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Oct 4 2021 02:10PM more by Waterdisport22
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"If you were vaccinated you won't get Covid" - Biden, on multiple occasions.

"If you get vaccinated you won't wind up in the hospital" - CDC Director Rochelle, Fauci, many others.

"You must be vaccinated because its the only way to end this pandemic" - Many.

All lies.


The US Government has been analyzing this data through Project Salus.

They know that:

1. 71% of the Covid-19 cases occurred in these fully-vaccinated people and roughly 80% of the population >65 is vaccinated. In other words they know the vaccines do not stop you from getting Covid.

2. Both of the mRNA vaccines lose effectiveness between 4-6 months post-injection; the failure rate doubles between 5-6 months as opposed to 3-4 months.

3. Age is NOT why the vaccines lose effectiveness. It is simply that they stop working.

4. While Moderna vaccines work slightly better than the Pfizer ones, the key word here is slightly. Both degrade materially and the difference in the 5-6 month time frame is not statistically significant. Yes, it appears to be slightly better but not statistically so. In other words the damn things do not work to provide durable protection -- period.

5. The nuclear lie: As of August 7th 60% of hospitalizations were among fully-vaccinated individuals. You have heard repeatedly that this is now a "disease of the un vaccinated." That is a damned, knowing lie and they knew it all the way back to the first of August.

6. In the 5-6 month time frame the hospitalization protection also is wildly ineffective; the rate per 100,000 approximately doubles between the 3-4 month and 5-6 month time periods.

7. Prior infection is highly protective but post six months vaccination has become much less-so. Note that "prior infection" now goes back 18 months to the first wave. Do we still need to have a conversation about "natural immunity"? No: THE US GOVERNMENT KNOWS DAMNED WELL AND HAS PROVED THAT INFECTION PROTECTS BETTER THAN THEIR FRAUDULENT JABS.


THIS IS FRAUD WRIT LARGE AND KNOWING, INTENTIONAL FRAUD AT THAT UP AND DOWN THE LINE FROM BIDEN TO FAUCI TO THE CDC AND THE NIH AND FDA AND EXTENDS TO EVERY SINGLE ******* IN THE MEDIA CLAIMING THIS IS A PANDEMIC OF THE "UNVACCINATED"; THEY ARE ALL -- EVERY ONE OF THEM -- LYING THROUGH THEIR TEETH AND MUST PAY FOR WHAT THEY'VE DONE.
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Oct 4 2021 02:17PM     link to this

A lot of this is cherry picked data to misinform and scare people.

Vaccines still protect extremely well against severe disease and hospitalizations, even with waning immunity.

The effectiveness is still 80% for seniors as opposed to 95%.

That means the chances of getting a severe disease or hospitalization is 80% reduced if you are vaccinated compared to the same person if unvaccinated.

Waning immunity effects infections substantially more than severe disease and hospitalizations.


Vaccines rock!
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Oct 4 2021 02:19PM     link to this

But they don't rock quite as much as people were told and they wanted them to be.
Night-Rider
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Oct 4 2021 02:19PM     link to this

Fauci & experts didn't lie.

1. This is all new, and information is changing all the time.

2. Perhaps the experts should have communicated the substantial uncertainties with the information they gave out.
Night-Rider
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Oct 4 2021 02:19PM     link to this

"But they don't rock quite as much as people were told and they wanted them to be."

The story remains unfinished right now.
Night-Rider
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Oct 4 2021 02:24PM     link to this

Vaccines can be far from perfect and still put a knife into an epidemic. Look at the vaccine for pertussis for instance. It doesn't prevent infection, and you also need boosters (albeit not as frequently).
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Oct 4 2021 02:25PM     link to this

“ My Administration has initiated the single greatest mobilization in U.S. history — pioneering, developing, and manufacturing therapies and vaccines in record time.”
Waterdisport22
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Oct 4 2021 02:25PM     link to this

Why are YOU pushing so hard NR....

FACTS are coming out....and your side LIED.
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Oct 4 2021 02:26PM     link to this

Guess who said that?
Night-Rider
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Oct 4 2021 02:27PM     link to this

"FACTS are coming out....and your side LIED."

Nope.
Waterdisport22
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Oct 4 2021 02:29PM     link to this

Sherkan...Trump did...and what he said was true getting the so called vaccine done.


But we nor he knew what was in it.....FFS.....

Since we are cherry picking....how about this one.....


“I will say that I would not trust Donald Trump” on the reliability of a vaccine, Harris said.
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Oct 4 2021 02:30PM     link to this

Waterdisport22,

Go away.

Respectfully,

Me
Night-Rider
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Oct 4 2021 02:30PM     link to this

^I think the problem is we feed the beast by responding.
Waterdisport22
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Oct 4 2021 02:31PM     link to this

What is the color in the sky in your world NR...

I bet you believe that Fauci was NOT involved in Gain of Function Research....


Which started this whole mess......Emails are out......just need DOJ to do their job.


Ohhhh wait its Bidens....lmao...ok....left gets free pass once again.
Waterdisport22
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Oct 4 2021 02:32PM     link to this

NR....

You still can NOT explain the graph of Israel which has the HIGHEST vax rates of any country....

And is NOW telling people they need a 4th....yes.....4th jab.
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Oct 4 2021 02:38PM     link to this

Are you saying a government official lied?

Is that possible?
Waterdisport22
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Oct 4 2021 02:40PM     link to this

By telling people...."misinformation".....and quoting someone from xyz...does not cut it anymore.


Facts are now out.


PS Not going away...but thank you for the suggestion....please submit in the "Suggestion Box" where it will never be read.


Thank you
Night-Rider
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Oct 4 2021 02:40PM     link to this

^Are you familiar with the research the NIH funded. I suggest you read some of it yourself,.

