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Aug 15 2021 04:08AM more by Night-Rider
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I’m watching us evacuate the US embassy in Kabul with helicopters.

Where have we seen this before?

What our wonderful intelligence agencies said should happen in 30-90 days has happened in less than a week.

Bob Gates was right about Biden.

Call this clusterfuck exhibit A.
      
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Aug 15 2021 04:42AM     link to this

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Aug 15 2021 04:51AM     link to this

I’m criticizing the fact that this withdrawal was badly botched more than the fact we are having one.
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Aug 15 2021 07:43AM     link to this

maybe china will move into our ~700m embassy


Plans to expand the U.S. Embassy in Kabul, Afghanistan, will run $150 million over budget and run 2 years behind schedule, according to a report from the Government Accountability Office released Tuesday.

As of May 2014, construction costs have increased 24 percent from the original $625.4 million projection to $773.9 million, the report found. The project, expected to be completed by the end of this summer, now likely won't be done until July 2016.
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Aug 15 2021 07:54AM     link to this

Joe is a complete and total clusterfuck. Harris is in hiding and does nothing. We invest $88B over 20 years and the place collapsed in less than 30 days.

What I find shameful is the Taliban have taken a lot of US military equipment like helicopters.

These Democrats have *** ZERO *** FUCKING *** CLUE *** as to how anything gets done.
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Aug 15 2021 08:06AM     link to this

pretty sad...feel for the woman there

thought i read where one of the citizens there was going to set himself on fire in front of the embassy... his prospects going forward were not much better

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Aug 15 2021 08:09AM     link to this

Sherkahn and his amazing intellect are about to post: "It's all Trump's fault. Biden has nothing to do with this. You all are just haters."
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Aug 15 2021 08:57AM     link to this

That's the problem with democrats. They have no problem spending trillions of dollars to line the pockets of their cronies who run the military-industrial complex.

They they will drop bombs and shoot off cruise missiles aimed at rocks and empty shacks, at millions of dollars per sortie...

They will throw the invaluable lives of American patriots in our military down the toilet, again to line the pockets of their cronies, contractors and oil companies.

But to implement military action to achieve a stated purpose and further the national security interests of the United States of America? Leave it to a Democrat to fuck it up so badly that our enemy seizes billions of dollars of our military equipment (including aircraft), and we're setting up to airlift our embassy personnel out of country so they don't get ass raped and beheaded in the streets.

Another fine job, Biden and Democrats. Where's Kamala? I am sure she could have fixed this problem!!!
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Aug 15 2021 09:05AM     link to this

But Kamala 's never been to Europe, remember?
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Aug 15 2021 09:18AM     link to this

I typically love the comments from the libs about how we are respected now that biden is in charge

waiting for the helicopter off the roof pics to surface...from his july 8th comments that this would not be happening

all intel personnel involved with this and giving advice...needs to be fired asap.


milley is a piece of work...a biden/party yes man





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Aug 15 2021 09:20AM     link to this

No, this is a complete Biden fuck up all the way, that will have consequences for decades.

If Biden looses re-election, this will be a key factor.
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Aug 15 2021 09:22AM     link to this

stop it
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Aug 15 2021 09:24AM     link to this

In just 7 short months, the Joebama Junta’s EPIC FAILURE in Afghanistan…how many of our soldiers died and were maimed for this?

It wasn't Billions spent, it was TRILLIONS.

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/city-shock-taliban-enter-kabul-us-starts-evacuating-embassy-china-mocks-biden-over-complete

Afghan President Ghani Flees Country As Taliban Enter Kabul Seeking “Peaceful Transfer Of Power”

Reports are the US flag is down at the Embassy, and up at the airport military base. No word yet on what the Taliban did with the LBGTQ flag.
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Aug 15 2021 09:28AM     link to this

woulda been interesting to where this was headed with trump...he had started the drawdown of military in the region...supposedly to be done by christmas of last year, but that was before he got booted

he was trying to do it in stages after the talibon met certain criteria

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Aug 15 2021 09:29AM     link to this

probably wiping their asses with all the flags


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Aug 15 2021 09:31AM     link to this

Damn, Afghanistan is falling fast.
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Aug 15 2021 09:34AM     link to this

By the end of the day I expect to see American hostages or worse dead American’s.

This is a fiasco.
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Aug 15 2021 09:36AM     link to this

Shitcan’s 8 bitches in 12 years LMFAO
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Aug 15 2021 09:43AM     link to this

Speak English, Alter.

