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Jul 16 2021 11:22PM more by Wilzediam
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I'm double vaxed, so little worries for me. But while I respect freedom, individual decisions, etc., why should I give a shit about those that don't get their (easily available) vax?

I wear a mask now in public places in deference to those dipshits that haven't vaxed, because I am a deeply caring and thoughtful person. Why should I care? Let social Darwinism winnow out the dumb fucks...
      
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Lily4u
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Jul 17 2021 08:03AM     link to this

We all should carešŸ˜·
Schubert
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Jul 17 2021 08:59AM     link to this

The vaccines are readily available for free to anyone who wants them.

So I say f*ck the unvaxxed. Their body, their choice.
Engineer13
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Jul 17 2021 09:10AM     link to this

At this point let Darwinism take its role,
If you believe in the current scientific community and believe that the Vaccine is a safe and effective solution for you, Then you would have gotten it already.
If you have Vaccine doubts then nothing in this current climate of information/disinformation/opinionstatedasfact cesspool will persuade you otherwise.

Let ones life choices be the determine factor now.
Tools were developed and made available.
Facts, hypothesis, and opinions have been endlessly debated.
People made their choice as is our rights.

Let us now live with the outcomes of our individual choice.
jackrabbit33
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Jul 17 2021 09:14AM     link to this

If you have been vaxed then you shouldn't worry about what others do or dont do. PERIOD

The whole "but I still have to wear a mask because of others who are unvaccinated"... is total condescending bullshit.

It's that or the vaccines dont work and nobody should risk the side effects.

Shut you mouth and pick which reason why you shouldnt worry about others.

Wear a mask because you feel the need to virtue signal.
Reaper_1
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Jul 17 2021 09:59AM     link to this

Vaccinations or respirator? Your choice!
PSHorneycouple
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Jul 17 2021 10:03AM     link to this

Shouldn't everyone be allowed to have their reasons either for taking or not taking the Vax?
But why is it if their reasons don't fit your agenda then the OP is the problem?

It's evident that the vaccines will/do work for many. Theres also evidence that the Vax has done harm to others. Too many seamed to have gotten the Vax to shove it in others face that "they're" doing some grand gesture for everyone else's benefit. Get it because you believe it's good for you. Let the rest worry about themselves.

Reaper_1
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Jul 17 2021 10:06AM     link to this

Just get f%$king vaccinated. It's not that hard!!!!!
PSHorneycouple
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Jul 17 2021 10:29AM     link to this

It used to be "even one death from covid was too many". Now if you die after taking the Vax it's "oh well", you need to just get the f$@*king Vax.
Reaper_1
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Jul 17 2021 10:34AM     link to this

Ignorance is bliss on their part for not getting vaxxed.
PSHorneycouple
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Jul 17 2021 10:37AM     link to this

Ignorance is bliss being a sheep. Some will just do whatever they're told to do.
jackrabbit33
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Jul 17 2021 10:40AM     link to this

Again... each individual does what they feel is right for themselves and they respect others choices.

A working vaccine allows this.
NPembrush
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Jul 17 2021 10:46AM     link to this

Ok, let me get condescending and mansplain something to youz all.

See you take one virus and have it enter a host; once it starts replicating you get mutations. Most; if not a large portion of it gets nuked by the host because either the immune system did its job or it does too good a job and kills its host thus committing suicide. Sorta...

See now if some of it escapes those variations become spread out and become...more lethal, less lethal, more infectious..etc.

Now humanity as a whole will survive the virus. I mean we survived the black plague and we're still surviving it. Very few viruses and contagious diseases as a whole kill off entire species.

Keyword on killing of ENTIRE species. Dragging it down to almost extinction? Yeah. Will this one do it? No, not enough mechanics to do so. At least not that I've read.

So here comes along vaccines, designed to make everyone's life better. Kill off Polio, Measles, Mumps, Smallpox, Ebola... etc

BUT here's the deal if you don't vaccinate everyone or enough of everyone you get a variation that spreads and ignore the fucking vaccines and everyone becomes sick all over again. More people die.

Really what it all boils down to is that selfish asshole in all of us who really care about ourselves and maybe those around us. CHOICE. Meanwhile someone else might die? Do you care, does it impinge on your self interests?

