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AFMadness
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Locked. No further comments permitted.British Gov t Warns COVID Vaccine-Induced Mutations May Kill
Aug 2 2021 10:10AM more by AFMadness
Tags: Orange County, Current Events (All tags)

Orders 3 million lbs of anti-coagulant ?
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British Govt Warns COVID Vaccine-Induced Mutations May Kill, How many people ?
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Is that right... Are you going to hear more bout ADE ? Anti-Body Dependent Enhancement

Gee, what do you think they know that you are not being told ?
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Atticus_Finch
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Aug 2 2021 11:12AM     link to this

Tons!

Deaths caused by the vax's aren't being reported/recorded as caused by the vax's but as due to covid.

Or that the vax's might be driving the mutations.

Atticus Finch
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Night-Rider
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Aug 2 2021 01:11PM     link to this

The above comments are misrepresentation of the facts, but go ahead, cherry pick snipers of information to fit your politics.
Night-Rider
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Aug 2 2021 01:17PM     link to this

Instead of reading garbage sources that misrepresent what’s been said, linked to this are the actual documents written by the British scientists.
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https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1007573/S1332_How_long_will_vaccines_continue_to_protect_against_COVID-19.pdf
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1007566/S1335_Long_term_evolution_of_SARS-CoV-2.pdf
Night-Rider
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Aug 2 2021 01:34PM     link to this

It’s only natural that the virus will gain mutations that make today’s vaccines obsolete. We see this in influenza. What do we do? We update the vaccines, like we do for influenza!

VAERS reports problems associated in time with vaccines. This is very different than problems CAUSED by vaccines. After reported, these problems are carefully monitored by scientists in the FDA and CDC to see if there is a real connection. So far, there have been connections made with rare blood clots in the brain in women less than 45 years of age in adenovirus vaccines, rare cases of heart inflammation in young men by mRNA vaccines, and rare instances of Guillain-Barré syndrome due to J&J vaccines. It is safe to say if you are a younger woman, consider taking only the mRNA vaccines, and if you are a young man, consider taking only one shot of the vaccine to reduce risk.
Night-Rider
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Aug 2 2021 01:42PM     link to this

The vaccines are definitely not perfect at all, but they are not the nightmares some people for
some reason want you to believe.
LuckyGixxer
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Aug 2 2021 01:51PM     link to this

So .. question for those who think that all Republicans .. and especially those who voted for Trump .. are anti-vaxxers.

LA County Registered Electorate is approx 6.2 Million People. -- only 17% are registered Republicans. Overwhelming majority of cases are coming from lower income and inner city areas.
* Fact- only 45.6 Black/AFA are even partially vaccinated
* Fact - only 54.5% of Latins are partially vaccinated

In California
* Latins account for over 55% of the cases and 46% of Deaths - But only 38.9% of the population
* Blacks account for only 4.6% of the cases, 6.4% of Deaths and represent 6% of the population
* Whites account for 20.4% of cases, 31.4% of Deaths and represent 36.6% of the populations

So again ... why is this a Republican thing? I love all of you Diversity, Equity and Inclusion warriors who make it a daily habit of marginalizing and generalizing those who dont look or think like you.
Angler1
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Aug 2 2021 02:28PM     link to this

" It is safe to say if you are a younger woman, consider taking only the mRNA vaccines, and if you are a young man, consider taking only one shot of the vaccine to reduce risk".


Or don't take the shot if you are healthy!
MrBlkSD69
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Aug 2 2021 03:21PM     link to this

Knightrider- if the republinazis don't realize that they are killing off their own base with all the misinformation and denial of facts, why not just let them?? The world will be a better place, one at a time. 😛
elvis1
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Aug 2 2021 04:23PM     link to this

Alex Jones.. enough said. Please don't get the vaccine, I know 8 knuckleheads who are anti- vaxxers, 4 currently infected and very sick, 4 to go.
Night-Rider
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Aug 2 2021 07:40PM     link to this

“It’s only natural that the virus will gain mutations that make today’s vaccines obsolete.”

