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We don't have to worry about it.
Biden's president now, everything will be fine.
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Mutations in the COVID virus, which leads to different strains, including strains that are more successful against vaccination, is based on genetic mutations.
The driving force behind genetic mutations is how big the virus pool is.
So, more people who have the virus and get sick by the virus, the more virus that exists, the more mutations that can occur.
Vaccination reduces significant the amount of virus that exists and thus reduces the ability of the virus to mutate.
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I understand the fewer the infected the less possible chances for mutated strains.
Are there any studies maybe for flu viruses that showed a mutation different for a patients vaccinated vs non vaccinated? Since they are both Corona viruses. Although covid 19 is a man-made mutation made in a lab.
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I blame the bats
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I blame the people who made a public health crisis into a stance on "freedom". sad that people couldnt tell the difference.
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FDA approval today 16 thru
on the FIZER one
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"FDA approval today 16 thru
on the FIZER one"
And this only provides more ammo for the woke corps to force it on everyone.
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I blame China
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Off topic, but China increased their child limits to 3. Must be losing more than they're admitting.
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The Delta variation had already developed before even the first person was vaccinated.
So in that case, no - the vaccs is not a driving force of mutations/variations.
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Delta variant found May 2021. How sure of that are you?
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Wik could be wrong though
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October or December depending on the site info
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Virus mutates. Maybe Captain Trips is right around the corner? What if we decided that the cost benefit of closing down the economy is more destructive to western civilization than a few hundred thousand graves?
The questions I want answered are:
Did Covid 19 originate in a Wuhan Virology Lab?
Was it intentionally or accidentally released?
Who is making money off the vaccine?
When will enough people call bullshit on the lockdown?
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From the CDC:
“ Variants are expected. The best way to slow the emergence of new variants is to reduce the spread of infection by taking measures to protect yourself including getting a COVID-19 vaccine when available.”
From the Kaiser Family Foundation:
The data reported from these states indicate that breakthrough cases, hospitalizations, and deaths are extremely rare events among those who are fully vaccinated against COVID-19 (see Figure 1). The rate of breakthrough cases reported among those fully vaccinated is below 1% in all reporting states, ranging from 0.01% in Connecticut to 0.54% in Arkansas.
The hospitalization rate among fully vaccinated people with COVID-19 ranged from effectively zero (0.00%) in California, Delaware, D.C., Indiana, New Jersey, New Mexico, Vermont, and Virginia to 0.06% in Arkansas. (Note: Hospitalization may or may not have been due to COVID-19.)
The rates of death among fully vaccinated people with COVID-19 were even lower, effectively zero (0.00%) in all but two reporting states, Arkansas and Michigan where they were 0.01%. (Note: Deaths may or may not have been due to COVID-19.)
To summarize, the rate of hospitalizations and deaths in vaccinated people is essentially ZERO.
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China had no new cases I believe yesterday. Pretty amazing biut of course draconian measures made this possible.
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I have a real problem with the "stated" number of covid deaths. Not that we're ever going to get real numbers. There have been multiple doctors say they were encouraged to put cause of death as covid. But it was more of a case of dying and having covid at the same time. No one dies of diabetes anymore, it's covid that killed them. That's the case with how many deadly conditions?
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delta variant, a SARS-CoV-2 mutation that originally surfaced in India. The first Delta case was identified in December 2020, and the strain spread rapidly, soon becoming the dominant strain of the virus in both India and then Great Britain.
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no-one in India, let alone most of the world had been vaxxed in dec 2020.
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This is one of those false claims that drives me crazy and I am a conservative.
Roughly 2m people die each year. Last year we had approximately 2.5m deaths. The extra 500k were due to COVID.
It may have been Diabetes & COVID
Heart Disease & COVID
Cancer & COVID
It doesn't matter. There are 500k fewer Americans around due to COVID.
I have seen many death certificates over the last year. COVID is often one of the factors, but they are still listing the other conditions.
This all about stats not spin!
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"There have been multiple doctors say they were encouraged to put cause of death as covid."
I asked a few doctors that I know about this assertion before. I told me that they would lose their license to practice medicine if they misreported the cause of death.
Beyond everyone's health and safety, we should be working together (by everyone getting vaccinated) to neutralize Covid so that we can get back to normal and so that it doesn't affect our economy.
It really is disappointing that life and death matters continue to be politicized. Vaccinations are now back up over 1 million doses administered per day. It took a near collapse of the healthcare systems of many states for people to finally wake up and do the right thing.
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@OP - mutations happen for every life form, but they are rare. Most mutations are not positive for the life form, so it takes a lot of mutations to have just one be beneficial. You can think of it in terms of how many viruses are reproducing over any moment in time. The more viruses, then the more mutations, and the more likely that a "beneficial" (for the virus) mutation occurs.
So,...vaccinated populations will have less viruses per person than unvaccinated. So if you have a country like India, 1bn people and (at that time) a low vaccination rate, the virus gets lots of chances to "roll the dice" and create a good mutation, maybe one called "Delta". High vaccination countries, like ours, the UK, and esp Israel, will have less viruses, and shorter infection periods, so far fewer chances for the virus to mutate.
That said, a mutation can happen anywhere -- they happen all the time. So, can it happen in a vaccinated person? Yes, it is just a numbers game. And but,... the vaxxed person will have a stronger immune response and is more likely to be able to kill all the mutated viruses (if any) before they spread, that an unvaxxed person would.