ColossusJones
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Jul 17 2021 11:31AM     link to this


Thanos definitely has a point.

mildlyamusing1
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Jul 17 2021 01:49PM     link to this

There are many good posts in this blog already, but Iā€™ll add a few things:

People donā€™t understand that remaining unvaccinated will result in variants that will eventually kill both unvaccinated and vaccinated people. Scientists will develop booster shots to address the variants, but some people will die needlessly because of the selfishness and stupidity of unvaccinated people.

Smart people weigh their options to make better decisions:

The risk of death and complications from Covid infection is MUCH WORSE than the the risk of side effects from the vaccines. The analysis is that simple.

I donā€™t know a single smart person (I know dozens of doctors, lawyers, college professors, and engineers) who has not been vaccinated. EVERY SINGLE PERSON I KNOW HAS BEEN VACCINATED.

I also donā€™t know anyone who has had a side effect from the vaccine that lasted more than one or two days. Some feel a little tired the day after the second shot. Who gives a shit. The painless shot is protecting you from potential death.



Apparently the Biden administration is trying to get Fox News (Rupert Murdock is vaccinated) and Trump (who is vaccinated and his entire family is vaccinated) to start telling their dipshit followers to get vaccinated. I hope it works for their sake.

mildlyamusing1
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Jul 17 2021 01:55PM     link to this

ā€œEven if you are vaxed you can still het the ronaā€


That is true. But the vaccine isnā€™t necessarily meant to prevent you from catching Covid, it is meant to prevent you from being hospitalized and dying from it.

Nearly 100% of the current deaths from Covid are unvaccinated people. Think about that and use some logic in your analysis.
socaliam
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Jul 17 2021 01:58PM     link to this

Most businesses' mask requirements are for those who aren't vaxed.



Oh, and the second one undid the first one. Gaaa!
Reaper_1
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Jul 17 2021 03:07PM     link to this

If those clowns out there who don't want to get vaccinated. Fine! Just let them die off.
Reaper_1
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Jul 17 2021 03:08PM     link to this

IGNORANCE = DEATH!
Reaper_1
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Jul 17 2021 03:19PM     link to this

Just too many selfish and inconsiderate assholes in society who only think about themselves.
PSHorneycouple
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Jul 17 2021 04:08PM     link to this

If only there was an equal push to test alternative treatments for those that have chosen not to be be part of an experimental vaccine trial.
Oh right! Theres not billions of $$$ to be made on out of date drugs that have been proven to be effective as both a prophylactic and a symptom reliever.
Since the vaxx is readily available and the government is never going to be able to force it on everyone, work with other methods that will help in gaining immunity for everyone. That includes those who are "not as smart" as the rest of the vaxed.
GinaGalaxy
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Jul 17 2021 04:39PM     link to this

What should I do?

I had covid / tested postive for covid antibodies, which are just as strong as the vacc antibodies up to 7 months.

New studies show if i get reinfected with the virus after my antibodies are gone, my body will reproduce antibodies again from the --- B-Memory cells...

Also, when I had covid- I was not that sick, and lost just my sense of smell, and wildly continued to lose 30lbs of weight. (yay)

I am not sure if i need a vaccine for something that did not make me sick, and if i get sick again, im ok with getting sick, if it is at even possible to get sick as i have antibodies.

I have always respected social distancing, and wearing a mask when mandated and necessary, especially if im around elderly people more prone.

We also know people that got the vaccine still do get covid, just not as severe? right?
shorter life of symptoms, and less likely to be hospitalized.

I comment here just from a informative stance how my logic, and welcome any info/facts so I can still make a decision. I have decided to do the vaccine, when absolutely necessary or if it calls to be vaccinated when traveling etc.

I have travelled allot during covid- 20k mile road trip and 7 trips to vegas this year and have yet been sick.

I should do another antibody test. Though I could have had covid a 2nd or 3rd time since I had it, and showed no symptoms but maybe banked new antivodies.



As we know even the common cold has coronavirus, we were just never educated this far into common illness and medicine and science as a society, so we act like its new, but its not.

I know many lives lost, and ill from Covid-19 so im not saying its not a serious disease.

However, I am the ruler of my life.