This statement I made actually isn’t entirely correct. This is probable but not 100%, and will less likely affect protection against severe disease. And boosters would fix this.

Look at those links I provided for more info.
LuckyGixxer
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Aug 2 2021 08:47PM     link to this

TheBronx

Funny thing is .. you could ask that exact same question of LA and Calfornia Department of Public Health .. and get pretty much the same ratio. Bunch of government lackeys one and all .. trying to keep their jobs
IMNventR
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Aug 2 2021 08:56PM     link to this

I am taking the advice of a doctor. Namely, my brother's family doctor. He's an immunologist. He's advised my brother NOT to take the jab. The reasons: mRNA vaccines may have severe long-term autoimmune side-effects due to saturation of the body with spike proteins. Furthermore, your natural immune system is low-specificity but wide-spectrum, and thus can provide at least some protection against a broad range of infectious agents. There is a possibility that the anti-China virus vaccines may produce an immune system that is high-specificity (against said virus), but narrow-spectrum. Result: less protection against many other infectious agents.

This doctor is not affiliated with the CDC or any other government agency, nor with Big Pharma. I believe him. I do NOT believe the CDC. Their credibility is ZERO as far as I'm concerned.

When these vaccines are PROVEN safe, I will reconsider.
GoBallsDeep
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Aug 2 2021 09:02PM     link to this

"Knightrider- if the republinazis don't realize that they are killing off their own base with all the misinformation and denial of facts, why not just let them?? The world will be a better place, one at a time. 😛"

"^ Absofrickenlutely"

Just 2 posts up from these idiots, they were given LA stats about who's dying, which they simply ignored, lol

Perfect examples of your super-smart woke Prog
You cannot make this shit up
Dumb fucks

AFMadness
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Aug 2 2021 11:37PM     link to this

Head of Baylor Medical School Confirms Covid-19 Vaccine is Deadly, At a Senate Hearing, March 5th 2020. Ok... Plus Robert Malone.
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reddon
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Aug 3 2021 01:59AM     link to this

I am a scientist .Let me say, dig deep.. Be careful of propaganda..Always question what seems deception...Freedom of speech is very important. We all have opinions..In that said ,what are the strongest emotions humans have? FEAR..Has there been any type of fear being manipulated.?.Answer that question,Last year did the media use fear.. Does the advertisement of the virus use fear.. words like death,.Everybodies s dying,.who s dying?..Dying is inevitable.Is so many people dying that the freeways are clear. there's nobody in the streets.Who s dying..People die every day..Breaking news.. people are finally dying,,No more living for a thousand years .See how absurd it sounds...Here"s Science.If you have contracted Sars 2 or Covid..you've already been vaccinated naturally.. You're immune system is amazing.THere's so many disagreements. When people are manipulated by fear, remember fear is the most powerful emotion..It can over power your thoughts,it can overcome the strongest part of your intelligence..Vaccines have not been tested..they are being tested on you.. Understand, they say it s a 100% effective but you can still contract the virus..How is that possible.. Science says if it s 100% you should not contract the virus..if it doesn t make sense investigate. Don t be persuaded by someone writing a article..where s the science. show proof..anyone can write a article about how this works. Is it true?Science can also be wrong..Remember. freedom of speech .Respect everyone's opinions..People are mostly smart.They just don't have the right information or don't have the time to dig deep..
Atticus_Finch
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Aug 3 2021 03:28AM     link to this

I have 3 masters all in engineering and have worked as a research assistant. I also regularly attend conferences and symposiums dealing with subjects I'm interested in such as string theory, quantum mechanics, fractal geometry etc.

I'm NOT a repub, dem, far right or far left.

