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1972monarch
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It's the same people, Again!
Aug 16 2021 09:09AM more by 1972monarch
Tags: Orange County, Random (All tags)

1st it was WMD's, we must invade; Now it's the Afghan army is ready to defend their country. I understand the urge to blame Biden, Trump and even Bush. But bad intel leads to bad decisions. After this disaster we need to take a long hard look at the Military/Intel communities. 20 years of training and equipping the Afghan army only to have them cut and run is not Biden's fault. The Generals who devised the training have to go. And the Generals who convinced Biden that the Afghan army was ready need to go. Lets start with Mark Milley.
      
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sherkahn
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Aug 16 2021 09:51AM     link to this

It’s a shit show of bad options.

Damn if we stay, damned if we go.
stixie
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Aug 16 2021 12:06PM     link to this

It couldn't POSSIBLY have anything to do with the billions...possibly TRILLIONS of dollars in arms and equipment sales and defense contracts that 20 years of war generates.

Once again...America arms and trains a middle eastern country that in the end turns out to be our enemy. GEE....who could have EVER seen that coming?

One would think there would be a lesson to be learned there.
thedon60
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Aug 16 2021 12:17PM     link to this

^^^^
Nailed it
ColossusJones
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Aug 16 2021 12:18PM     link to this


Lesson learned. Stop voting for Republicans and Democrats who both have dirty hands in this.

Atticus_Finch
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Aug 16 2021 02:05PM     link to this

Besides the arm sales that war produces it's also the generals & military industrial complex.

That's what generals do - go to war and that's ALWAYS their first response.

Now we have a cluster fuck on our hands and are back to where we fucking started 20 years ago only now biden's senile, pelosi looks like a prune left out in the Mojave sun too long and mcconnel looks like he took a shot from a blaster up his ass.

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Aug 16 2021 02:17PM     link to this

so all the Anti-War people, like myself, were right all along?? what a shock. I remember going to protests and what you guys are saying now, were on signs during the march......??
NineRider
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Aug 16 2021 03:45PM     link to this

Ron Paul was right...
stixie
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Aug 16 2021 04:29PM     link to this

A good thing to do would be to quit electing dumb asses.
W, tRump, and Biden are scraping the bottom of the barrel.
Obama was smart....but too much of a pussy to actually get shit done.

And people wonder why shit is all fucked up.
Mad4boobs
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Aug 16 2021 04:38PM     link to this

its really got nothing to do with the people or even the parties, its the system that is corrupt.
a310guy
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Aug 16 2021 07:19PM     link to this

Why was USA there for?
9/11?
Bin Laden?
The natural resources?
other reasons?
sherkahn
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Aug 16 2021 08:13PM     link to this

Initially as a response to 9/11.
Then it was to eliminate future threats and the it was to stabilize the region.

What was unspoken is Kabul and the Afghan bases gave great locations to spy and conduct spy missions into China, Russia and other local threats near the ’Middle East.

We gave up that staging and recovery area.
Now instead of well trained and capable armed forces who are able to hold their own in the region, we are going to get unprepared innocents to suffer for Biden’s arrogance.
GoBallsDeep
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Aug 16 2021 09:12PM     link to this

Should've had Faucci contract with Wuhan
To invent a virus that only kills
Ugly ass sand bitches wearing funny hats
There are some cultures that are just way past their sell-by date
jdjr19699
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Aug 16 2021 10:45PM     link to this

Accept it guys. Biden fucked up. This one is on Biden the fool.
stixie
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Aug 16 2021 11:14PM     link to this

"There are some cultures that are just way past their sell-by date "
The first honestly true statement I've ever seen from that guy

They should have erased and modernized that "civilization" 20 years ago.
Contrary to liberal beliefs ALL cultures do NOT have intrinsic value.
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Aug 17 2021 07:32AM     link to this

At first, I thought Biden is a complete idiot. But now I think that he did the right thing. We've spent a trillion dollars over in those sand pits for nothing. Vietnam was a no-win war and Afghanistan is no different.





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Aug 17 2021 08:22AM     link to this

Pak - I'm really not sure how you think we are all Anti-War. A large portion of our economy relies on us being arms suppliers. Not only to ourselves, but to other countries. Israel is one of our best customers at 4 trillion a year. ?? the people who are truly Anti-War are the people sent off to die and people who don't want death in general.

I have always disagreed with the concept of WWII being a necessary war. The US didn't get involved till the Germans started interfering in US special interests, as usual. Pearl Harbor was just the excuse we needed to get involved. Hell, there were even Nazi sympathizers in the US government.

it was unjust going into Afghanistan to hunt a faction of radicals and make invade a country for a few thousand of them. A lot of us in the Anti-War movement that invading would make more radicals, which it did. We were killing innocents.
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Aug 17 2021 10:02AM     link to this

"The first honestly true statement I've ever seen from that guy"

Still waiting for your first
Wonder if we'll ever see one afore I take the dirt nap

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Aug 17 2021 10:59AM     link to this

Why was USA there for?
9/11?
Bin Laden?
The natural resources?
other reasons?

The biggest reason it's strategic locality - just east of Iran, a nuclear power even it no one wants to admit it, and China.

BUT, even Alexander the Great realized that Afghanistan was a no win scenario when he pulled out.
So someone 3,000 years ago knew more then any of the generals in the 20th & 21st century.

Atticus Finch
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