People with the vaccine can get covid be a-symptomatic and pass it on as well?

so shouldnt we have home test that is super cheap like a dollar? and just be testing ourselves more? isnt it the test that shows the scale of infection and who can infect...




anyhow..........thankz
Waterdisport22
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Jul 17 2021 05:29PM     link to this

And ALL of this for .04%

SMFH
dblednmike
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Jul 17 2021 05:47PM     link to this

VAERs reported a little over 6k deaths after a vaccination. Thatā€™s after 334 million vaccinations. They are also very clear that the reporting does not list a cause, just that there was a death following a vaccination. The death could have been completely unrelated to the vaccine. Look at any group of 334 million people and there are bound to be people that just happened to die that day. Thats just common sense.

In the end, the only people that Iā€™m concerned for are those that canā€™t get the vaccine, because it hasnā€™t been approved for them or they are LEGITIMATELY unable to because of a health concern. Other than that no ones changing their mind at this point. Open it up and let it be. If only the unvaxed are getting it then hopefully they all get it quickly, with limited symptoms, so we can starve this thing out.
PSHorneycouple
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Jul 17 2021 05:52PM     link to this

@ginagalaxy
@Waterdisport22

Well put, but just shows too much rational thinking for the new world order. We're just supposed to shut up and do what we're told.

Seams to be a lot of that nowadays. "Just believe what we tell you as the truth". Who's truth is it though?
Atticus_Finch
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Jul 17 2021 06:01PM     link to this

'If only there was an equal push to test alternative treatments for those that have chosen not to be be part of an experimental vaccine trial.
Oh right! Theres not billions of $$$ to be made on out of date drugs that have been proven to be effective as both a prophylactic and a symptom reliever.'

BINGO!

If the government, and everyone else, were REALLY worried about 'herd immunity' you'd think they'd be using EVERYTHING at their disposal that has been proven to work against this particular virus like Hydroxychloroquin, which was dragged through the mud until it was 'miraculously' found to be effective and Ivermectin which has also been found to be effective - India mandated it's use and the HUGE spike they're were undergoing dropped. DRAMATICALLY.
Both of those, as well as other 'alternative treatments' have been targeted by government agencies - fda, nih,niaid, cdc and every social media site for censorship.
Amazingly only half the country is asking why that is - 'Herd' is the right word for all those following along without asking any questions about it.
Remember to graze in a group.

Add to that that the guy who actually invented/discovered the mRNA platform, Dr. Robert Malone, has come out and said he doesn't trust these vaccines.
Guess he's an idiot as well?

Atticus Finch
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Jul 17 2021 06:30PM     link to this

"If you have been vaxed then you shouldn't worry about what others do or dont do. PERIOD
The whole "but I still have to wear a mask because of others who are unvaccinated"... is total condescending bullshit."

I must say this is a typical nonchalant Republican statement, totally forgetting about the fact that this is a community disease. That is one reason that we can not get rid of this virus any sooner.

imzomnia
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Jul 17 2021 08:07PM     link to this

This is from W.H.O.
"The COVID-19 vaccines produce protection against the disease, as a result of developing an immune response to the SARS-Cov-2 virus. Developing immunity through vaccination means there is a reduced risk of developing the illness and its consequences. This immunity helps you fight the virus if exposed. Getting vaccinated may also protect people around you, because if you are protected from getting infected and from disease, you are less likely to infect someone else. This is particularly important to protect people at increased risk for severe illness from COVID-19, such as healthcare providers, older or elderly adults, and people with other medical conditions."
PeteMalloy
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Jul 17 2021 08:15PM     link to this

I have always trusted Pfizer and the Mayo Clinic on healthcare and Pharmaceutical information...



I advocate that you do get vaccinated, and insist upon Pfizer...



If you choose not to follow through with the advice from experts at the Mayo Clinic and a 100 + year old Pharma company like Pfizer, that is your God given right as a citizen of the USA and 100% your choice...