I'm NOT an 'anti vaxer' I AM anti covid vax, at least until there is more evidence that they're safe - there isn't and data that shows there may be significant risk from using them is being censored.
Also being censored is any data on alternative treatments from repurposed drugs such as Ivermectin, Hydroxychloroquin that show their effectiveness against covid or treatments developed by doctors that support a persons natural immune system that have also been shown to be effective.
The only reasonable conclusion for this is that if data were to show that these alternative treatments were just as if not more effective treatments all covid vaccines would lose their 'emergency use authorization' leading to phizer, moderna etc losing billions of dollars.

I have talked to a few doctors before making the decision not to take the vax most of them opted out of taking the vax, my own personal doctor who I've been seeing for over 20 years opted out as well, some citing it's because the mRNA platform is a very new technology and expect some 'glitches' before it's perfected, about 4 years since invention/discovery, others because the vax's do NOT remain localized as vaccines are supposed to do, but travel throughout the body and because the spike proteins they produce are toxic. They ALL are concerned about the tests and trials that the production of the vaxs' skipped in their rush to get to the market - some of those last several years in the search for harmful side effects.

None of them are associated with the any government agency - cdc etc.

I no longer have any faith in fda, nih, niaih or the cdc. Who have become nothing but an arm of big pharma and seem to have abrogated their main function of keeping the public safe and healthy.

Atticus Finch
Waterdisport22
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Aug 3 2021 07:32AM     link to this

Finch....do not forget the WHO as well.

Its begs the question folks....WHY WHY is the GOV so sooooo fervent about us getting it.

I mean its out of control now.

Seriously.

And do NOT tell me its to protect lives. From a virus where 99.997% people survive.

Nope does not make sense what so ever. NEVER has the us done this for the flu. EVER.

In 1976 during swine flu 55 people died from the vax. The GOV stopped it.

NOW......have approximately 20k have died from the jab and still going strong.

Hell...there are MORE murders this last month in Chicago....NYC....Philly.....than died from covid in each city.

So what the frick is going on!!

Now NYC is saying without vax you can NOT go to a business.

This is MORE than a desire to save lives....a lot more.

Keep pushing it folks......a civil war is ticking closer and closer to happening.

The divisiveness I have NEVER seen in my life.

flash911
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Aug 3 2021 08:07AM     link to this

Good comment Water ^^

Here is a pretty good / non-scientific Twitter thread on the whole topic:

https://twitter.com/KonstantinKisin/status/1422181548569333764
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Rahcrener
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Aug 3 2021 08:39AM     link to this

@Atticus Finch

I don't know whether or not your claiming you are have three masters in engineering is true or not, and even if you are honest, that does not make yourself an expert on medical engineering or on immunology.

Following your anti-vax statements in the past on Covid vaccines, and your tendency to grab any claims or conspiracy theories whether they derived from social media or other scientists regarding your agenda on the danger of the vaccines, makes your credibility even more less.

You claim you are an independent thinker and "Atticus Finch" of HX, and that you are not anti-vaxxer and you insist on drug treatment (you included Hydroxychloroquin, which had been already rejected by WHO and other doctors as "ineffective and may be dangerous" to covid patients last year), but your past postings were enough to prove that you are more leaned towards right, and you are not really "fair and just" Atticus Finch that you claimed yourself to be.

First of all, your conspiracy theory that covid vaccine is driving variants are flatly wrong. One of the Covid vaccines purpose is to stop the virus to mutate, the more the virus is rampant, the more space to produce another variant. UK variant and Delta variant were born on the days of almost no vaccines, remember? Mutation occurs when the virus replicates itself BY ACCIDENT.

And your insistence on the danger of mRNA vaccines and the use of drug treatment does not make any sense either especially when we all know that Johnson Johnson vaccine and Astrozeneca vaccine (though it was not emergencyt-approved in the US yet) are not based on the technology. So why do you still insist on ditching all the vaccines and solely rely on drug treatments as if mRNA vaccines are the only ones that are available on the market? As Fauci said, if we have pills that resolve everything, we would have already done that, because the vaccines comes with more side effects.

