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PSHorneycouple
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The CDC and The CDC Foundation
Sep 30 2021 02:03PM more by PSHorneycouple
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One is a government agency and the other accepts private donations from who ever.

Does anyone else find this troubling or ripe for corruption? I tend to find a bit of truth in a lot of conspiracies. This just seems too suspicious in today's climate. With the cdc's hand in a bit of everything now. Maybe it's always been this way and I just woke up?

Everyone will have an opinion, I'm sure. But how can a government agency have a private sector without one influencing the other? Especially since corporations are donating millions.


The link is from CDC site about their connection.


Or maybe I'm just a conspiracy nut. That term is thrown around a lot when someone thinks differently.
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http://www.cdcfoundation.org/public-private-partnership-guidelines
      
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PSHorneycouple
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Sep 30 2021 02:15PM     link to this

Thought I should include a link to the CDC foundation donors. All the big drug companies donate. How charitable of them
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Night-Rider
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Sep 30 2021 02:16PM     link to this

"That term is thrown around a lot when someone thinks differently."

That's what conspiracy theorists say, anyway...
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Sep 30 2021 02:18PM     link to this

Sure, you don't like the job the CDC has done. Perhaps a bit of that is deserved, and now you think they are that way because they are corrupt?
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Sep 30 2021 02:19PM     link to this

I recommend reading this guy's criticism of the CDC.
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PSHorneycouple
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Sep 30 2021 02:23PM     link to this

@NR

And you wouldn't give it a second thought? Do you take everything at face value as the whole truth?

I did say I believe there's a bit of truth in a lot of conspiracies.
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Sep 30 2021 02:26PM     link to this

My point is not to criticize the cdc, but question the legitimacy of them being separate. Not having one influence the other.
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Sep 30 2021 05:05PM     link to this

Some background. After the 1992 elections, the democratic congress formed the CDC foundation. The incoming president in 93 was, none other than Clinton.
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Sep 30 2021 08:52PM     link to this

I mean I would be worried about corruption in the CDC if there was legitimate reporting on it or if there were sources I trust discussing it.



Gottlieb is someone who knows what he's talking about based on my experience hearing him talk about the few things I know about. His criticism of the CDC (from source I linked above):

"In the book, you’re very critical of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. You point out that in the early days of the pandemic, the agency botched the development of the first SARS-CoV-2 test. They failed to come up with a plan for widespread testing and actually impeded the development of tests by outside commercial labs. You also criticized the CDC for some of its public health guidelines, like establishing the six-foot social distancing requirement without evidence that would help. So I guess the question is, can the CDC be fixed and should it be fixed? Meaning should we be relying on the CDC in future pandemics or should the responsibilities for surveillance and response go somewhere else? "

"I think it can be fixed and I think it has to be fixed. I don’t think that when we engage in pandemic planning going forward, and we come together and have a commission and try to reach a bipartisan consensus on what the new framework is going to look like, that we should be creating a new agency. I think we need to vet these kinds of capabilities within CDC, but it’s a reimagined CDC. It’s a CDC that has an operational focus, has a national security mindset that isn’t so retrospective, that’s comfortable surfacing real time information to inform active policy decision making."
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Sep 30 2021 09:21PM     link to this

You guys are funny, lol

You don't need corruption, graft or malicious evil
This is way worse than any of that
It's called "bureaucracy"
It's why governments fail to perform their stated mission
Some call it the swamp
The press used to call it "inside the beltway"

Nameless, faceless, bureaucrats hired by kingdom building political appointees
Beholden to nobody and don't give a shit about the taxpayer
Idiots calling for more government programs get more bureaucrats
Huge non-functioning organizations that can't make a Covid test and impede others from the same
In the private market, they would go bankrupt
In the government world, they just get bigger and bigger and worse at their job

This is the idiocy of a $3.5 trillion budget bill
Everybody knows it's just garbage and will just create more inept bureaucracy
There's something like 32 different Federal agencies providing welfare
All with different rules/regs and bullshit
What do we get?
More homeless, more hungry and more bureaucrats
Fucking stupid
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