Here are two links to the World Health Organization and the Mayo Clinic --- with their words of wisdom...
Attached Links
https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019?adgroupsurvey={adgroupsurvey}&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIuerfv9Lr8QIVmB6tBh3BzgUoEAAYAiAAEgKJq_D_BwE
https://www.mayoclinic.org/coronavirus-covid-19/public-guidance
TheAlterEgo
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Jul 17 2021 08:17PM     link to this

Pete youā€™re not doctor simp
PeteMalloy
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Jul 17 2021 08:20PM     link to this

No, but I played one on the TV series Emergency
TheAlterEgo
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Jul 17 2021 08:22PM     link to this

Simp
PeteMalloy
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Jul 17 2021 08:30PM     link to this

^ You really need the Vax Ego --- You just NASTY --- Calculating all of those just in time inventory and production numbers all day in that sweat box your company provides for you... Only our Creator knows what lurks in those walls and drop ceiling in your office...
TheAlterEgo
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Jul 17 2021 08:35PM     link to this

Lol Pete JIT terminology lmao

Pete go watch the Miesha Tate fight
NPembrush
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Jul 17 2021 10:17PM     link to this

"I'm not anti-vaxx"
...and refs a site that's got so much anti-vaxx diatribe the bullshit is enough to make a virologist keel over.
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Jul 17 2021 10:49PM     link to this


@Waterdisport22 --- you're an idiot !
AFMadness
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Jul 17 2021 11:05PM     link to this

It is not a true Vaccine.

It is a first of it's kind an mRNA gene therapy shot.

Now you can have Pigs, Dogs and Sheep all in one shot. Oh Album
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Nuremberg Code (Directives for Human Experimentation)
The Nuremberg Military Tribunals decision in the case of the United States v Karl Brandt et al. includes what is now called the Nuremberg Code, a ten point statement delimiting permissible medical experimentation on human subjects. According to this statement, humane experimentation is justified only if its results benefit society and it is carried out in accord with basic principles that satisfy moral, ethical, and legal concepts. To some extent the Nuremberg Code has been superseded by the Declaration of Helsinki as a guide for human experimentation.
Permissible Medical Experiments. Trials of War Criminals before the Nuremberg Military Tribunals under Control Council Law No. 10. Nuremberg October 1946 April 1949, Washington. U.S. Government Printing Office (n.d.), vol. 2., pp. 181-182.

1. The voluntary consent of the human subject is absolutely essential. This means that the person involved should have legal capacity to give consent; should be situated as to be able to exercise free power of choice, without the intervention of any element of force, fraud, deceit, duress, over-reaching, or other ulterior form of constraint or coercion, and should have sufficient knowledge and comprehension of the elements of the subject matter involved as to enable him to make an understanding and enlightened decision. This latter element requires that before the acceptance of an affirmative decision by the experimental subject there should be made known to him the nature, duration, and purpose of the experiment; the method and means by which it is to be conducted; all inconveniences and hazards reasonably to be expected; and the effects upon his health or person which may possibly come from his participation in the experiment. The duty and responsibility for ascertaining the quality of the consent rests upon each individual who initiates, directs or engages in the experiment. It is a personal duty and responsibility which may not be delegated to another with impunity.

2. The experiment should be such as to yield fruitful results for the good of society, unprocurable by other methods or means of study, and not random and unnecessary in nature.

3. The experiment should be so designed and based on the results of animal experimentation and a knowledge of the natural history of the disease or other problem under study that the anticipated results will justify the performance of the experiment.

4. The experiment should be so conducted as to avoid all unnecessary physical and mental suffering and injury.

5. No experiment should be conducted where there is an a priori reason to believe that death or disabling injury will occur; except, perhaps, in those experiments where the experimental physicians also serve as subjects.

6. The degree of risk to be taken should never exceed that determined by the humanitarian importance of the problem to be solved by the experiment.

7. Proper preparations should be made and adequate facilities provided to protect the experimental subject against even remote possibilities of injury disability or death.

8. The experiment should be conducted only by scientifically qualified persons. The highest degree of skill and care should be required through all stages of the experiment of those who conduct or engage in the experiment.

9. During the course of the experiment the human subject should be at liberty to bring the experiment to an end if he has reached the physical or mental state where continuation of the experiment seems to him to be impossible.

10. During the course of the experiment the scientist in charge must be prepared to terminate the experiment at any stage, if he has probable cause to believe, in the exercise of the good faith, superior skill and careful judgment required by him that a continuation of the experiment is likely to result in injury, disability, or death to the experimental subject.

From; https://www.marshall.edu/ori/nuremberg-code-directives-for-human-experimentation
Waterdisport22
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Jul 17 2021 11:10PM     link to this

@Golf

Nice.......intelligent.

How long did it take you to type that amount of intelligence.

Probably LONGER than it did for you to roll up your sleeve to get your shot.