As for the main reasons that the current infection is rampant is clearly caused by Republican states. As Wallensky correctly put it, this surge of infection was caused by those who are not vaccinated. Just look at the rampant infection that spread all over the US, and they are ALL red states, which have lower 30-40% vaccination rates. And the idiot governor such as DeSantis and dictator Abott still insist no mandate for masking. It is OK to insist on individual freedom, but is it still considered as freedom and if you are unknowingly or knowingly spread the virus to OTHERS, and may kill them at the end? This is getting really ridiculous argument on blasted Republican parts.
Rahcrener
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Aug 3 2021 08:41AM     link to this

To discredit what Atticus Finch claims, read this article; No evidence COVID-19 vaccines create new virus variants
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flash911
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Aug 3 2021 08:59AM     link to this

Rach, watch out for the AP. They reported Cape Canaveral Hospital full and video evidence yesterday showed it empty. Just sayin' ...

Iceland I believe is 100% vaccinated so how does anyone explain the vaccinated now developing Covid? ADE ... ?

And why would we still call it a Vax when it does not prevent the virus, and has no inert virus remnant in it to drive up antibodies?
NPembrush
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Aug 3 2021 09:31AM     link to this

So does too much or not enough sunlight do this to the brain.

Maybe it's the Cheetos; that one that fell to the floor but you decided to eat anyway.

Decades later you lament...that dammed Cheeto.

or maybe it was the Funyon.
almaplacida1
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Aug 3 2021 10:03AM     link to this

Do as I say not as I do.
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Rahcrener
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Aug 3 2021 10:05AM     link to this

@Flash911

I don't need your advice, first of all, why do you think that our infection rates went far down after 50% of US population got fully vaccinated before another variant Delta took over the new infection on unvaccinated people.

By the way you are too slick to avoid my question, did you or did you not get vaccinated?

Accepting covid vaccination is already a moral imperative, do you accept it even if you unknowingly infected your fellow Americans and destroy his or her family members, or do you still insist your personal freedom above all?

Here is an excellent speech by Matthew Dowd here; https://www.msnbc.com/deadline-white-house/watch/-country-over-party-founder-matthew-dowd-says-attacks-on-voting-are-the-fundamental-issue-of-our-time-114168901682

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Rahcrener
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Aug 3 2021 10:08AM     link to this

That was a wrong link;
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theGentlman
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Aug 3 2021 11:29AM     link to this

so, the ones that came out quickly, apparently had more "side effects" , etc. moderna , pfizer.

anyone do any serious research on these "companies"..... bet you can't anymore... c:

though, the J&J didn't have side effects? did it? or they just "say", to beware of "possible side effects from all of the vaccines"....

I, should have paid attention in biology. damn! c:
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flash911
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Aug 3 2021 12:12PM     link to this

Breakthrough Case = Vax doesn't work
theGentlman
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Aug 3 2021 12:40PM     link to this

but a healthy lifestyle greatly reduces the risk of contracting virus(s).... & don't worry about those cows. they are just upset because someone took their milk & babies.... it is not anthrax.... c:
flash911
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Aug 3 2021 12:56PM     link to this

and Rach, GTFO with stalking me to post my personal medical info in a pub blog.

What did you call me the other day? God Complex or some shit? You are a sick dude.
flash911
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Aug 3 2021 01:39PM     link to this

Epoch Times reports nearly 400 children between ages 12 - 17 have permanent heart damage from the Vax. In the past this would've stopped the experimental human trails in its tracks.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/cdc-397-children-suffered-heart-inflammation-after-covid-19-vaccine_3928019.html
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Harpooner
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Aug 3 2021 01:44PM     link to this

Some of the comments here are mind boggling. Somebody actually said the vaccine does not work. I wonder how they explain that over 97% of current hospitalizations and over 99% of current COVID deaths are unvaccinated people. Fuck, you people are dumb as dirt.
Atticus_Finch
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Aug 3 2021 02:03PM     link to this

Yup. All of you are correct - that vax works like a charm.