I'll link you to one paper. Very interesting stuff. No "frankenstein-like" viruses that would destroy the world being created here!

It's important to be able to understand what sequences of the coronavirus are potentially dangerous to humans, so when we find samples in caves, for example, we can estimate the danger based on knowing the sequences.

Granted, not all of what the Wuhan Institute of Virology did is known.

NR



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Oct 4 2021 02:57PM     link to this

I don't do jew
Night-Rider
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Oct 4 2021 03:01PM     link to this

"You still can NOT explain the graph of Israel which has the HIGHEST vax rates of any country...."

Sure I can give an alternate hypothesis.

The Delta variant made its way through India first before Israel, until it burned out, and new cases finally dropped. That's usually what happens during these waves. It is very possible the drop had nothing to do with Ivermectin, particularly since Ivermectin hasn't shown itself to be so effective in large RCTs unless you want to talk about studies that get retracted due to falsifying data.

Why was Israel's 4th, Delta wave such an outlier, even with vaccination?
Contributing factors:
—Vaccine waning at the time Delta hit.
—Delta's hyper-contagiousness
— ~37% of total population unvaccinated (it's a myth that Israel is highly vaccinated -- they were the first to vaccinate a substantial portion of the population, sure, but 63% vaccination isn't great nowadays compared to say Portugal at >80%)

Nonetheless, vaccination in Israel held up pretty well against serious cases and death. (See link).

I think the Delta wave was horribly destructive in India, with estimates of 2.5 million dying in India during Delta. (see source below).

Imagine how many of those lives could have been saved with the vaccine.

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While both Fauci and Collins have previously admitted there’s no way of knowing whether researchers in Wuhan carried out undisclosed gain-of-function research, Fauci insisted during a House Appropriations subcommittee hearing last week that such work “categorically was not done.”


Huh.....no work was done....but hey trust me even though I do NOT know. SMFH


“There’s a lot of evidence that he [Fauci] has a great deal of conflict of interest and that if it turns out this virus came from the Wuhan lab — which it looks like it did — that there’s a great deal of culpability and that he was a big supporter of the funding,” Paul said. “But he also was a big supporter, to this day, of saying, ‘We can trust the Chinese on this. We can trust the Chinese scientists,’ and I think that’s quite naïve and really should preclude him from the position that he’s in.”


Blood is on his hands......
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Oct 4 2021 03:08PM     link to this

@NR

Hypothesis....myths....."Come On Man...."

The Chart does NOT lie. The jab is a therapeutic at best and NOT a vaccine.

If the VACCINE held up well...then WHY the need for the 4th jab.


Sorry pal....your thought process is delusional...



Does NOT protect one from getting it any better and not getting it.

However not getting it allows your natural immunity to fight it better.
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Oct 4 2021 03:09PM     link to this

Heyy Barbie....your the one on the blog....and I got you here...


Soooo who is the dumb one.....just saying.



BTW....when in a debate you attack the messenger....

You lost the debate.
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Oct 4 2021 03:19PM     link to this

^^^^^^^^^

You might want to go back to your regularly scheduled program.....lol
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Oct 4 2021 03:25PM     link to this

^^^^^^^^^

Sorry Barbie this program I started....you can start your own if ya choose to.

Come on I have faith in you and your abilities.

Surely there is something of interests of yours....

I mean this is a free market......errrrrr do not say that too loud though.....


Things are a changin....
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Oct 4 2021 03:50PM     link to this

Here is an article from the CDC that debunks much of what is said on this blog.

Accounting for the Delta variant, getting vaccinated reduces the risk of infection 5X, hospitalization greater than 10X and death greater than 10X:

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7037e1.htm


Waterdisport22
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Oct 4 2021 04:28PM     link to this

Right....from the same group who said the vax is safe.

15k in Vaers are dead.....and whistle blower in court said the number is actually around 50k.

B/c cdc is only counting deaths from 2 weeks + after the vax was given.

The other numbers are from 2 weeks and less.



Fauci has been WRONG on everything.....mask no mask....list goes on.


And we are to believe HIM......SMFH
Waterdisport22
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Oct 4 2021 04:30PM     link to this

ohhh look at my other blog....


Fauci today said we should cancel X-Mas....


I mean really.....this guy is sick and demented.
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Oct 4 2021 04:38PM     link to this

Jesus night phaggot do you ever get the liberal cock out of your mouth and fucking think for yourself? Its pathetic
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Trump knew exactly what was in it. Do you think an egomaniac who has his brand everywhere would not know what the greatest achievement or failure of his presidency would have? What he eventually had injected into himself?

Dumbass.
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Oct 4 2021 09:32PM     link to this

Why us everyone so grouchy?

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Oct 4 2021 11:36PM     link to this

The 80% effectiveness, is that 80% of you will not die from the mRNA shot.

But trusted and believed in those promoting it as a Vaccine. Not knowing they were playing Russian Roulette.

Although there is a report out from the DoD / A I computers tied to Medicare saying 60% 65+ have been Hospitalized. Hmm... Seems to me there should be more Seniors in the Hospital than the Main Stream Media is saying.
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Oct 4 2021 11:42PM     link to this

How many of you realize that this mRNA shot was developed in 2012 or 2014 ? And has been sitting on the self waiting for it to be sprung on the unsuspecting populous ? Dr. Robert Malone I believe.
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nuts
Night-Rider
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Oct 5 2021 12:06AM     link to this

Seriously, with the attitude some of you have, we'd have lost WW2.

We're at war with a virus. Get with it.
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Oct 5 2021 12:34AM     link to this

Maybe we should all get together in person and have a serious discussion over these issues.

That would be interesting.

I'd buy drinks...
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