Wish you well in the coming years my friend.


Nice to also see you read the LINK supplied and I bet you also down loaded the Pfizer study to verify the article....NOT.

You are lazy. And sheep get slaughtered.

Btw...earlier comments regarding how great Pfizer is and WHO...or even our CDC.

Ok....does NOT the article I provided show EMPIRICALLY how Pfizer plays loose and fast with the facts.

When YOU can not argue the facts.....then ALL you have are PERSONAL ATTACKS.

Guess what...YOU LOSE.


Also...does not Fauci own emails stated masks do NOT work.

Now somebody mentioned N95.....well they only work 30-60% of the time.

What? How is that. They are suppose to be 95% of the time.

1. Fit. If not fitted correctly they are not as effective.

2. One time use. They are designed for ONE TIME USE. Period. Each time your hand touches the mask it lowers the efficiency of it.

Recommend that you all get off your butts and do a little research.....and btw the CDC...WHO....and Pfizer are NOT good sources.

SMFH......all this for .04%



R2d26
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Jul 17 2021 11:27PM     link to this

Didnā€™t a bunch of you losers get women pergo because it was more fun

Not to get protection.

Well maybe itā€™s your turn this time around to get something too.
YourCaptain
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Jul 18 2021 01:24AM     link to this

In America

Asians get vaccinated at a higher rate than any other race. African Americans get vaccinated at the lowest rates and Black's aren't a huge part of Fox News demographics.

The least educated states have the lowest vaccination rates.

Politics don't explain the vaccination rates in America as well as Darwinism does.

Thinning the herd is exactly what the planet needs. As humans get smarter nature has to work a little harder to cull the weakest links. Stand by for some covid mutations that will test our ability to rapidly deploy appropriate booster vaccines.
mildlyamusing1
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Jul 18 2021 01:52AM     link to this

@ racistdipshit

Letā€™s dissect your post (my comments are in ALL CAPS):

In America

Asians get vaccinated at a higher rate than any other race. African Americans get vaccinated at the lowest rates and Black's aren't a huge part of Fox News demographics.

The least educated states have the lowest vaccination rates.

THE LEAST EDUCATED STATES ARE RED STATES, WHOSE POPULATIONS ARE PREDOMINANTLY FOX NEWS VIEWERS.

THE BLACK POPULATION IS WARY OF THE VACCINE BECAUSE DOCTORS IN THE UNITED STATES HAVE HISTORICALLY EXPERIMENTED ON BLACK PEOPLE BY TESTING MEDICATIONS, INTENTIONALLY WITHHOLDING TREATMENTS TO INFECTED BLACK PEOPLE WITH DISEASES TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS TO THEM, ETC., SO THEIR FEAR OF BEING VACCINATED IS JUSTIFIED AND INDEPENDENT OF THEIR POLITICAL AFFILIATION.

Politics don't explain the vaccination rates in America as well as Darwinism does.

ā€œDOESN'Tā€ EXPLAIN, YOU DUMB FUCK.

Thinning the herd is exactly what the planet needs. As humans get smarter nature has to work a little harder to cull the weakest links. Stand by for some covid mutations that will test our ability to rapidly deploy appropriate booster vaccines.

THINNING THE HERD SHOULD START WITH YOU, YOU IGNORANT PIECE OF SHIT.
mildlyamusing1
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Jul 18 2021 01:55AM     link to this

Letā€™s hope most of you, no matter what color you are, get vaccinated because it is the right thing to do based on scientific data. It is safer for you to get vaccinated than to catch Covid.
Angler1
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Jul 18 2021 05:11AM     link to this

Right thing to do...

Please take your booster for every variant.
MissTaylorChase
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Jul 18 2021 06:41AM     link to this

I live by the same rule in life, business and here:
It's survival of the fittest out here. Weak is weak. And not getting vaccinated renders your ass weak so buh bye
NPembrush
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Jul 18 2021 10:39AM     link to this

People get ad hominem the moment you call "you all are sheep" that *all* part means you went in swinging.
Of course I had a crappy week so I wanted to start a bar fight anyways. Well a virtual one anyways; a real bar fight can suck.
NPembrush
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Jul 18 2021 10:42AM     link to this

Closing: They are vaccines. Jeeze. Look up the definition.
*snaps fingers*
Hmmm Damn. Oh well.
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