The "viral load" (how many viruses are in a given infected person) goes up with the severity of infection. Vaxxed people have less severe infections.
COVID's mutation rate is quite slow, though, at least as far as viruses go. The HIV virus undergoes hundreds of mutations in any given person, and each mutation is largely beneficial, overwhelming the immune system through sheer diversity. That's one reason why there is no HIV vaccine.
PM me if you want more details.
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Have Fun
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"This is one of those false claims that drives me crazy and I am a conservative."
I'm a conservative too, but that has no bearing on what I believe is skewed or not. There was actually over 3 million deaths in the US in 2020 according to https://www.advisory.com/daily-briefing/2021/04/01/coronavirus
Maybe this is real, maybe it's not. My point is not the actual number. If there was even one case of false reporting, that's the problem. Manipulation of people's fear is no way to get an outcome.
Being I'm not in the medical field, I don't see death certificates on the daily. But the media is using "stats" as spin.
These are all just my thoughts, not backed up by any stats, links or quotes from any medical journal or cdc website.
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" Whats the likelihood that a mutant strain is created by one or all of these "break through" infections from the vaccinated... "
Very Likely.
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AfMadness,
Interesting.
Cant wait for the comments on that.
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I think it is very likely that the virus was brought here via the ANT(if)A (Chinese) brand sneakers worn in the woke NBA by BLM supporters like LeBrun James and Clay Thomspon
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Fauci comitted perjury before Congress which carries a 5 year sentence for each. Actually there are a lot of others. But ! Because it is a practice ? They get off scott free.
Like Roger Stone said, " There two tiers of justus "
Give the hospitals time. Perhaps they are just getting started.
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OMG - the Janci Lindsey "expert" is part of a prestigious research institution...of one. Fucking hilarious. (see link below)
Her degree is not in virology, nor in epidemiology, nor is she recognized as an expert in either.
She can say whatever the fuck she wants, of course. But she doesn't know WTF she is talking about.
She has been fact checked (see link below) "Scientist makes inaccurate claims on Covid-19 vaccine safety"
Further, even the most simple literature search on her reveals almost no publications, save for several that are sponsored by the tobacco lobby or tobacco companies where she attempts to poke holes in the FDA rulings against e-cigs. Link below to Google Scholar as an example.
SMH at stupid people posting stupid shit.
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Makes about as much sense as believing afp fact checkers. Aren't they a media group?
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https://factcheck.afp.com/fact-checking-afp
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For the record the Influenza virus are part of the family Orthomyxoviridae and unrelated to Corona viruses which are part of their own distinct family Coronaviridae.
From a laymen's point of view symptoms by way of how to human body reacts to diseases can make them seem similar. For example "cold" isn't a specific virus, it is a collection of symptoms that by very different species and families of viruses for example Rhinovirus.
If you really want to be concerned (or not) then read up on Endogenous Retroviruses.
Also I must remind you politically minded folk that Anti-vaxx was (and actually still is...) a very liberal extremist topic. What you say? Pro-choice, Anti-gun and what not!?! Yes. I find it weird that a fat "patriot" with playing partisan has something in common with a willowy vegan floating around looking for those special healing crystals.
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How about 5 trucks full of dead Americans, those of you eager to see covid bodies.
You sure seem oblivious to please for nurses and doctors who treat them every day and shake their heads as more deniers get sick.
Dumb asses.
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^^^^
Oh you mean back in Nov 2020 when they were still basically saying stay home till you're almost dead? Then come to the ER so we can hook you up to a ventilator?
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OMG, OP is troll. Sorry I took the bait.
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Way to fuck shit up Gloom Guy
Dilbert was hilarious today:
Imagine you're listening to a CNN broadcast............
"The epsilon variant virus has become sentient and is calling for humans to surrender"
"Its terms are that we must build it a robot body the size of Greenland so it can rule Earth"
"Experts say face masks will stop it."
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Hahaha, not trolling anyone.
I just don't take the shit people are peddling as the truth.
If by your statement mutations can happen to the vaccinated, but it's just a numbers game. Then it is possible a mutant strain can not be controlled by the vaccine that has an efficacy of "95 percent". Cough, cough bullshit
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"If by your statement mutations can happen to the vaccinated, but it's just a numbers game. Then it is possible a mutant strain can not be controlled by the vaccine that has an efficacy of "95 percent". Cough, cough bullshit"
@PSHornycouple
Do you mind explaining what you meant by this statement?
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@wildlyamusing1
Sorry was meant for @16th, since I gather, I'm the OP and now I'm a troll?
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I never accused you of being a troll. I just don't understand the point of your statement.
If you get vaccinated, there is almost a ZERO chance you're going to die or get seriously ill from Covid-19. That's really all you need to know.
I don't understand why people are convoluting the discussion with mutation bullshit.
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@wildlyamusing1
I know you did not call me a troll. I said it was meant for @16thpres, he called me a troll.
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@wildlyamusing1
I'll also have an almost zero chance of dying without taking the vaccine.
Mutation, maybe thats the wrong word to use. Is strain more appropriate? Does a vaccinated person create a more resistant strain? That was the point of all this.
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...and yet
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This blog
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Is full
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Of expert...trolls. Die blog die
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