreciate the risks and you and those like you will suffer the consequences.
Then you’ll say, “I’m only human. I was wrong.” No, you’re just an idiot.
I spoke with a doctor last week who said it’s a waste of time trying to save many of those who continue to refuse to get vaccinated. Some people are just going to suffer. There are numerous reports of people dying and expressing regret immediately before dying for not getting vaccinated.
@ rahcreer
Where did I get that the 2 vaccines more widely used i.e. phizer and gates' were gene therapy?
From an Interview of Dr. Robert Malone - the inventor of mRNA, by Brett Weinstein.
In the same interview Malone also pointed out that the lipid layer that's supposed to bind the spike protein part of the treatment to cells so that they stay localized doesn't - it breaks down. Because it breaks down it allows the spike proteins to be transferred throughout the body which can cause a number of serious complications.
As a rule I don't want to engage in the nonsense that unfolds in this sites' blog section, but I can't help myself in this case. Disregarding everything about COVID-19, do people not understand that diseases and strains vary in their transmission rate? Your likelihood of being infected from an exposure event varies depending on the contagion and the level of exposure. This shit ain't binary. It's discouraging that people don't even have a functionally equivalent starting vocabulary for this type of shit. Or is there a meta-game element of the Blogs where people just post anything that will start a discussion so their name shows up on the front page as free advertising? Clever if so.
@Mr Finch - your post claims “so many people are getting COVID who have been vaccinated.”
You appear to have a very liberal interpretation of the term “so many.”
As of the end of April, a little over 100 million Americans were fully vaccinated and about 10,000 of them had “breakthrough COVID infections. That is a 10th of a percent. Hardly qualifies as “so many.” In fact, it qualifies as “so few” because the clinical trial results predicted about a 5% rate of infection of those who were vaccinated. And stop with the bullshit right wing memes that it’s not a vaccine. It is, and it is not “gene therapy.” It does not alter your genes in any way, it gets your ribosomes to build an immune system response.
Simple Example if a person with covid-19 beta strain can infect 20 person out of 100 interactions and a person with covid-19 delta strain can infect 60 persons out of 100 interactions, then the delta strain is 200% more contagious.
Those who refuse to get a vaccine have volunteered to thin the bloodlines and make sure that idiots don’t breed and die off.
“ The nation's top infectious disease expert, Dr. Toni Fauci, noted that the available COVID-19 vaccines in the country work "quite well against this problematic variant."
"It's the unvaccinated people that we're concerned about," Fauci said, adding, "If they are unvaccinated, they are at risk."
You're absolutely right. Your simple example is an easy way to show the difference in the level of contagiousness.
@harpooner
Let's quote the actual CDC statistics so they know exactly how incredibly effective the vaccines are:
As of April 30, 2021, approximately 101 million persons in the United States had been fully vaccinated against COVID-19...
A total of 10,262 SARS-CoV-2 vaccine breakthrough infections had been reported from 46 U.S. states and territories as of April 30, 2021. Among these cases, 6,446 (63%) occurred in females, and the median patient age was 58 years (interquartile range = 40–74 years). Based on preliminary data, 2,725 (27%) vaccine breakthrough infections were asymptomatic, 995 (10%) patients were known to be hospitalized, and 160 (2%) patients died. Among the 995 hospitalized patients, 289 (29%) were asymptomatic or hospitalized for a reason unrelated to COVID-19. The median age of patients who died was 82 years (interquartile range = 71–89 years); 28 (18%) decedents were asymptomatic or died from a cause unrelated to COVID-19.
Summary:
101,000,000 vaccinated
19,262 break through cases (those who were vaccinated who tested positive for Covid)
995 were hospitalized
289 were asymptomatic or hospitalized for a reason other than Covid
160 patients died median age was 82); 28 of those who died were asymptomatic or died from something unrelated to Covid
Bottom line: The vaccine is incredibly safe and effective. And you're putting yourself at great risk if you don't get vaccinated.
I have ccr5 gene (extremely rare sometimes I feel like I’m the only one and truly am an alien) so I think it can’t get me anyways but I’m just saying for them to say MORE contagious is ridiculous.
"From an Interview of Dr. Robert Malone - the inventor of mRNA, by Brett Weinstein.
In the same interview Malone also pointed out that the lipid layer that's supposed to bind the spike protein part of the treatment to cells so that they stay localized doesn't - it breaks down. Because it breaks down it allows the spike proteins to be transferred throughout the body which can cause a number of serious complications"
I can not find the interview (transcript or video) unfortunately, but you have to prove that Dr Robert Malone (inventor of mNRA vaccines) actually said that these are "gene therapy"
And if the vaccine breaking down the spike proteins to tiny pieces and leaving them throughout the body causes serious complications is true, why did FDA approved them in the first place? Why is it that so many scientists/doctors are saying these vaccines are safe to use?
I don't know the detail as I said I am not an expert, probably NR may have answers for you
Rah, you can't bring science to some of these non-science believing cavemen, it's too scary being based on facts and all. They'd rather spit bs it's more comforting to them.
Mutations are not always more infectious, nor always less infectious. They're simply changes. Maybe the new mutation makes that variant bind with our bodies cells better, or less. Maybe they're smaller and more fit into our airways and get breathed in or out. Maybe the replicate themselves more quickly and efficiently or less. Viruses change all the time. The virologists trying to quickly study this new Delta variant aren't really sure yet, why, it's seems to be more infectious. And they're still trying to nail down just how much more infectious it is (30%?, 100%?). But certainly any mutation can make a virus either less or more infectious.
Didn’t you admit to catching covid and being put on a respirator for several days? You do realize doctors don’t put people on respirators unless they can’t breath on their own and are essentially near death?
I read that Trump’s doctors were debating on whether he should have been put on a respirator. Dumb fuck almost died. And even Trump got vaccinated in early January, yet the dumb fucks on this site are questioning whether they should get the shots.
Just wanna add my 2 cents.
up to 2 weeks ago i was not going to get vaxxed as i believe the vaxx carries side effect and potential heart problems and as it look california is near herd immunity so why take the risc...
that was until last week when i caught covid and have been feeling very shitty since.
not only is it two weeks of feeling crabby but there are serious long term post covid side effects.
kidney, heart, brain, nerve damage, brain fog.
TBH i dont think it was ever a slight cold as everyone kept saying.
now i know a handful of men around 50-55 yo, none of them had just a sniffle.
some are still suffering 4-5 months later, hopefully not me but sofar it doesnt look real good.
if i could go back i'd get vaxxed in a heartbeat... just do it, for yourself - protect yourself.
^ Sorry to hear that.
Question: Before taking the vax did you do any research into alternative treatments that been shown to be very effective both in prophylaxis and after presenting symptoms? Something like Ivermectin?
^ PLEASE! go to your doctor and tell him you want Ivermectin. If he argues with you direct him to the FLCCC web site, link below, and also do a search on utube for Darkhorse Podcast clips and look at the videos of Brett Weinstein interviewing Dr. Pierre Kory.
Ivermectin has shown that it's VERY effective against covid both to make you immune, prophylaxis, but also after you get it.