Is that code for how many people you are serving in your gay gang bang today?
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Aug 15 2021 09:46AM     link to this

The only way to fix this if Biden reverses course right now while we have forces on the ground.
Highly unlikely, and this has made America look incompetent and unwilling to aide Lal lies when we need it.


The Afghan’s will never trust us again.
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Aug 15 2021 09:46AM     link to this

i don't think there will be american hostages

they don't want to give us a reason to go back for any length of time


NOW other countries are laughing at us


be interested in what countries like England thought of the pullout. OH, here it is


maybe think about getting all the helpers out...entended families and all. maybe any Afgan woman not wanting to be subjected to what's coming




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Aug 15 2021 09:49AM     link to this

we did have that same type of issue on the turkey border with trump...think that played out better than most thought it would

this on the other hand?
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Aug 15 2021 09:52AM     link to this

We now have 5000 troops in Afghanistan supporting our withdrawal of only 2500 Troops.

"Don't underestimate Joe's ability to fuck things up."

- Obama
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Aug 15 2021 11:18AM     link to this

))))))fcku!!(((((((
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Aug 15 2021 11:20AM     link to this

Gina your though on this
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Aug 15 2021 11:33AM     link to this

This is a follow thru on tRump's withdrawal deal, sure it could have been managed better.

If, we don't blow the Embassy up on leaving we are foolish. It will be the site of unthinkable atrocities, as well as a source of an endless parade of photo ops for the Taliban.

The days of walk quietly and carry a BIG stick are over. England, Germany, Russia have learned it and in the past 50 years we have been getting our noses bloodied. It's time for a new strategy here at home and abroad.
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Aug 15 2021 11:47AM     link to this

"Biden’s Betrayal of Afghans Will Live in Infamy"

This is from the Atlantic which is a left of center publication.

I admire Sherkans realistic objectivity in this moment .

But "it might hurt his reelection chances..."


Not sure that will be a problem
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Aug 15 2021 12:16PM     link to this

@alter ego i don't understand your comment.
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Aug 15 2021 12:30PM     link to this

The Afghan war was lost long ago. We backed the Mujadeen who morphed into the Taliban. But I agree a more orderly withdrawal could have been implemented. I am not sure we will see a bloodbath or a lot of Taliban photo ops. They need to rule the country and knew this day would come
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Aug 15 2021 12:36PM     link to this

But the Dems and Independents hated Trump SO much, they voted this idiot in....in his basement bunker for nearly the entire campaign, never really said what he would do, but he was a nice guy and a 'moderate', and not the asshole Trump was.

Any Dems and Independents out there now unhappy with their decision?????
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Aug 15 2021 12:50PM     link to this

And here I though Kamel was distancing herself from the blame. Nope!

"Harris says she had key role in Biden's Afghanistan withdrawal decision."
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/04/25/harris-afghanistan-biden-withdrawal-decision-484581


From Political4/26/21 —

Harris was asked about being the last person in the room regarding major decisions, something that Biden has said is important to him in his working relationship with the vice president. Harris confirmed that was the case regarding the move to pull U.S. troops out of Afghanistan by Sept. 11.

The decision to pull all U.S. troops out of Afghanistan was announced earlier this month. American troops have been in Afghanistan since October 2001, when the U.S. invaded in response to the 9/11 attacks the previous month.
( ie Biden broke the deal and pushed departure date to 9/11– for some reason….)

“This is a president who has an extraordinary amount of courage,” she said, regarding the decision. “He is someone, who I have seen over and over again, make decisions based on what he truly believes … is the right thing to do.”
Harris said that Biden “is acutely aware that it may not be politically popular, or advantageous for him personally; it’s really something to see.”

“I have seen him over and over again make decisions based exactly on what he believes is right,” she noted.

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Aug 15 2021 12:55PM     link to this

The dems have had plenty of practice, looks like a Antifa,BLM riot, but not as destructive :-))
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Aug 15 2021 01:03PM     link to this

The Kurds, Ukrain, and Taiwan should take notice there a new sheriff Joe in town.
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Aug 15 2021 01:03PM     link to this

This is "Deja Jimmy Carter" all over again.

At least Carter was a good human being and I am glad he will now be remembered as Americas second worst president ever.

This is the beginning boys. Wait until you see what they are planning for us at home.
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Aug 15 2021 01:39PM     link to this

^ no shit... and our Southern border is wide fucking open
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Aug 15 2021 02:28PM     link to this

Looks like you forgot that Trump first suggested an immediate and complete pullout of u.s. forces and hos military advisors said they would not do it.
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Aug 15 2021 02:41PM     link to this

I got barely got out of that bird before they pushed it off the carrier, dayum.............
$10 million worth of military hardware in the drink, lol
We should just drop a FOAB, and a few MOPs as the last American leaves Kabul
Great YuTube video!