Atticus Finch
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theGentlman
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Aug 3 2021 02:25PM     link to this

isn't it like, yea, you will still get the flu, you just won't die. oh, I mean, covid.. sorry
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Aug 3 2021 02:59PM     link to this

I’m just waiting on the side here for the naysayers to rot from the inside and then taste some brimstone.

Carry on.
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Aug 3 2021 03:27PM     link to this

So I should eat the Funyuns instead.
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Aug 3 2021 03:30PM     link to this

@Flash 911

Yes I still call you the same as long as you refuse to answer my question, and this is the fourth time I am asking in public;

Did you or did you not get vaccinated for Covid?

If you can not answer my question, you are nothing but a lying bastard, and a laughing stock
Rahcrener
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Aug 3 2021 03:34PM     link to this

Another laughing stock and propagandist, Atticus Finch, don't you think if you are telling the truth about the abundant of deaths caused by Covid vaccines, their families should have started class action lawsuits against manufacturers of vaccines or against the government who approved for emergency use? Use your brain and you should come up with a simple answer
Rahcrener
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Aug 3 2021 04:18PM     link to this

I apologize for the third time in a row in my posting, but a NYC now requires people to show proof of Covid vaccination, and this may be a difficult path, but it is the right direction due to the fact that people are so reluctant to get vaccinated, partly because of the disinformation you see above and everywhere in the world right now.

"New York City will soon start requiring people to show proof of coronavirus vaccinations for indoor activities such as dining and working out at gyms, Mayor Bill de Blasio announced Tuesday, making it the first major U.S. city to implement such a policy."

"New York's requirement is similar to programs recently adopted in France, Germany and Italy, and represents one of the most aggressive moves to date by a major U.S. city to control the surge of infections. The hyper-transmissible delta variant is driving up infections in every state, creating a new sense of urgency to ramp up immunizations before the latest wave of infections and hospitalizations gets worse."

"The NYC Hospitality Alliance, a trade group representing more than 24,000 restaurants and nightlife establishments, called the policy "far from ideal" but said it could ultimately benefit the city's businesses."

"Mandating vaccine requirements for restaurant and bar employees and customers to work and dine indoors is a very difficult step," Andrew Rigie, the group's executive director, said in a statement. But it "may prove an essential move to protecting public health and ensuring that New York City does not revert to restrictions and shut down orders that would again absolutely devastate small businesses that have not yet recovered from the pandemic."

Personally, I have been to movie theaters and a gym, but the mask mandate is not enforced in the strict sense, and I already suggested those companies to follow the requirement of showing vaccination ID
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remo_williams
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With respect to autoimmunity and mRNA vaccines (including the spike protein), the literature mostly is concerned with the effect on those who have autoimmune disease. This is the main concern; however, in safety trials of an mRNA vaccine, severe adverse events in those with autoimmune disease did not seem to exceed that of other regular vaccinations. Among a minority of scientists, there is.a continued concern for the general population, and I have a link to the most complete scientific article on this subject.

I should like to note that the same autoimmune problems, but even more so, would occur with the virus itself, as the article points out.
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It is also NOT TRUE that information is being censored. You are free to examine all the data on Covid vaccines, ivermectin, and hydroxychloroquine on the internet.
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^
Not as bad as your fuhrer did the last four years to destroy Democracy to establish his Autocracy. Covid is a health and community issue, not to be confused with political one that you prefer to claim it to be

Your hero Tucker Carlson is visiting his white-supremacist/hero Victor Oran in Hungary to praise his Authoritarian politics and his anti-immigration policies this week, and I am sure you already started peeing in your pants for your excitement
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that meant for remo williams
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