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Aug 15 2021 04:02PM     link to this

they should level the building upon leaving and everyone...not like the afghans are going to use it


intel and military brass should be fired...how did you not know about the plan to lay down weapons and surrender...if they did, people and documents would have gotten out without all the FUSS



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Aug 15 2021 06:05PM     link to this

"Afghan interpreters who aided America are desperate for help.

I know some of these people from my own global work. If we leave them behind, they will be brutally tortured and executed.

They are begging to leave with us, but no one is listening to them.

If we don’t help Afghan interpreters escape with their lives, nobody will help America ever again."

--Frank Luntz
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Aug 15 2021 06:24PM     link to this

But on the bright side, Trumps not in office and could even be blamed for this.
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Aug 15 2021 09:32PM     link to this

Imagine what the rest of the so called US allies and US recruits think of us in that region.

Specifically, Taiwan, Vietnam, Singapore, Philippines and all of Middle East. What do you think they are thinking right now? They are saying out loud, this is the fall of America. Right here right now.

All these promises for over 20 years. 2 TRILLION dollars invested. 300000 Afghan civilians killed. The minute you say OK folks, time to go, you're on your own. Less than 1 month, the whole nation folds. This is after 20 YEARS ruling that nation and nation building.

Holy fuck. This is much worse than Vietnam. AT least those Vietnamese fought the VC for over 3 years after the Paris Accord from 73 to 76. They were able to fight and hold for 3 years after losing.

These Kabul gov't forces didn't last 1 month when Trump and Biden both thinks they got 1-2 years. Holy fuck almost every one of their officials had fled. And almost their entire military and police forces surrendered before fighting. 300k gov't forces surrendered to 70k Talibans. That make any sense to you? What does that tell you about the corruptions that went on for the past 20 years under AMERICAN RULE? Who got fat and rich? Why had 5 million of their Afghans became refugees in Pakistan? Another 1 million fled to Iran during these 20 years?

What the hell had the Americans been doing in Afghanistan for the past 20 years?

This is an epic fucking failure in everything.

And look at this, the US Embassy has 50-60 people working there as Americans. Yet Biden sent 5000 troops to evacuate the Embassy. That make any sense to you? Its not those Americans we are evacuating. Its those disguised NGOs, those 2000 so called peaceful NGO that we are evacuating. Are they really NGOs? All driving brand new cars, trucks with luxurious offices. While the rest of the Afghans starve to death. Watch the BBC interview. Its fucking ridiculous.

Americans only care about our own America's freedom and democracy. We don't care about anyone elses so long as our interest are protected. So don't ever talk about freedom and democracy to me. Its trash outside of America. Look at Iraq, Syria, Libra, Yemen, Somalia, the Kurds, and now Afghanistan. Its like we never learn. Trillions and trillions of our tax dollars spent and for what?



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Aug 15 2021 09:45PM     link to this

And fucking Obama, Trump and Biden all wants to PIVOT TO ASIA!!!

Is that a fucking joke? If we can't even hold Afghanistan, how the fuck are we going to hold China, Russia and North Korea? We basically starved North Korea for the past 50 years. They are still kicking and living and even developed nuclear weapons.

We even managed to lose Philippines to China. We fucking colonized the Philippines and used them as sex slaves and relaxation spots for our troops for the past century. We managed to lose that to the Chinese.

Indonesia basically said fuck you to us. So did Singapore and Malaysia. Vietnam is just playing both sides since they are also a communist state who will never forget about what we did in that nation. Every other ASEAN nations are on China's side. Pakistan, Nepal, Bangladesh are all on China's side. We are trying desperately to get India on our side but they never gave a fuck about us. They only care for themselves and don't forget they heavily rely on Russia.

Australia is shit. Its got like 20 million in population that no one gives a fuck about in Asia. South Korea lives in fear all the time from NK. Japans are just cowards that we use as a pawn. Taiwan is shit and a third of their population lean towards unification with China. Over 2 million Taiwanese actively lives and work in China.

This is fucking over for us in Asia. Its fucking laughable that we still think we are the shit over there.
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Aug 15 2021 09:46PM     link to this

I herd
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Aug 15 2021 09:47PM     link to this

PeteMalloy voted for Biden
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